posted July 01, 2021 11:18 AM            

What I feel this placement lends to is a Scorpionic-Plutonian energy and presence in playing games, interacting with children, and dating. It adds a seriousness and intensity to this sphere of life. You might even find some people who have an artistic bent creating very Scorpionic-Plutonian pieces, like artwork about the underworld or death or sex.

Depending on the other planets in this house and the 5th house ruler, I also feel that this placement can lend to not wanting children. There's a kind of wasteland energy that comes with Pluto. Nothing 'grows' easily down there. It's even possible that creative expression most easily occurs when there is a crisis either preceding it or driving it forward.

I definitely feel a depth and even a potential for obsession with this placement, but it doesn't necessarily indicate stalking or anything unhealthy, either. You just want to merge intensely and quickly with the person you're dating, whereas dating is usually thought of as a more playful and lighthearted thing by most. The Pluto 5H person is frustrated by the superficiality and niceties of dating. They also - whether they admit it or not - really need good sex to feel connected with the person they're dating whereas some people aren't quite as into that.

posted July 01, 2021 11:28 AM            

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Originally posted by oceansofstars:
I agree with @Hikaru29 - it's not the same as having the Sun in Scorpio. I can totally see why you would feel that way since the 5th house is ruled by Leo.

What I feel this placement lends to is a Scorpionic-Plutonian energy and presence in playing games, interacting with children, and dating. It adds a seriousness and intensity to this sphere of life. You might even find some people who have an artistic bent creating very Scorpionic-Plutonian pieces, like artwork about the underworld or death or sex.

Depending on the other planets in this house and the 5th house ruler, I also feel that this placement can lend to not wanting children. There's a kind of wasteland energy that comes with Pluto. Nothing 'grows' easily down there. It's even possible that creative expression most easily occurs when there is a crisis either preceding it or driving it forward.

I definitely feel a depth and even a potential for obsession with this placement, but it doesn't necessarily indicate stalking or anything unhealthy, either. You just want to merge intensely and quickly with the person you're dating, whereas dating is usually thought of as a more playful and lighthearted thing by most. The Pluto 5H person is frustrated by the superficiality and niceties of dating. They also - whether they admit it or not - really need good sex to feel connected with the person they're dating whereas some people aren't quite as into that.

The best planetary match for someone with this placement is probably Venus in Scorpio.

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posted July 01, 2021 12:03 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I know it's not the same as having Scorpio Sun that's why I said similar.

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posted July 01, 2021 12:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
And I’m saying I don’t feel like a Scorpio Sun. I’ve a good friend who’s a Scorpio Sun and I don’t feel like we behave similarly in love.

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posted July 01, 2021 12:29 PM            

But it's probably different for everyone though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu4-7mHiQTc

posted July 01, 2021 03:50 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I understand what you are saying thank you for your input that all makes sense. I didn't know that was the case about might not wanting to have children. What about someone with Venus in the 8th house? Would that be a good match?

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Yep! I'm glad it helps.

I would also say any Saturn signature (like Saturn square the ruler of the 5H or Saturn in the 5H) could also point to not wanting kids. I have met several strictly Pluto 5H people who did not want kids. I think it depends on a lot of factors, but I can see the annihilation side of Pluto causing some issues here, in that regard. Maybe even the death of a child? (Depressing, sorry. Lol...)

posted July 05, 2021 08:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
And I’m saying I don’t feel like a Scorpio Sun. I’ve a good friend who’s a Scorpio Sun and I don’t feel like we behave similarly in love.

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You asked: "Is this placement similar to having Sun in Scorpio?", that's why I replied the way I did. If you're not insinuating that then I'm not sure why you asked that qn in the first place. It was confusing to me.

posted July 05, 2021 05:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
You asked: "Is this placement similar to having Sun in Scorpio?", that's why I replied the way I did. If you're not insinuating that then I'm not sure why you asked that qn in the first place. It was confusing to me.

Anyway nope, my partner does not have Scorpio Venus. My first bf has this placement and it sucks. Clash with my Gemini Venus. I've Pluto in Libra so air/fire Venus are best matches with both my Pluto & Venus. If you have a Scorpio Pluto in 5H then yes, it will be super hot with a Scorpio Venus.

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Yes I understand what you’re saying. I asked this because I’ve watched YouTube videos about people comparing Pluto in the fifth house with Scorpio Sun. I guess some people think the two is basically the same.

posted July 05, 2021 06:46 PM            

I've always considered myself more plutonic than most. Makes socializing a little difficult. Idk..maybe I am too intense or detached or both.

I have pluto conjunct venus in Scorpio 5th house. Which trines my jupiter & Mars conjunction in 9th house pisces & then completing the grand trine with ascendant in cancer.

posted July 06, 2021 08:48 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Yes I understand what you’re saying. I asked this because I’ve watched YouTube videos about people comparing Pluto in the fifth house with Scorpio Sun. I guess some people think the two is basically the same.

I think it really depends on your Venus sign. The guy who’s Pluto square my Moon has Pluto in the 5th house. But he has no Scorpio in his chart besides that. I have Pluto in Scorpio in the 3rd house. And I think Scorpio Venus are too much for me. Even with me having Venus in the 8th house. I bet your Venus probably conjuncts my Mars lol.

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The 5H represents creative pursuits, hobbies/interests, romance, children... Pluto being placed here will make one passionate/intense, obsessed, fixated with these areas. People with this placement is likely to attract lovers with some strong Pluto in their chart. My 1st bf has Scorpio Venus + Pluto sextile Sun (he may also have a Scorpio ASC); 2nd bf has Pluto square Sun, sextile Moon (not sure of his ASC); current bf has Pluto conjunct Moon, square Mars.

I understand why people say it's similar to having a Scorpio Sun but to me there's still some differences. It also depends where their Sun is placed and how it's aspected. It shows where their energies are focused on, where they can be fixated. Also I personally find Scorpio Sun natives to have more staying power than 5H Pluto natives. The latter seemed to have less tolerance for infidelity. Yeah I know it sounds funny because we all know Scorpios hate cheaters. But in reality I know Scorpio women who stayed on with their cheating partners. In comparison, 5H Pluto natives may be faster at cutting off because they almost don't give their partners a chance to explain, lol. But because the betrayal feels so painful to them, they will psychologically burn away all feelings & memories like the other party never existed. Not saying Scorpios won't do that but it may take them longer to reach that point due to their tremendous staying power.