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Topic: Can you change your soul?
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WhiteBirds Knowflake Posts: 314 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted August 04, 2021 07:18 PM
Let's say for whatever reason, you don't like your own soul. Can you exchange your soul for another? A soul is an energetic composition, a fragment of the universe within a person. If I do not like the fragment that touched me and I want another, can I do it? I know this is a strange question, but it is the only solution I see. I want to change my soul for another that I like. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 19492 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 04, 2021 07:37 PM
Isn’t that what we do, as we grow and change? Or are you talking about something like walk-ins?There is something called soul retrieval. I’ve never experienced it myself, but I thought about it. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 4722 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted August 04, 2021 07:46 PM
You are the soul. Talk of having one is a distortion of linguistic syntax or a product of a human mindset of separation/disconnection.You CAN grow and change your personality. That is merely a development of responses to life experience, even past life experience. ------------------ Started studying astrology in 1996 via the Edgar Cayce material, then Magi astrology and declinations, then found John Willner's work. I'm a world class birth chart rectifier. That took well over a decade to learn after intermediate astrology. IP: Logged |
WhiteBirds Knowflake Posts: 314 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted August 04, 2021 08:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: Isn’t that what we do, as we grow and change? Or are you talking about something like walk-ins?There is something called soul retrieval. I’ve never experienced it myself, but I thought about it.
No. What we do is modify or expand. If with 15 years you liked, I do not know, the Basketball, for example. 3 years later you hate basketball because you don't enjoy it anymore. It's an example. I mean totally change the kernel / root. To be a totally different person. I do not know if I explain myself. IP: Logged |
WhiteBirds Knowflake Posts: 314 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted August 04, 2021 08:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: You [b]are the soul. Talk of having one is a distortion of linguistic syntax or a product of a human mindset of separation/disconnection.You CAN grow and change your personality. That is merely a development of responses to life experience, even past life experience. [/B]
Yes. This is the root of everything. I don't want to change my personality. I wouldn't mind having my personality with another soul. What I want is to totally change my soul. Take another piece of the universe, and put it inside of me, and in return, remove the trace of the universe with which I was born. I need to have another soul.
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MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 5630 From: Inside the Ring of 🔥 Registered: Nov 2016
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posted August 04, 2021 08:50 PM
Whitebirds,
I believe you'll find yourself healing within the next year. Take care of your heart and forgive as much as you can for your heart to be restored. Your Soul feels damaged, this won't last.
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Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3770 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted August 04, 2021 08:59 PM
no you can't, your soul is your core it's youthere is no changing it to get something else your body is a shell, your body with another soul in it isnt you take your soul out and put it elsewhere you're still just wherever your soul is IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 43 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted August 05, 2021 02:58 AM
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PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 43 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted August 05, 2021 02:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by WhiteBirds: Yes. This is the root of everything. I don't want to change my personality. I wouldn't mind having my personality with another soul. What I want is to totally change my soul. Take another piece of the universe, and put it inside of me, and in return, remove the trace of the universe with which I was born. I need to have another soul.
What you want is a distraction from what you truely need to achieve. You do not need a new soul, but you do need to learn self forgiveness and self love. It is something I haven’t mastered yet myself but I know it is necessary for healing and becoming a better person. Healing yourself is extremely difficult but is a step that you can’t skip. You have to do the work.
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GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 191 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted August 05, 2021 03:17 PM
+1 to what Kannon, Dumuzi, and PlutoWasHere wrote. There is no trading in your soul for another, as it is you and part of your very essence. A Soul can commit an unwanted, unconscious Soul suicide if it gets psychopathic enough, and then starts to experience a kind of consciousness entropy process. This leads to a true and final death for that self; a soul death (but the larger Spirit/Expanded self that created the Soul remains and retains all the memories of the Soul that gets destroyed). You are not nearly negative enough to even be anywhere near this process, and that is a good thing. And even in the above case, there is always some sliver of hope. Some pretty dark souls here and there have been retrieved and changed for the better before they experienced Soul death. Besides my own internal guidance, 3 fairly good/high sources speak to the above process and potential. These are Bruce Moen (strongly associated with Robert A. Monroe), Tom Campbell (also strongly associated with Robert A. Monroe), and Edgar Cayce. IP: Logged |
WhiteBirds Knowflake Posts: 314 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted August 05, 2021 08:25 PM
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 14726 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 05, 2021 08:34 PM
Your soul is beautiful just the way it is. You need help healing, you don't need to change your soul: http://www.flowersociety.org/joshua_tree.htm IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 3644 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted August 06, 2021 02:53 AM
If you say you want a new soul, then you’re still not learning your life lessons. Some things you can’t just discard and get a new one like buying a new dress.IP: Logged |
SoulOfABird Knowflake Posts: 1175 From: California Registered: Sep 2017
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posted August 06, 2021 06:39 AM
I feel you White Bird I feel the same way. Like another soul please lol Im really not sure what people even mean by soul. I dont even know what my soul is. I named myself soulofabird because I always admired birds, wondering what they did up in their trees. They seem to live peaceful lives but at the same time fly wherever seeing so many different beautiful places but still return home to their nice little nest. I always thought being a bird seemed peaceful lolBut really, what is a soul? Im kind of scared to know what mine really is. IP: Logged |
Amoranthaniela Knowflake Posts: 143 From: europe Registered: Dec 2020
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posted August 06, 2021 06:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by SoulOfABird: I feel you White Bird I feel the same way. Like another soul please lol Im really not sure what people even mean by soul. I dont even know what my soul is. I named myself soulofabird because I always admired birds, wondering what they did up in their trees. They seem to live peaceful lives but at the same time fly wherever seeing so many different beautiful places but still return home to their nice little nest. I always thought being a bird seemed peaceful lolBut really, what is a soul? Im kind of scared to know what mine really is.
A soul is like a consciousness matrix, made of energy. If you're afraid of your soul that can only mean you're afraid of your own "awakening" and self realization. You can't apply physical logic to something non physical. It's not something you "have/possess" and it's not a t-shirt you can exhchange for a new one.
Honestly y'all need spirituality or god or smn :v 👻
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SoulOfABird Knowflake Posts: 1175 From: California Registered: Sep 2017
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posted August 06, 2021 07:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by Amoranthaniela: A soul is like a consciousness matrix, made of energy. If you're afraid of your soul that can only mean you're afraid of your own "awakening" and self realization. You can't apply physical logic to something non physical. It's not something you "have/possess" and it's not a t-shirt you can exhchange for a new one.
Honestly y'all need spirituality or god or smn :v
Okay but is there anything in astrology that indicates your soul? I mean if it can shows your unconscious mind surely your soul ? I didn’t say there needed to be a logical explanation. I just don’t understand the differences between personality or soul, or how to tell them apart. I mean innately I feel like it’s just your core self. That can never be changed of course. How we react and respond to our experiences and grow from them? Im not sure because I thought some say that it’s your unconscious ? I am actually quite spiritual I would say and I do believe in god. Honestly I am afraid of a lot of things. Im afraid of the unknown. For the past year I keep seeing 1111 and 111 completely unintentionally and even tried to ignore the number since some believe it means nothing. Apparently it means spiritual awakening. So Im guessing somehow I am but I just don’t know how I know I am. Cause honestly when I think of spiritual awakening it would be the same for everyone. I don’t know. Anyways It doesn’t even matter I was only sharing my experience with op so she wouldn’t feel alone in wishing we were someone else
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WhiteBirds Knowflake Posts: 314 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted August 06, 2021 07:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by SoulOfABird: I feel you White Bird I feel the same way. Like another soul please lol Im really not sure what people even mean by soul. I dont even know what my soul is. I named myself soulofabird because I always admired birds, wondering what they did up in their trees. They seem to live peaceful lives but at the same time fly wherever seeing so many different beautiful places but still return home to their nice little nest. I always thought being a bird seemed peaceful lolBut really, what is a soul? Im kind of scared to know what mine really is.
I feel you. Hugs. A soul is an energetic composition. Your physical body is matter. How can a piece of furniture be. The difference between you and the furniture is that you have life And what gives you life is your soul. Your soul is dust of the universe, it is a fragment of the universe within you. Each person, even twins, is born with a different portion of the universe. Also the animals. So that's why each person and each animal is a different universe. Changing your soul means changing the portion of the universe with which you were born. It is not supposed to be done, but we are also supposed to have free will to do whatever we want in this life. The soul is also what allows you to react in your particular way to life events. It is your particular way of seeing the world. It is the portion of the universe that touched you reflected in the world. The soul is supposed to be a map with which we are born to experiment according to what things, and also to create what we want. The soul is an energetic vibration. Every living being vibrates at its unique vibration. Then we are supposed to have free will to modify our vibration ... But we can never change the core. Imagine a glass. You can put whatever you want in the glass (water, tea, coffee, chocolate, etc ...). You can even mix everything. You have free will. But the glass is your soul, and you cannot change that. The glass is the core. What you put in the glass can never change the glass. And this thread is about how to change the glass 😅 Oh, my name was WhiteBirds, because one time a white bird stood in my window and didn't leave until two days later. And he wasn't scared of me either. I thought it was nice haha. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 43 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted August 06, 2021 07:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by SoulOfABird: Okay but is there anything in astrology that indicates your soul? I mean if it can shows your unconscious mind surely your soul ?I didn’t say there needed to be a logical explanation. I just don’t understand the differences between personality or soul, or how to tell them apart. I mean innately I feel like it’s just your core self. That can never be changed of course. How we react and respond to our experiences and grow from them? Im not sure because I thought some say that it’s your unconscious ? I am actually quite spiritual I would say and I do believe in god. Honestly I am afraid of a lot of things. Im afraid of the unknown. For the past year I keep seeing 1111 and 111 completely unintentionally and even tried to ignore the number since some believe it means nothing. Apparently it means spiritual awakening. So Im guessing somehow I am but I just don’t know how I know I am. Cause honestly when I think of spiritual awakening it would be the same for everyone. I don’t know. Anyways It doesn’t even matter I was only sharing my experience with op so she wouldn’t feel alone in wishing we were someone else
Hi SoulOfABird, I think it is very kind of you to share your own struggles with the concept of a soul and spiritual awakening. I wish I had some easy answers but it is a bit of a journey for myself as well. Not so much the nature of the soul, but more what I need my soul to grow into has been the question I keep asking myself. When it comes to astrology, the soul's journey seems to be connected to the nodes. I still have not been able to fully grasp the nodes in relation to Karma and the Soul but I feel there is a strong connection. I have tried to get some new insight through the draconic chart and draco synastry with my family members absolutely blew my mind. However, it does remain a puzzel for me even though sometimes I think a can make some of the pieces fit. IP: Logged |
WhiteBirds Knowflake Posts: 314 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted August 06, 2021 08:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by SoulOfABird: Okay but is there anything in astrology that indicates your soul? I mean if it can shows your unconscious mind surely your soul ?I didn’t say there needed to be a logical explanation. I just don’t understand the differences between personality or soul, or how to tell them apart. I mean innately I feel like it’s just your core self. That can never be changed of course. How we react and respond to our experiences and grow from them? Im not sure because I thought some say that it’s your unconscious ? I am actually quite spiritual I would say and I do believe in god. Honestly I am afraid of a lot of things. Im afraid of the unknown. For the past year I keep seeing 1111 and 111 completely unintentionally and even tried to ignore the number since some believe it means nothing. Apparently it means spiritual awakening. So Im guessing somehow I am but I just don’t know how I know I am. Cause honestly when I think of spiritual awakening it would be the same for everyone. I don’t know. Anyways It doesn’t even matter I was only sharing my experience with op so she wouldn’t feel alone in wishing we were someone else
Personality is a costume or many costumes that you can have in your life. Today you can be shy, tomorrow outgoing. Personality is a costume that you make from what you see around you . But the soul is your core. It is what makes you alive. When you die it is over, life is over and whatever personality you thought you had. And I don't know if you can see the soul in the birth chart ... I would say no. But who knows. For example, the more you are your soul, the more you will be an energetic being. You will emit light. The more disconnected you are from your soul, the more you will be matter. A physical body. All humans are supposed to be born to be your souls, but the higher the survival state, the more you become matter. I have been near death countless times. Since my biological mother left me, as a baby, in the middle of the street with all the snow, to my luck, and the neighbors had to pick me up, Even stronger things. And in each encounter with death, you will go through a long stage of simple matter. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 191 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted August 06, 2021 10:43 AM
Your Soul is bigger and more complex than your chart, but it is best reflected in a combination of your strongest Planets in combo with your Sun Sign and strongest Solar aspects. To some extent, the Moon, South Node, and IC contribute to outlining the strongest past patterns, but in the more earthly and past life sense (while the strongest Planets relate more directly to what consciousnesses levels you were most attuned to before coming here). IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 145680 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 06, 2021 11:35 AM
Everyone here gave great advice. However, Linda Goodman wrote about this topic at length in Gooberz. A hint: It has to do with Saturn. If you find a used copy and read it, you will be pleased.IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 5630 From: Inside the Ring of 🔥 Registered: Nov 2016
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posted August 06, 2021 12:16 PM
http://youtu.be/wZrunMnKwIc IP: Logged |
WhiteBirds Knowflake Posts: 314 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted August 06, 2021 01:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Everyone here gave great advice. However, Linda Goodman wrote about this topic at length in Gooberz. A hint: It has to do with Saturn. If you find a used copy and read it, you will be pleased.
But do not leave us with the intrigue, tell us. 🍿 IP: Logged |
Seraphinesky Knowflake Posts: 40 From: jupiter Registered: Nov 2020
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posted August 06, 2021 05:47 PM
Reading this today has lifted me somewhat....thankyou all IP: Logged |
Amoranthaniela Knowflake Posts: 143 From: europe Registered: Dec 2020
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posted August 07, 2021 02:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by SoulOfABird: Okay but is there anything in astrology that indicates your soul? I mean if it can shows your unconscious mind surely your soul ?I didn’t say there needed to be a logical explanation. I just don’t understand the differences between personality or soul, or how to tell them apart. I mean innately I feel like it’s just your core self. That can never be changed of course. How we react and respond to our experiences and grow from them? Im not sure because I thought some say that it’s your unconscious ? I am actually quite spiritual I would say and I do believe in god. Honestly I am afraid of a lot of things. Im afraid of the unknown. For the past year I keep seeing 1111 and 111 completely unintentionally and even tried to ignore the number since some believe it means nothing. Apparently it means spiritual awakening.
Oh, I see, and understand. And my comment about spirituality/god was about your fear. Being so fearful is rooted in a lack of faith. But I hope you find more serenity in your life some day ~~ IP: Logged |