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MoonMystic
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posted August 05, 2021 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Serious question to anyone who looks at synasty's or relationship studies.

(Please share your experience seeing this as a key in Romantic couples charts.)

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I know this is less usual; I have read other's say they have Love connection synastry with an involvement with the MC to various energies.

In my situation I've had this too.

It makes me wonder if this could be the MC person is an Inspiration to the planet/luminary person. Or the non MC person feels the MC is their pinnacle in terms of a mate. Thinking higher point in chart for the one - Could this be a "Dream" love. An "ideal mate"?


As well couldn't it be a career/workplace love connection? Looking at this it makes me think "admiration*. Somebody who sees the "other" as fascinating doing "what they do" and shinning. Similar to how a fanboy/fangirl might think of a rising new
(Example) Chef @a huge restaurant has a Sous chef working with them. A crush turning to romantic involvement rooted in admiration?


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posted August 05, 2021 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me, it connects to their ascendants (Leo ascendants), maybe their moon or Venus. Mostly the ascendant.

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posted August 05, 2021 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's where my DNA and Pandora are.

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posted August 06, 2021 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The chart must never be read as independent clusters working in an oblivious fashion to each other. But as one whole imv.

Imo,the Mc planets or conjunctions represents what the native deems a "high priority" characteristics we want in life(including relationships).Whilst the Ic is the "this goes without saying" characteristics that we take comfort in knowing are an integral part of the person we are drawn to.

In composite, we have Sat/Ura in 10th. This relationship certainly feels "serious"(Sat). This even as it is long distance(Uran).

Most of our talks are very logical/ down to earth(Sat). And ofcourse some unconventional stuff does creep in(Ur) but its mostly to keep each other on our
toes.

In natal, he has Sun in 3rd conj Ic. I have Moon in 3rd conjunct Ic. It goes without saying that we both want talkers. People who'll talk about what is happening within (Ic).

I have Mercu conj Mc. I prioritize communication. It opposes my Moon. Sp perhaps I go to extremes in expressing how I feel?💁🏿‍♂️

He has Moon conj Mc. He prioritizes his feelings. And Moon opp Sun suggests he needs a sounding board for when his feelings are not clear (opposition).

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posted August 06, 2021 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Aries23Degrees for answering!
You think you had this connection too?
 In terms of romance, then  the energy would be aspire or even "inspiration"?
There's an old song by an American, Chicago, band that comes to mind.

What's  your opinion when Sun hits the other's  MC?
His MC hits my Sun. It would be me looking to him as a partner to aspire to be with?
It's a curious one because I think it's  my side, though Sun, isn't it how other's see "you"  - the light? Maybe subtly  he recognizes my Sun (3rd)? (fun)  We do feel our angels. MC, a desire to rise to,. excel to. The happy ever after all. Career,  spouse,  everything other's  see. 


Saturn/ Uranus,  does it sometimes feel eratic?  (Uranus) All yours/his challenges in the synastry looks like the Glue. Saturn certainly brings stability.  Uranus is what I find as curious.

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posted August 06, 2021 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've found that strong MC connections often relate to a sense of respect and admiration, and also often a kind of status/power/authority thing.

I haven't had it too highlighted in romantic connections for the most part, but I have a (male) friend where we both have our Sun in each other's 10th Houses.

We are both very spiritually and service focused people. Anyways, we deeply admire and respect each other in this area. We also have a boosting affect on each other in this area, and in how we present to the public/larger society. For example, I have written some positive reviews of his books. We have defended or supported each other on a forum and on YT comments.

I guess a bit "cheerleader'ish" in some respects.

But I never underestimate the power of status, authority, and/power to attract people, especially on a physical, body level. There is a percentage of women out there for example, that seem to get attracted to men (or partners generally) primarily based on this factor. It relates back to the Moon and IC and that of home, security, and family, and that a materially successful partner can provide more material security of the latter.

For humans that are more intune with their body than the Soul and/or Spirit levels, this is indeed highly attractive at a primitive, animal-body-genetic proliferation level.

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posted August 07, 2021 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Thank you Aries23Degrees for answering!
You think you had this connection too?
 In terms of romance, then  the energy would be aspire or even "inspiration"?
There's an old song by an American, Chicago, band that comes to mind.

What's  your opinion when Sun hits the other's  MC?
His MC hits my Sun. It would be me looking to him as a partner to aspire to be with?
It's a curious one because I think it's  my side, though Sun, isn't it how other's see "you"  - the light? Maybe subtly  he recognizes my Sun (3rd)? (fun)  We do feel our angels. MC, a desire to rise to,. excel to. The happy ever after all. Career,  spouse,  everything other's  see. 


Saturn/ Uranus,  does it sometimes feel eratic?  (Uranus) All yours/his challenges in the synastry looks like the Glue. Saturn certainly brings stability.  Uranus is what I find as curious.


That Sat/Uranus mix is certainly a dicey combo to have on the MC. It has the "crazy"(Uranus)/ normal(Sat) effect on our relations.

There are usually disturbances with communication, the inability to reach each other timeously, delays in visiting each other. All veey characteristic of Ura/Sat.

Concerning the MC;I made the mistake once of looking at the MC as a "destination" rather than a manifestation here and now.

An Astrologer pointed out to me that the MC is energy happening NOW.All the chart is happening NOW. Take conscious awareness of the energy right here and NOW.

If the partner's Sun is on your MC, they may enjoy clarity of vision or thoughts with you. Lots of "aha" moments for them.

Maybe you help "illuminate" (Sun) something that they had not known -depending on the sign that's there.

If the sign is Gemini on the MC, you may (for instance) articulate something from a perspective that brings great clarity to the Sun person.A sort of "lighbulb" comes on. And they say "yes. I see it so clearly now." Etc.

I used to wonder why a Moon in Cap friend of mine would say "I never saw it like that" or "wow.I never thought of it that way" etc.

And that's because his Moon on my MC was having its inner thoughts/feelings articulated in a way that made them more tangible and clear.

I was watching a video of the mentally sharp Joan Rivers a while ago. She has MC at 1.59 Cap. My Sun is Sag 29.32 Sag (conj her Mc). And I couldn't help but feel she articulates a lot of what I want to say.

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posted August 10, 2021 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 11, 2021 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Crazy that I came across this thread. I was just pondering why I end up in relationships where the man always has their sun on my MC or near that angle.

Last big 3 relationships had late Pisces or early Aries Sun conjunct my MC

I always thought it had to do with my 7th house being ruled by saturn but there could be more to it.

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posted August 12, 2021 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also think the MC is often misinterpreted as our professional self/ambition. Text book examples state someone’s sun conjunct MC in another’s chart would bring the MC owner additional drive in their professional life.

I can tell you with the big 3 relationships I’ve had with this aspect present, not one boosted my career. It was already established before meeting any of them. In fact, my ex husband who was a late Pisces Sun would try and sabotage my success at times.

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posted August 12, 2021 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karma30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my current relationship my venus is widely conjunct my bf's MC (I'm NOT attracted to his 'social status' but i'm pushing him towards his goals) while he has his Ceres PERFECTLY conjunct my MC.
Any ideas?

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posted August 14, 2021 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus conjunct MC DW in a synastry with my date and in composite as well, and my Ceres is widely conjunct his IC.

We met through work, but that's about it, work doesn't play much role in our relationship.

I also wonder what on Earth it could mean.

My Eros is conjunct his MC even more tightly.

As for Asc-Dsc axis, my Asc is widely conjunct his Pluto (6* orb) and my Lilith & Juno are conjunct his Dsc (Lilith tightly).

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posted August 19, 2021 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I think more deeply about the angles and my past relationships, along with what I have studied with synastry, I’m inclined to think that the angle activation is what draws people to one another. It’s that magnetic energy that makes you want to learn more about each other...until your own aspects or another synastry connection causes you to become insecure with the scenario or with yourself.

I’ve found that there’s an initial fascination with the other, and it doesn’t go away entirely if any insecurities arise...it kinda hangs in the background waited to get noticed again. However, if you are truly secure with yourselves and one another, the angle activation points have the potential to take center stage to the relationship. It can get kinda tricky if one person is activating the others points and not reciprocated. But if you both touch each other’s angles, that’s when personal insecurities (or other issues) would cloud the connection - you would have to study the natal chart to determine what “sore spots” each person has.

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posted August 19, 2021 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mostly agree Llewsacm, but I have noticed that out of the Angles, the interaction/connection with the MC often feels the most impersonal, though it is strong at the same time.

With 1st, 4th, and 7th it is not only very strong, but also very personal, and often more emotional in nature.

But as these comes in pairs of axes, it can be hard to separate them, because whatever is interacting with the MC is simultaneously also often interacting with the IC, especially when talking about conjunctions and oppositions (the most powerful/affecting aspects).

I'll give an example. I knew someone whose late Aries Sun, earlier Taurus Mercury (ruler of their chart), and Taurus South Node conjunction was conjunct my MC, and conversely their Scorp N. Node was conjunct my IC.

We shared a direct past life together in very ancient, pre history Egypt (I think, since I know I've had a life there, and I had a dream about observing her life there, and when we first met she said she felt she was the incarnation of an Egyptian self), and in that life, I had a lot of power, status, and influence.

I was a priest and she a priestess. I think part of her initial attraction to me in that life was because I did have a lot of power, influence, and status. In the dream I had about observing her past life, she came from native Egyptian royalty (I was originally a northern immigrant and initially rose from humble beginnings), and was somewhat concerned with such ego based stuff, at least initially (until her spiritual regeneration, which past I had helped a lot with as a guide/facilitator figure).


Well when I met her in this life, I had none of that, and she had not gone through a regeneration. However, she continued that general pattern by getting involved with a man that is somewhat high up in her sex cult group, a man also twice her age (and I thought I was perhaps too old..).

I think that astro. synastric pattern quite probably relates to that past life dynamic. She did seem initially to respect and consider what I said, until I became too pressing and intense.

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posted August 19, 2021 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by llewsacm:
Crazy that I came across this thread. I was just pondering why I end up in relationships where the man always has their sun on my MC or near that angle.

Last big 3 relationships had late Pisces or early Aries Sun conjunct my MC

I always thought it had to do with my 7th house being ruled by saturn but there could be more to it.


I wonder if the MC can be a hookup zone for some. Similar to the 4th. Around roots or home. They may meet childhood neighbors or those friends to family. MC for you might be your trigger. Pisces can be a persuasive sign too. A rather difficult one to ignore. They are mesmerizing in their way.

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posted August 19, 2021 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Karma30:
In my current relationship my venus is widely conjunct my bf's MC (I'm NOT attracted to his 'social status' but i'm pushing him towards his goals) while he has his Ceres PERFECTLY conjunct my MC.
Any ideas?


I think his Ceres feeds your need to be observed in a professional way. He nurtures ?nudges you to aim for success.

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posted August 19, 2021 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 (love that btw) - I get what you mean ok so insecurity- you thought you were too old lol, right?

I had a relationship with someone where we had moon conjunct asc dw. Initially, very strong pull...but the insecurities reared their ugly heads and meddled with the beautiful energy generated by the angle aspects. Even to this day it is underlying energy. We both feel it. It is up to each person to reconcile that Discomfort. You know what I mean?

I think you will find a level of frustration with these synastry aspects if you are more “in tune” with yourself...because most of the world is not.

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posted August 19, 2021 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
I wonder if the MC can be a [b] hookup zone for some. Similar to the 4th. Around roots or home. They may meet childhood neighbors or those friends to family. MC for you might be your trigger. Pisces can be a persuasive sign too. A rather difficult one to ignore. They are mesmerizing in their way.

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I would not label them as hookup aspects. I was with my ex husband for 18 years so it was definitely more than a hookup. But I think what you may be hinting at is what draws you to that person. And we were drawn to each other for sure. However our relationship became incredible stale.

My ex husband died last month. He talked trash about me to anyone he could. But when he was dying, I was at his side comforting him. Not because I still “loved” him in the same sense that I did when I first married him, but as I care about your well being kinda energy. Which leads me to believe that it is underlying energy that is dormant if not recognized by both parties involved. He stifled it, I tried not to but we react of the other persons energy, like it or not. I think this energy simmers in the background and we either decide to let go of our inhibitions or let them get the better of us.

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posted August 19, 2021 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought it sounded bad, I apologize. I don't know what it could be called maybe a matchmaker? I didn't mean it disrespectfully.

And I'm very sorry. For your loss.

He was not a good effect for you but he may have taught you, the way you absolutely *should be and not be treated*.

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posted August 20, 2021 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MoonMystic:
I thought it sounded bad, I apologize. I don't know what it could be called maybe a matchmaker? I didn't mean it disrespectfully.

And I'm very sorry. For your loss.

He was not a good effect for you but he may have taught you, the way you absolutely *should be and not be treated*.


Oh no! No disrespect taken at all! Please don’t apologize..we are all just learning from each other here.

Maybe it is more of a matchmaker aspect. The mid heaven represent our public self or so it says after all. I seem to attract or be attracted to those types anyway.

Thank you for your sympathy. ❤️

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