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Topic: Do people with harder charts have it better?
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andrea22 Knowflake Posts: 73 From: zagreb Registered: Mar 2020
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posted June 08, 2021 02:28 AM
Sorry for grammar. Is it true that people with more bad aspects then trines,sextiles have more dynamic,richer lifes,experiences,compared to people who have more good aspects?I ask because in synastries is often said couples with most of trines gets lazy,took eachother for granted,they HAVE TO take action in order to make it work,while harder aspects PUSH people automatically to fight.. Isn't it same for natals? People who have more easy aspects are boring and lead less interesting lifes then people with hard aspects? Less charsima? Yes,i understand all people have mix of good/bad,but i talk of so many people who DO have most of trines VS people with most of harsher aspects. What is your opinion? I think the more red chart that person will be more interesting,fun as their life is more struggle so they lead richer lives? Am i right? Do you know someone with most blue charts that are very dynamics and charismatics as well?
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SoulOfABird Knowflake Posts: 1171 From: California Registered: Sep 2017
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posted June 08, 2021 03:09 AM
I dont know.. I mean I feel like I have a lot going on internally and my chart is mostly blue. I have a 12th house stellium so that's not the best thing in a chart, but as far as aspects I only have 2 squares and one opposition and I feel like I cant ever be mentally healthy and that's just my fate. But if you knew me you probably wouldn't guess itIP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 5105 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted June 08, 2021 03:18 AM
This is actually an interesting question that I need to think about! Maybe to the outside observer a person with a hard chart seems very exciting and interesting but to the person itself, it’s just a struggle because all that person wants is to be “normal”. IP: Logged |
ilunatique Knowflake Posts: 727 From: neptune Registered: Jun 2014
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posted June 08, 2021 06:25 AM
in my personal case, yesi have a fixed cross, my chart is mostly a big square with oppositions. even my psychologist told me: "you have so many experiences in life, they shaped you in such a complex way (...)" my sun and moon are only "positively" aspected. but note that my sun is conjunct chiron and pluto. main experiences, in some order: divorce/abandonment, moving places all my life, depressed mother, unstable home, neglect, emotional abuse, seeing my mother lose it everyday and one time seeing she was cutting her neck and locking herself in the bathroom, losing all money and home at 9 years old, abandoned at my aunt where i was sexually abused and ignored until dissociation, moving at 12 at my grandparents in a small apartment with no space and privacy until 18 with my mother turning suicidal and extremely depressed, never sure about the future, abusive relationships, no friends since i was always moving places and i was always the new and weird one, almost became a hooker for a big mafia druglord, now during pandemic mom was allowed to live with my aunt but she beat her and lost her place and will to live again. then the aunt (that ****** me up too in my childhood) called all my family and said my mother is crazy and that she jumped first... my mom is the black sheep and could not do anything i am 21 and my life is much better now, i kind of turned it around with the help of my father that realized he had a daughter after all of it and stopped hating me and my mother for leaving him. thanks to him i could afford a rent at 18 and now im on my own working/studying and in a healthy relationship.
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Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3594 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted June 08, 2021 06:40 AM
i have a mix of both with slightly more easy aspects (i think haven't counted) and my life has been harder than a lot of people pick up on based on chart (though this only seems to be with western astrology, vedic astrologers pick it up well) i've experienced a lot of weird **** though both in the spiritual esoteric sense and just life in general lot of abuse (every kind, for most of my life) and drug addiction and the life that goes with that, seen my fair share of **** too + health issues that have been extremely bad at points etc and so on not worth getting into really i think the easy aspects in my chart helped me weather it to some degree though, like i'm extremely grateful to have that grand trine with moon-mercury-uranus because it's been pretty integral to dealing with **** that i think i otherwise would've drowned in @SoulofaBird thought you had a lot of conjunctions, those count as hard aspects 🤔 am i remembering wrong? IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3594 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted June 08, 2021 06:45 AM
@ilunatiquesorry you went through all that, good that you're doing better now though IP: Logged |
ilunatique Knowflake Posts: 727 From: neptune Registered: Jun 2014
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posted June 08, 2021 07:19 AM
@Dumuzithank you for the kind words. i see that we share a similar aspect: moon close to north node around 7th house
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 74081 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 08, 2021 08:44 AM
I have one of the best charts I have ever seen but was molested by my mother who was a therapist so go figure ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 4407 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 08, 2021 10:05 AM
My goodness, Ami. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4407 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 08, 2021 10:15 AM
From what i have seen, not everyone is able to handle a hard chart well. But those who do typically achieve high success because these squares or opposition in their chart give them a fighting spirit. Love her or hate her (i don't care for her), Nancy Pelosi is an example of such a person, with a very hard chart that has Pluto, Saturn, Venus and Uranus square/opposing her scorpio moon. These aspects are not very tight, but they are there nonetheless. She happens to have Pluto trine her sun, so she is very Plutonian. By contrast, I know one of the easiest chart you can think of, practically nothing but trines, it shows lots of support. The native has severe autism that puts his mental and emotional levels at that of a toddler and he depends entirely on people to provide everything for him, including feeding him and wiping his butts. He gets all that support and doesn't have to do much of anything but be in his own child like state.
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Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3594 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted June 08, 2021 12:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by ilunatique: @Dumuzithank you for the kind words. i see that we share a similar aspect: moon close to north node around 7th house
you're welcome, that aspect can make relationships emotionally intense and be associated with emotional issues for the individual themselves @Ami sorry to hear that, i think it's hard to gauge events like that from just a chart, easier to tell how we may react to those things IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14496 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 08, 2021 12:08 PM
Well my big three are part of a T-square with Neptune conjunct my AC from the 12th. I have Sun opposite Moon forming a T-square with Neptune on my AC.I feel I have had an interesting exciting full life, I take chances and keep things interesting. I do live my life to the fullest. My motto is Life is an adventure and the world is your playground. AC in Saggy trine Venus conjunct Mars in Leo. I don't know how my life seems to others as I keep a lot about my life to myself since my chart ruler Jupiter conjuncts Uranus falls in the 12th but I was born in the Dominican Republic then at age 10 moved to Miami Fl and in my mid 20s to Colorado, three different worlds/lives, each with their stories. You must be willing to fall to learn how to fly. I also have saturn conjunct pluto, I am definitely a fighter. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14496 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 08, 2021 12:56 PM
Sag rising with jupiter conjunct uranus makes me open to adventure and changeAC trine venus conjunct mars makes it so I pursue what I want and go for it Saturn conjunct Pluto gives me resilience and stamina and with my saggy rising optimism allows me to get back up when I fall. My T-square involving my big 3 gives me drive but is also about overcoming challenges and mastering obstacles. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14496 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 08, 2021 01:01 PM
I want to add, I don't think experiencing trauma itself makes your life interesting, IMO is how you cope with the trauma and deal with the pain that makes you interesting and unique. Those moments were you get back up are the most empowering moments of your life. Can you create something beautiful from that hardship, pain or trauma?IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3594 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted June 08, 2021 01:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: I want to add, I don't think experiencing trauma itself makes your life interesting, IMO is how you cope with the trauma and deal with the pain that makes you interesting and unique. Those moments were you get back up are the most empowering moments of your life. Can you create something beautiful from that hardship, pain or trauma?
yeah i was thinking that too seemed like traumatic **** was being romanticized, but i didn't feel like adding it, glad you did 😁 IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 74081 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 08, 2021 01:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: My goodness, Ami.
This was how I found God though, B, so it was a small thing! ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14496 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 08, 2021 01:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: yeah i was thinking that too seemed like traumatic **** was being romanticized, but i didn't feel like adding it, glad you did 😁
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14496 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 08, 2021 01:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: This was how I found God though, B, so it was a small thing!
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