posted August 22, 2021 12:48 AM            

The symbol of Pisces –two fishes swimming in opposite directions – is an apt description of a basic human double bind: one fish is swimming toward individuality, while the other swims towards universality. One part of us struggles to form and maintain a separate and discrete ego-identity, while another part yearns to transcend that separateness to merge with the larger whole again.

This article is a real GOOOD read!

Thoughts? or share Favorite parts of this article that really speak to you.

Loved "This is why the spiritual motto of Pisces is “serve or suffer.” The choice is there and it is one or the other. There is no other way."

posted August 22, 2021 02:30 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
I tried clicking on the link. At first, my browser blocked it, but then I got brought to an article called the "Astrology of Unusual Accidents". It did mention Pisces, but only in the context of all the mutable Signs.

Is the same article that you were talking about and trying to link to?

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posted August 22, 2021 09:13 PM            

Moonmystic I encourage you to check out the updated link, it really goes to the core of pisces.

On your comment about survival I think it connects with some points in the article around pisces being in the middle of ARIES and Aquarius so your survival mechanism will be either to blend in with the masses and go along with the group (e.g. group think) and not stick out or you will do your own thing and be fiercely independent, e.g. independent thinker). I lean more towards swimming upwards against the current since Jupiter in the 12th rules my chart and neptune conjuncts my AC so my pisces theme is colored by aries/1st house.

posted August 22, 2021 09:41 PM            

Half through it maybe. It is a beautiful compilation of the cultural views on the fish sign. I am like you probably Hypatia, as we share some of those concepts in our natals.

posted August 22, 2021 10:03 PM            

I do feel like balancing two opposite energies in me has been a big theme in my life.

posted August 22, 2021 10:52 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
^ Yes! I was going to say "shadow" side. I almost did as Pisces rules our closets.

Half through it maybe. It is a beautiful compilation of the cultural views on the fish sign. I am like you probably Hypatia, as we share some of those concepts in our natals.

My Neptune is closest to my AC and the home house for me is Piscean. I feel very Neptunian in nature. When people who know me well align me to mythical creatures it's 30% Fae (which my Air is that energy) but the Mermaid is most often used. I think my Pisces being in 4th (a water house) with my NN there - in Jupiter's (my chart ruler) decan, it points me to Pisces being an intricate part within me.

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posted August 22, 2021 10:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Asjah:
Very interesting to read, I do have to say I fight a lot with what it was saying. Being independent or part of the whole. I lean more toward independence myself, I'm a bit of a loner. There is a side of me that knows how to fit into a crowd, become practically invisible and I definitely prefer that to standing out. But I also have tattoos, which basically makes it impossible to not stand out.

I do feel like balancing two opposite energies in me has been a big theme in my life.

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posted August 23, 2021 06:03 PM              

One of them stood out to me in particular: "In the Pisces constellation there are two fish swimming in opposite directions; one swims upstream while the other one swims downstream, and they are tied together with a single cord. In Pisces there is always a choice between opposites, whether to follow the high road, or to go with the current or swim against it, or to express the negative charge or the more divine, positive charge. It also suggests a need to reconcile and integrate both the material and ethereal worlds into one.

Planets and Possibilities: Explore the World of the Zodiac Beyond Just Your Sign"

Re: the highlighted part, this process first starts to take place in Capricornus, which one of the oldest symbols for same, is the odd creature with the top half of a goat and bottom half of a...fish.

In Capricorn, the Soul is trying to ground Heaven down into Earth (or merge the upper, faster vibratory centers with the lower, slower vibratory centers, to unveil the Clear/White Light). Pisces potentially finishes up that process started in Capricorn.

posted August 23, 2021 06:15 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I can definitely see pisces is strong for you, you have deep compassion for others, are accepting and open minded, and very intuitive, you are also comfortable exploring your shadow side and own duality.

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Thank you Hypatia. I try (NN) but sometimes it is a challenge. The many views of the fish glyphs really differs by cultures.

posted August 24, 2021 03:41 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:

In Capricorn, the Soul is trying to ground Heaven down into Earth (or merge the upper, faster vibratory centers with the lower, slower vibratory centers, to unveil the Clear/White Light). Pisces potentially finishes up that process started in Capricorn.

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This got me thinking of the MC and IC, as above so below. We have Capricorn/MC on top representing the future or heaven, were we are headed and Cancer/IC on the bottom representing the past and our roots, were we have been, the midpoint is Aries/AC which is NOW, the present and Action, breath, being alive engaged, moving, being.

posted August 24, 2021 04:29 AM            

What stood out to me was this - "In Pisces, one fish swims downstream representing the personality, the other fish swimming upstream represents the soul. Either the soul captures the personality and it becomes the servant, or the soul is bound and made captive by the personality. This brings deep suffering in the people born in Pisces."

I've strong Neptune/Pisces traits in my chart (Planets in 12H, Pisces Mars and Neptune in an angular house aspecting Moon/Venus/Mars). I possess both great strength and weakness within me. I can be weak towards feelings/ affairs of the heart (I cannot resist helping people), yet I can cut people off like I don't give a damn, and I truly don't, not even pretending. Neptunians can stand up to a lot of adversity yet we can also self-pity and sink into self-destructive mode. It depends on whether we let our souls or personality take over. Neptunians are capable of great enlightenment and that's when we will realise our inner strength. A stereotype of Neptunians is that we're addicts but I can tell you that many of us are not. I've never been addicted (at least not for long) to anything in my life.

It also reminded me of a book I read recently regarding astrology and karma. The writer said we have to live our soul purpose or we will just be caught in a karmic cycle. Don't quote me because I can't remember the exact words, only the take-home message.

posted August 24, 2021 11:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Hypatia, thanks for sharing the article. It took me 3 attempts to finish reading it because it was so long, lol.

What stood out to me was this - [b]"In Pisces, one fish swims downstream representing the personality, the other fish swimming upstream represents the soul. Either the soul captures the personality and it becomes the servant, or the soul is bound and made captive by the personality. This brings deep suffering in the people born in Pisces."

I've strong Neptune/Pisces traits in my chart (Planets in 12H, Pisces Mars and Neptune in an angular house aspecting Moon/Venus/Mars). I possess both great strength and weakness within me. I can be weak towards feelings/ affairs of the heart (I cannot resist helping people), yet I can cut people off like I don't give a damn, and I truly don't, not even pretending. Neptunians can stand up to a lot of adversity yet we can also self-pity and sink into self-destructive mode. It depends on whether we let our souls or personality take over. Neptunians are capable of great enlightenment and that's when we will realise our inner strength. A stereotype of Neptunians is that we're addicts but I can tell you that many of us are not. I've never been addicted (at least not for long) to anything in my life.

It also reminded me of a book I read recently regarding astrology and karma. The writer said we have to live our soul purpose or we will just be caught in a karmic cycle. Don't quote me because I can't remember the exact words, only the take-home message.

In the other thread someone said there are all kinds of fishes in this world. Some are deadly. I resonated with that. We can be a cute little Nemo or a Great White (haha) but we truly just want to give and receive love. That will make us happiest. I would advise all Neptunians to focus on soul development... Engage in spirituality... because it will help us so much. ❤️[/B]

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Well addiction is not just alcoholism or substance abuse, it can show up in ways you are not aware of including love addiction, sex addiction, addiction to religion or the occult even, addiction to food or excirse, to thrill seeking, to drama, to working...

posted August 24, 2021 11:29 AM            

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I don't ever feel pushed or pulled in this or that direction. For me the Pisces symbol represents the eternal connectedness of God and Man. God expresses himself through Man and Man expresses himself through God. In an infinite dance of celebrating life and honoring love...

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posted August 24, 2021 12:02 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Well addiction is not just alcoholism or substance abuse, it can show up in ways you are not aware of including love addiction, sex addiction, addiction to religion or the occult even, addiction to food or excirse, to thrill seeking, to drama, to working...

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I was referring to all kinds of addiction. I’ve never been addicted for long to anything in my life. I move on from one thing to another, go through many phases in my life.

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That quote refers to overattachment to our personality and individuality/earth versus overattachment to our soul that wants to become one with everything and has not developed its identity enough. The duality of it, how pisces swims between these two opposing forces. Like developing an ego versus dissolving the ego, swimming towards aries versus aquarius but the idea is finding that balance, you need some ego but also that humility and awareness you are part of this bigger whole.

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posted August 24, 2021 12:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
We can’t possibly have 0 ego. What are we if we have none of it? What I mean is finding the purpose of our life, not just for others, but also for ourselves. Like you said it’s finding the balance. If these people are not serving our soul purpose, why do we keep them in our lives? When you find your soul purpose everything falls into place.

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I believe you but is also common to transfer one process addiction to another, not saying that is your case. I just overall feel since we have a reward system and dopamine that everyone has addictive tendencies or has had them at some point in their life but this is just my opinion

posted August 24, 2021 12:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
We can’t possibly have 0 ego. What are we if we have none of it? What I mean is finding the purpose of our life, not just for others, but also for ourselves. Like you said it’s finding the balance. If these people are not serving our soul purpose, why do we keep them in our lives? When you find your soul purpose everything falls into place.

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posted August 25, 2021 01:37 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I believe you but is also common to transfer one process addiction to another, not saying that is your case. I just overall feel since we have a reward system and dopamine that everyone has addictive tendencies or has had them at some point in their life but this is just my opinion

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posted August 25, 2021 03:10 AM              

And for those Souls that came in direct from the nonphysical dimension that Neptune symbolizes, this is the dimension of the contemplatives, quiet ones, and mystics.

Or to put it another way. After the Soul has been through the various other, slower vibratory stages/levels, and has come to a point where it has served for awhile in things like acting as guidance, in retrieving stuck souls, etc, it becomes aware of an important choice.

It can stay in this system and continue its service, or, it can get ready to go into a more expanded and fast vibratory system.

This is not an easy nor light choice to make.

And so for a period, the Soul shuts out all outside activity and awareness, and goes DEEP, DEEP within to contact it's own Source nature and innermost guidance, as much as is possible for that Soul. It is both a rest/pause, and a turning within.

It is the nonphysical equivalent of a person going into a very deep, silent, completely still meditation for an extended period of time. But in the nonphysical, it is far more intense than meditation is for those connected to a body.

Imagine going from that dimension/consciousness to the physical with it's cacophony of noise and inharmony and disconnectedness from Love and Source?

This is not easy for such Souls to handle since it is such a contrast, and so they are especially prone to escapism from themselves and from the harsh physical energies.

If Neptunians handle their physical life relatively well and constructively, then when they go back into the nonphysical, they go to the level/dimension of Jupiter, that of guidance that has been around the block and the "last timers". The Jupiter dimension has some of the deep attunement of the Neptunian, but it is more active, outer, and service oriented.

The next level/dimension after Jupiter, is that of the Sun. It is in this consciousness/dimension/level that the Soul fully rejoins, in a fully conscious way, with its Expanded self and becomes what some might call an "earth life graduate"

Then that call and choice that was first glimpsed in the Neptune dimension i.e. that of the choice to stay and serve in this system, or move onto other greater, more expanded, and faster vibratory systems, becomes an actuality.

If the Soul decides to do the latter, then it goes to the dimension that correlates with Arcturus. Arcturus is like the Sun, but amplified and purified even more. It is also a meeting point between MANY different systems and their guidance Souls and groups, which all communicate with each other in this level.

It's sort of like a nonphysical equivalent of all the wisest and most intune people from around the globe, all getting together in one room, sharing ideas, experiences, spiritual truths, etc. By its very nature, it is extremely universal, harmonious, and connected in nature.

At this level, one is not too far away from the core of Source i.e. the fastest vibratory consciousness/level there is, where we fully wake up from our self imposed slumber.

There are those of us who have gone to Arcturus and to other systems, and who have come back here to serve. And very, very, very occasionally, there are those of us who have gone to the core of Source to become a full companion and Co-Creator, and who have come back here.

Such a one was Yeshua, and the one that Yeshua prophesied about, and said that he would request from his Abba that another redeemer of the accursed like him, would come from the Abba (like he did) to humans to finish up what Yeshua had started, and that Yeshua would speak to humans through this person who also came from Source like he had.

posted September 06, 2021 01:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Haha, yes, if you look at it this way. And in this case, everyone has addiction tendency and have been addicted to something, not just Neptunians. Not sure why Neptunians are always the ones being called out then? 🤷🏻‍♀️ I guess it’s the Gemini in me…I never stay interested in one thing for long.

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posted September 06, 2021 01:33 PM            

What a Pisces Wants You to Understand

A Pisces doesn't care what you think of them or how they look to you.
They don't care that you think they are crazy. They don't care that you think they are delusional. They don’t care what their past looks like to you. They don't care that you think they are multifaceted. They proudly own up to who they are and don't need approval or validation.
They know what they did and didn’t do, and they take full responsibility for the things they’ve done. Whatever a Pisces did in the past, they did it because they wanted to and that is something between them and God. A Pisces has no reason to explain to any human being what they’ve done, and why they did it.