posted August 13, 2021 11:59 PM            

Has anyone ever explored this? I may have asked long before now but we have differnt people here now. Many trying to mend inner wounding. This could be helpful.
I feel the houses certainly are more dimensional using this approach. As well we might understand ourselves in this time where
our "inner selves" are very much more sensitive.

Pls share your findings. It remainds me of Draconic charts. Layers underneath it all. The nude self - minus the fabrics bought to adorn the body. The honest self.

- The Fourth Ray -
Mine has asteric by it,
"your Sun Sign or Ascendant is Taurus, Scorpio, or *Sagittarius*, you are functioning on the FOURTH RAY OF HARMONY THROUGH CONFLICT. “The purpose of the Fourth Ray [is to be] an agent of balance. The Fourth Ray leads to that type of discrimination required for the life of the Soul and the way of service. It is thus the Ray of trial and error, so that we may move from the unreal to the real. The Fourth Ray is the energy behind what we may call ‘Divine Discontent’…. As the Ray of beauty and art, the Fourth Ray is also essentially the refiner—the urge for an ever-more-perfect representation of the Will of God in the many forms of Its expression…. The Fourth is the Ray of struggle, and those people who are especially connected to it will find a very special duality appearing in their lives…. As the Ray of the artist, the Fourth is especially connected to color. People who are closely associated with this Ray may find themselves with tremendous gifts.

Soul Level: The ‘Divine Artist’—one who seeks to raise humanity’s consciousness through the realization of the beauty and harmony existing in nature and in the world of forms; the mediator between heaven and earth, God and man; the Priest.

Personality Level: Ray of the mediator, interpreter, artist, and those healers whose treatments involve the harmonizing and balancing of the body’s energies and polarities—acupuncture, certain techniques of massage, color therapy.

General Positive Traits: Strong sense of equilibrium and symmetry; a poetic sensibility, especially about nature; imaginative and creative in the formation of one’s life-style; can sustain struggle and conflict until desired aims are achieved.

General Character Difficulties: Indolence, self-indulgence; may be overly passionate; may initiate conflicts unnecessarily; restlessness and a tendency to depression when goals cannot be accomplished. (Since the Fourth is very much a blend of Rays One & Two, when the energy of the First Ray of Will/Power is not in balance with the Second Ray, the resulting lack of direction for the expression of Will is clearly marked. This demonstrates as a poorly focused sense of personal orientation to life and a resultant lack of willpower.)

To Be Cultivated: Serenity, emotional balance, confidence, self-control, truth, clarity of purpose."

http://www.pathwaytoascension.com/sevenrays.html

- The Fifth Ray -
"your Sun Sign or Ascendant is Leo, *Sagittarius*, or *Aquariu*, you are functioning on the FIFTH RAY OF CONCRETE KNOWLEDGE. “The Fifth Ray is the expression of Love/Wisdom through the intellect. This occurs through scientific research and experimentation in order that the Plan of Divinity may be revealed through the mind of man…. It is the purpose of the Higher Mind to penetrate and purify the lower so that humanity may perceive, identify, and know the Mind of God behind all the forms of manifestation. This is the great work of the Fifth Ray.

As the sign of Aquarius is on the Fifth Ray and on no other, the scientist and researcher will lead the way into the esoteric realities in our time, and reveal through their work those metaphysical Laws and Principles which underlie the Ancient Wisdom Teachings.

[We are moving into the New Aquarian Age, thus the importance of this 5th Ray. LISTEN UP, ALL 5TH RAY PERSONS ] The more evolved of FIFTH RAY-influenced people will, through the scientific method, seek to prove the validity of metaphysical inquiry. The contributions they make to the well-being of society are limitless.

Soul Level: Those who work to be connecting links of intelligence between the abstract world of pure ideation and the concrete world of practical application; precision and exactitude in creating those forms and inventions which allow for the outpouring of Higher-Mind Intelligence.

Personality Level: Ray of the scientist, technician, lawyer, engineer, researcher, computer expert, and logician.

General Character Traits: Power to master a chosen field on expertise; detached observer in quest for truth; accuracy in speech; precise mental perceptions and vision for the application of knowledge; love of scientific inquiry.

General Character Difficulties: Lacking in compassion and sympathy; an overly narrow perspective; constant analysis and the splitting of hairs; pedantic; overemphasis on the form aspect of life; materialism; harsh criticism, mental pride, prejudice.

To Be Cultivated: Intellectual tolerance; devotion; active love, nurturing, reverence, and sympathy.”

- The Sixth Ray -
"Sun Sign or Ascendant is Virgo, *Sagittarius*, or Pisces, you are functioning on the SIXTH RAY OF DEVOTION & IDEALISM. “The Sixth has been the primary Ray of the Piscean Age—[the Age now ending]…. The religious creeds and ideals connected to martyrdom are still influential wherever the Sixth Ray energy predominates…. Terrorism, suicide, and all other urges for self-annihilation based on religious and/or philosophical idealism are very much under the influence of the Sixth Ray…. One finds in its expression those devotional qualities that keep families together, instill great and small philanthropic gestures, and denote such saintly people as Mother Teresa and St. Francis of Assisi…. The Sixth Ray is also the inspiring force of people for whom the principles of Love, Goodness, Purity of Heart, and Selflessness are living energies and form their way of life.

Soul Level: The urge to transform selfish and personal motivation into selfless, impersonal devotion for the good of all; the bringing about of circumstances which reorient the exclusive to the inclusive for the greater expression of Love/Wisdom.

Personality Level: Ray of the saint, martyr, evangelist/preacher, religious workers of all kinds, psychics, mediums, many kinds of healers, theologians, poets, etc.

General Positive Traits: Reverence and devotion; single-mindedness when attached to a cause; courage to fight for beliefs; love, tenderness, loyalty, sincerity, self-sacrifice.

General Character Difficulties: Fanaticism; blind devotion; bigotry and prejudice; exclusive attitudes; hero worship; overly dependent on others for emotional support.

To Be Cultivated: Tolerance; truth; common sense and practicality; flexibility to be supportive of other people’s views; balance of one’s feelings.”

[During the present transitional period, Earth is passing from the Piscean 6TH RAY Age ]

Note* That Sixth Ray is indicative as to why Sagittarius often gets the hatred it does, by the particular ones who are posting/commenting re the Sagittarius side in a very low vibratory way.

posted August 14, 2021 07:09 AM            

I have never done anything with the esoteric rulers. My Ascendant is in Libra with esoteric ruler Uranus in Scorpio H2. My Uranus is opposite my chart ruler Venus. Seems my natal chart is obsessed with the H2-H8 axis. Also funny that my draco ASC is in Aquarius. With my Moon in H11 it looks like something of a theme in my chart.

If your Sun Sign or Ascendant is Cancer, Libra, or Capricorn, you are functioning on the THIRD RAY OF ACTIVE INTELLIGENCE. “The energy of the Third Ray permeates into every form of life. The Third is the Active Intelligence of Divinity, and represents the inherent intelligence within all matter. All of humanity is strongly governed by the Third Ray…. The Ray of activity. People who are closely connected to the Third Ray are very much on the go.

Soul Level: The birthing of ideas to benefit humanity; the structuring of time and activities to allow for group energies to flourish; inherent, objective intelligence ready to be used in service to humanity in all ways.

Personality Level: Ray of the astrologer, scholar, judge, banker, economist, chess master, abstract thinker.

General Positive Traits: Adaptability, clear intellect, articulate speech, and ease in communicating ideas; business skills; ability to plan in advance in logical ways; a fine capacity not to worry oneself or others about insignificant matters.

General Character Difficulties: The tendency to be overly active and nervous; too much pride in one’s intellectual capabilities; selfishness through a sense of isolation; the manipulation of others, especially in terms of the use of other people’s resources; mind games; overly strong attachment to materialism.

To Be Cultivated: Tolerance, sympathy, devotion, accuracy in detail, open-mindedness to other people’s ideas.”

If your Sun Sign or Ascendant is Taurus, Scorpio, or Sagittarius, you are functioning on the FOURTH RAY OF HARMONY THROUGH CONFLICT. “The purpose of the Fourth Ray [is to be] an agent of balance. The Fourth Ray leads to that type of discrimination required for the life of the Soul and the way of service. It is thus the Ray of trial and error, so that we may move from the unreal to the real. The Fourth Ray is the energy behind what we may call ‘Divine Discontent’…. As the Ray of beauty and art, the Fourth Ray is also essentially the refiner—the urge for an ever-more-perfect representation of the Will of God in the many forms of Its expression…. The Fourth is the Ray of struggle, and those people who are especially connected to it will find a very special duality appearing in their lives…. As the Ray of the artist, the Fourth is especially connected to color. People who are closely associated with this Ray may find themselves with tremendous gifts.

Soul Level: The ‘Divine Artist’—one who seeks to raise humanity’s consciousness through the realization of the beauty and harmony existing in nature and in the world of forms; the mediator between heaven and earth, God and man; the Priest.

Personality Level: Ray of the mediator, interpreter, artist, and those healers whose treatments involve the harmonizing and balancing of the body’s energies and polarities—acupuncture, certain techniques of massage, color therapy.

General Positive Traits: Strong sense of equilibrium and symmetry; a poetic sensibility, especially about nature; imaginative and creative in the formation of one’s life-style; can sustain struggle and conflict until desired aims are achieved.

General Character Difficulties: Indolence, self-indulgence; may be overly passionate; may initiate conflicts unnecessarily; restlessness and a tendency to depression when goals cannot be accomplished. (Since the Fourth is very much a blend of Rays One & Two, when the energy of the First Ray of Will/Power is not in balance with the Second Ray, the resulting lack of direction for the expression of Will is clearly marked. This demonstrates as a poorly focused sense of personal orientation to life and a resultant lack of willpower.)

To Be Cultivated: Serenity, emotional balance, confidence, self-control, truth, clarity of purpose.

EDIT:
Note* That Sixth Ray is indicative as to why Sagittarius often gets the hatred it does, by the particular ones who are posting/commenting re the Sagittarius side in a very low vibratory way.

That weird discussion really makes me want to bite someone's head off. I guess that's the Fourth Ray, harmony through conflict. I need to learn self control and obviously the strength of repeating the same message over and over again...

posted August 14, 2021 01:20 PM            

After giving it a good, open minded chance over a couple of years, I came to the eventual conclusion that it wasn't the most helpful nor accurate information in the world.

Ms Bailey was a wealthy socialite who had a lot of free time on her hands. She claimed to be in telepathic communion with a Tibetan Master/enlightened being, and that the info came direct from him as if she was a pure/clear channel.

Don't know about you, but the experiences I've had with telepathy and communicating with guidance doesn't quite work that way. The faster vibrational the guidance source is, the harder it is to clearly and accurately perceive it because of the difference in vibrational rates. i.e. being connected to a dense, slow vibratory, physicalized body, really tends to damp down and distort that connection.

I've spent much of my life learning to go within and listen better, and when I communicate with the truly Universal Forces (i.e. the Co-Creators who are fully conscious of their Oneness with the Whole and Source), when it comes to specific information, I only get little bits here and there at a time. It is NOT like having a verbal conversation with your next door neighbor over the fence (boy, how I wish it was!).

And mind you, when I was 4, I was talking about the importance of caring about and loving everyone in the world and was universal empathy incarnate at the time, and I started to meditate when I was 13 and asking the deepest questions of life then. In some ways, you could say I was on an accelerated path, that was also catalyzed by some very intense suffering.

Anyways, more specifically, there is very little holistic logic in her astrological teachings. One of the few examples that I can think of that actually makes some sense, is saying that Mercury is the esoteric ruler of Aries. But then again, one doesn't really need an "esoteric ruler" to understand that Aries is the Sign that rules/corresponds to the "head", and that the head clearly has a correlation with the intellect, and that Mercury is also very strongly connected to that more left brain intellect part of us. Hence, there is a loose and indirect correlation there.

And indeed, I have noticed that a percentage of people with strong Aries (especially Sun, Rising, and/or Mercury in), do tend to be rather smart cookies, and this is a side of Aries that is not often talked about.

But other than that, most of the rest sounds like someone making up stuff to sound very high information, spiritual, and all mysterious (what I call Uranus and/or Neptune "gone wrong" and uncentered). That's what draws some people in to such types of info. (i.e. this is "different", and of an exalted or super mysterious nature, etc).

The thing is, is that truth is always logical. That is because we live in a cause and effect reality. While correlation doesn't always equate to causation, many times there is definitely a connection, and once you truly understand something, then you see the logic and connections there.

She also says some rather interesting things about Jews and so called primitive/indigenous peoples. She was clearly influenced by some prevailing sentiments of high, white-Euro society at the time (i.e. prejudices). Thing is, Masters go beyond that kind of stuff, their truth and perception is timeless and always accurate in a bigger picture way, and yet we find definite earlier 20th century prejudices bleeding in (and prejudices specifically of wealthy, upper-class non Jewish whites of the time).

Btw, I'm not saying that all the information is useless or completely inaccurate! We all have a guidance system and team that we can learn to communicate with. You don't need to be connected to an exotic "Tibetan Master" to get good info from guides and helpers spiritually.

But, do I think that she literally could and did stream through info completely clearly from a Tibetan Master in a super conscious telepathic way...? Hmm, probably not so much. But did she occasionally tap in intuitively and interpret some data more or less accurately. Quite possibly at times.

Edgar Cayce was told that the reason why he had to be unconscious to do what he did, was because there was not enough balance nor attunement of his physical body and personality level to that of the spiritual and pure Love, to be able to commune that in depth, clearly, and accurately with guidance as he did. He had to lay aside his conscious, personality mind, because it would have interfered too much in the process and/or would have distorted the information too much.

Cayce was not a "young Soul" by any means.

posted August 14, 2021 01:26 PM            

I remember an EC reading where someone asks his source about their ray, and the guidance answered succinctly (not exact quote), "YOU make the ray. Don't think that a ray carries you along."

Meaning, we shift up and down the vibrational consciousness spectrum as we use and change freewill choices. It is a fluid, dynamic system.