posted June 24, 2021 06:17 PM            

You have many hypotheses about Sags/Leos.

I know that you are trying to test them and get findings regarding them in this forum...
But...have you thought of conducting actual research? (No joke, you seem really interested in this).

People's opinions are subjective, experiences are endless. Verifying a hypothesis goes far beyond asking a few strangers on the internet.

posted June 24, 2021 06:53 PM            

My thoughts of what could be why it's rare-er. 1) Aries and Leo are below the horizon.
Both are to some degree the "child".
Sagittarius is above the horizon, where higher education and Spiritual realms (&philosophy) are governed.
These three signs could be compared as in school, how aligned are 1st graders, 5th graders and 9th graders? In my day high school kicked off in the 9th year. How much in common can a 9th grader have with his two younger friends? It isn't an uppity thing - it's growth. Plus Jupiter knowns the hermetic side of self. He (or she) can be very social, yet know the realms of "innerness". To not need another comes easily to these people.

*Not the arrogance beyond the other two mentioned Fire signs. In fact they are jovial and very receptive/ loving kind to those unlike themselves.

2) Fire can extinguish quickly, in a rage or just burn out, Younger fire may not as easily due to it's persistent nature.

3) Due to the nature of the houses theses different signs rule, they may differ too much to sustain a mind/heart meeting rs.

- We aren't all one sign, so your basis is luke warm. There's so much to us unless we each carry much more Sagittarius and or Aries/Leo. I also agree that the public rs you study are largely made by Public relation planning. Hardly a true natured chemistry.

posted June 24, 2021 07:50 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
@Teasel , yes I agree as well Leo. I was saying this due to the position OPer has about the Sagittarius natured women.

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posted June 24, 2021 09:58 PM            

Leo men also love Pisces women, way more evolved than the trashiness which is Sagittarius women.

posted June 24, 2021 11:17 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
If you were actually right then what's the explanation for your beloved Leo guy being infatuated with a Sagittarius woman right now?

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posted June 24, 2021 11:37 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Yeah, I don’t understand it. My mother was the smartest kid in her family. She attended a good school, and would have gone to college, if she hadn’t needed to start working at sixteen. They aren’t “fake smart” and are probably the least likely to have an inferiority complex. I will say that.

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posted June 26, 2021 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
@Teasel, was she Aries? Aries rules the head. I think they can be very intellectual. No idea of public personas to state as so but the head and pineal belong to Aries. Especially good when super powers are used for good pursuits.

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posted July 06, 2021 10:51 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
If you were actually right then what's the explanation for your beloved Leo guy being infatuated with a Sagittarius woman right now?

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posted July 11, 2021 07:35 PM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
I have to call it out but does anyone else notice that Sagittarius women have a god complex towards fire sign energy? Like they think their sh*t don't stink when dealing with other fire signs?

What causes it? Is it really an inferiority complex underneath due to the fact that they lack the sex appeal of a Leo or Aries woman and so they act all fake smart towards other fire signs?

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Honestly I just feel like Sagittarius and jupiter in general has a god complex whether it’s with other fire signs or not. Not saying all sag placements are like that, BUT the dark side of jupiter which isn’t addressed as often because the signs considered so “lucky” and has this protective element about it, really has a quality of taking advantage of their ability to draw in favors for themselves. Fire signs are all known for their confidence, and I think Sagittarius is very much reputable for being “preachy” and entirely disregarding other people’s opinions for a reason. Personally I feel like sag and pisces are the signs most prone to “toxic positivity” and although are renown for how happy go lucky and “positive” they are, they also are quick to dismiss any kind of criticism or anything considered too harsh or “negative” that doesn’t fit their ideas and give them a good time/feeling. I see the sign sag be masters at deflecting and not take responsibility for themselves. I also think that because there’s in innate sense of morality to the sign/planet that it’s a big factor in its arrogance, and a problem in general with those who go a spiritual route and treat it like it’s “better” or “higher” in choice and consciousness and that patronizing and looking down on others is a common manifestation.
The sign is constantly hyped up, but can have as dark of a side as any..

A lot of the time you Can look at a lot of abusive, violent people’s charts u can also find a really strong jupiter, it gives them the protected quality and luck they need to get to the positions they are in and have the magnetism to draw people to them especially when theres also the tense and prominent Pluto’s lurking just below the surface along with mars. Look at Charles mansion, prominent angular jupiter conjunct his mercury with heavy scorpio and squaring his angular Pluto, and also just apart of a giant grand cross in fixed signs. But it was his jupiter that drew his following in. Harvey Weinstein, same, prominent leo pluto squaring scorpio rising WITH MARS and with a prominent jupiter conjunct mercury aspect. Ted Bundy is a sag sun, sag moon with his moon conjunct mars. On the surface he portrayed a very likable, intelligent face while also creating a large fan base that truly believed in his innocence (Venus conjunct jupiter) he was well liked while he had a dark side lurking ride below the surface (hard mars aspects and Pluto tension). His sag nature denied his intense dark compulsions or negative traumas and made it very difficult for him to address. Then we have Richard Ramirez, who has a sag rising with jupiter ON THE ASCENDANT. So a very strongly placed jupiter while also being a pisces sun. Another trait of jupiter I notice is the entire lack of hygiene, and he was known for his rotting teeth and extreme odor. Imo we can thank jupiter for making it possible for all of these men to be able to create the following and protection they needed to get away with all the stuff they did for as long as they were able to.

posted July 11, 2021 09:24 PM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
If you must know, it was the other way around and she treated him like total dirt for months. He was trying to just do his job.

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posted July 13, 2021 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
He was trying to just do his job.

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posted July 20, 2021 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
OMG the delusion. Sags are not above other fire signs or more evolved lol. The reality is that Sag women lack that natural flair and youthfulness that other fire sign women have. Hence why Leo men love Aries women and Leo women so much.

Leo men also love Pisces women, way more evolved than the trashiness which is Sagittarius women.

Please, just admit it guys, Sag women are a bunch of trashy dumps.

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posted July 25, 2021 07:12 AM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
OMG the delusion. Sags are not above other fire signs or more evolved lol. The reality is that Sag women lack that natural flair and youthfulness that other fire sign women have. Hence why Leo men love Aries women and Leo women so much.

Leo men also love Pisces women, way more evolved than the trashiness which is Sagittarius women.

Please, just admit it guys, Sag women are a bunch of trashy dumps.

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Holy shizzle! I'm dying lol

I will say that Sags in general (both men & women) can suffer from a God Complex and foot-in-mouth syndrome. And not just around Fire signs.

And there is NO better match for a Leo Man than an Aries Woman. I've not only experienced this myself, but have seen it time and time again with others.

posted July 25, 2021 09:02 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Holy shizzle! I'm dying lol

I will say that Sags in general (both men & women) can suffer from a God Complex and foot-in-mouth syndrome. And not just around Fire signs.

And there is NO better match for a Leo Man than an Aries Woman. I've not only experienced this myself, but have seen it time and time again with others.

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posted July 25, 2021 02:12 PM            

But having been on this earth for 4 decades plus and having studied/researched astrology for nearly 3 of those, when it comes to Signs, the only consistent pattern I've most noticed is this: I have met slow vibrational/immature people of every Sign. I've met mid vibrational/decent people/middle aged souls of every Sign. And I've met fast vibrational/older Souls of every Sign.

And of those 3 groups, the second has been most numerous. (Yeah, I'm hitting you with the bold and italics even, whatch'ya gonna do now o'menacing one..)

Signs do not relate so much to Soul evolution degrees, but more to earthly archetypes/life patterns and personality types. It is Soul maturity at the end of the day that determines whether or not a person is going to be an ahole, decent, or very positive, and that relates to a combo of what they brought over from other experiences and how they are currently using their freewill. A chart CANNOT show you how a person is currently using their freewill. Just can't and doesn't. However, it does seem like most, more or less remain slaves to their probable tendencies, most of the time.

As far as what they are bringing over as far as Soul development, this relates far more to the most highlighted Planets in the chart. You see this so very clearly and consistently in the Edgar Cayce psychic readings.

When he would give people "Life readings", his source would often start of the reading with something like, "The entity entered in from so and so Planet, with so and so planets assisting" or something to that effect. That often coincided a lot with what kind of person they were like on a deeper and more consistent level. The Planets in this case, were symbolic of nonphysical consciousness/dimensional levels that were either faster or slower vibratory than another within the whole of this system.

A predominant Saturnian, Martian, Plutonian Sagittarius Sun for example, is going to be rather different than a predominant Venusian, Neptunian, Jupitarian, Solarian, and/or Arcturian with Sagittarius Sun.

Then again, we also have the wild card factor of freewill, which just cannot be seen in a chart. Not even Source itself, can always fully and completely predict how a Soul will choose to use it's freewill ahead of time. That is nature of freewill. It is an element of necessary chaos within an otherwise orderly/structured, harmonious system.

If that freewill didn't exist, we would be naught but automatons, rather than potential, true companions to the Source, and the latter is what the Source wants--it wants us to choose to become it's companions because we love it, not because we are forced. The Source (and this may sound a bit strange), is like our Mother, Father, and most intense Lover of lovers all rolled into one.

Anyways, please, enough with the silly, way over generalized, immature, and narrow astrology of "Sagittarius women are all like this" blah blah blah b.s. I've met Sagittarius Sun women of all 3 of those formerly mentioned categories. And same for EVERY Sign.

Typically we have the most issues with certain Signs when these square our strongest Sign energies and/or there are other difficult/challenging interconnections (12th House can sometimes even fit under that). Oppositions can be great, extremely attractive, and exciting when sexual attraction, connection and release is a potential within the relationship, but when it's not, it can lead to major frustrations and butting of heads and egos.

8th House connections can be love or hate/despise type connections depending.

Our Saturn placement can indicate difficulties with a certain Sign in conjunction (same Sign), square, and opposition with another's strongest placements.