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Dumuzi
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posted August 13, 2021 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
@Dumuzi

I think my own beliefs are very personal and I dont think you really have the right to tell me what and how I should believe in it?

Yes I have not read the Bible. I dont know where on here I said I called myself a Christian, but I know I cant since I chose not to read it.
But even if I did, if I am praying to Jesus and believe he is the son of God that is in line with Christianity right?

Yes people put their own spin on the Bible and have thought about reading it but there are a few reason why I dont.

For one, the original writing isn't even in English, so I would literally have to learn another language just get an accurate interpretation of what the Bible says.

Secondly, like I mentioned earlier I actually have had a hard time with Christianity because of the ones who follow it and call themselves "Christians". Im not sure what makes them become the way they are, is it going to church and reading the Bible that makes them arrogant in their beliefs? I dont know. In any case I dont want to become like them.

Yes Im aware my own beliefs might not be completely in line with Christianity. To be honest Im not sure what to call myself as I have come to terms that no one really knows who is God. But I do know that the one I have been praying to is there. I do imagine him being Jesus and that is why I align myself more with Christianity.
But regardless I think in the end God will understand that not everyone knows exactly what is true.

Also, I didn't say that stealing for greed is unforgivable. I was comparing different intentions behind things makes a difference.

But like I said I believe god forgives anything if you strive to be good. You can steal for greed, but if you keep doing it again and again knowing it is wrong, you are not striving to do good.
That's my point.

In any case, I dont understand why people get triggered by dislike for what Satanism is, or my own beliefs. Im not forcing anyone on here to believe the same. You're entitled to your own beliefs.
I get that my beliefs are probably cherry picked, as there are some things in the Bible I dont like. But Im following my own gut about what I believe. I dont think I should have to read up on everything just to come to terms with my beliefs. Spirituality is something personal and I dont believe I have to apply logic to what I believe in or know why I do believe in it.

Just like people in here are saying that I shouldn't care about what he believes in, I can say the same?

The point of my thread was to ask if there is anything in his chart that can point to his possible beliefs.

Im not sure why it is bothersome to some people if I personally dont agree with Satanism and things of the like or what it represents? Im not on here asking you all to tell me how to change his beliefs. Like I said that's his beliefs and I cant and won't tell him what to do or what to believe. But that doesn't mean I have to like it...


i think it would help to know what satanism is before condemning it is all, it's just sort of an ignorant knee jerk reaction to a name than the actual beliefs he may have

and i pointed out you're not actually a christian in spite of liking some stuff about jesus because you're not looking deeper at your own beliefs or anyone else's so it's sort of weird to me to have strong opinions/beliefs at all with no understanding of the things you condemn or believe

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Dumuzi
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posted August 13, 2021 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
also my point is that the beliefs you illustrated having about people and how to treat them and behave are in line with lavey's satanic values

so if this guy is a satanist in that vein then... you may see eye to eye on plenty and yet you're hung up on the name of a deity you don't follow fully so it's odd to me is all

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Hikaru29
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posted August 14, 2021 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
But that doesn't mean I have to like it...

You don’t have to like it and don’t have to accept the things that make you feel uncomfortable. I’m not here to discuss religion because there are too many doctrines and opinions out there. Just wanna share a similar experience…

When I first met my guy, he had a tattoo of a snake on his chest. Even though I was attracted to him, the tattoo (snake=sergeant=satan) made me really uneasy. After some time I asked him about the tattoo. He said it was simply because he was born in the year of the snake and it was actually a henna tattoo (not a permanent one) to cover a scar on his chest. I told him how I felt about the snake and that I didn’t mind his scar at all. He never put the tattoo again.

My point is… it may not have any special meaning for him to wear the inverted pentagram necklace and like some say, it may just be a sign of rebellion/freedom etc. I remember back in the early 90s, some of the boys in my school wore it too without thinking too deeply into its associated meaning.

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spacecadet42420
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posted August 15, 2021 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecadet42420     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
He's a public figure so I doubt he will respond to me. But all that you mentioned is aligning with Satan and obviously being against God is exacly what God doesn't want.

Are you saying that you made this post saying that you are infatuated with this person for many years and his pentagram necklace might finally do you in to end your made up relationship with him…….but he’s a public figure that you’ve never met? Am I understanding this properly?

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SoulOfABird
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posted August 16, 2021 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Hikaru29

Thanks for that Hikaru. Yeah I dont usually bring up religion or anything on this forum, but because I wanted more input into his chart I made this thread.
I didn't think it would become a religion debate lol

You might be right. I mean it's quite possible he doesn't really understand the symbolism.
Maybe Im looking too much into it, because the necklace isn't EXACTLY like the inverted pentagon, it's actually elongated at the bottom point. But if your shorten it it's exactly like the pentagon. And it's called pentagon necklace.

In any case I figured Id show the picture here. I will delete it later sorry y'all but I still am not comfortable with it

To me that's what it looks like and maybe the red lighting added to it for me. But others might have a different view of it.

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spacecadet42420
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posted August 16, 2021 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecadet42420     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by spacecadet42420:
Are you saying that you made this post saying that you are infatuated with this person for many years and his pentagram necklace might finally do you in to end your made up relationship with him…….but he’s a public figure that you’ve never met? Am I understanding this properly?

I think there is a way bigger issue at hand if you’re going to the extent to make online posts acting as if your life is being effected or you’re going through an ending of a relationship, when you’ve never met this person or talked to them and never will. This is kinda disturbing. Like you’re upset about a necklace they were wearing and what their beliefs may or may not be as if you have any right to do so. They are their own person and they don’t even know you and if they did that still wouldn’t give you the right to pass judgement or do anything about it. This says a lot about your character if you were to be in an actual relationship. Like it is not okay to look at a celebrity and form a relationship with them in your head and then prepare yourself for a breakup because they did something you didn’t like. I hope this puts things into perspective for you. How would you feel if a complete stranger was obsessing over you and then tried to dictate what you do/wear/believe based off of an image they made of you in their head. Creepy right?

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SoulOfABird
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posted August 16, 2021 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@spacecadet

Who are you and why is my post living in your head rent free?

Idk about anything you said but what I DO find creepy is how you keep coming back to my thread when I didn't even reply to you. And then post again like what lol

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SoulOfABird
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posted August 16, 2021 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SoulOfABird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by spacecadet42420:
I think there is a way bigger issue at hand if you’re going to the extent to make online posts acting as if your life is being effected or you’re going through an ending of a relationship, when you’ve never met this person or talked to them and never will. This is kinda disturbing. Like you’re upset about a necklace they were wearing and what their beliefs may or may not be as if you have any right to do so. They are their own person and they don’t even know you and if they did that still wouldn’t give you the right to pass judgement or do anything about it. This says a lot about your character if you were to be in an actual relationship. Like it is not okay to look at a celebrity and form a relationship with them in your head and then prepare yourself for a breakup because they did something you didn’t like. I hope this puts things into perspective for you. How would you feel if a complete stranger was obsessing over you and then tried to dictate what you do/wear/believe based off of an image they made of you in their head. Creepy right?

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Randall
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posted August 20, 2021 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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