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mee_chryssa
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posted October 08, 2021 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do other aspects from Moon or Pluto to other planets could help this opposition?

I have it in the natal chart and I guess is the main reason for my depression, avoidance of emotional exposure, or anxiety disorder.

I also have Moon sextile Sun/Chiron, trine Uranus/Neptune/North Node, and a wide 10 degrees trine with Saturn which I still feel it because the description I saw online said that parents were asking the child to be responsible, which happened to me being the first child born.

Pluto is sextile Neptune/Uranus, a wide trine to Sun and close one to South Node and Chiron.

Even with all these aspects, it still takes me to the rabbit hole where I feel deeply everything that happens to me.

I am a Leo ASC so the opposition takes place with Pluto in the 4th house and Moon in the 10th.

Is there something that I can do, to concentrate to other energies to solve it, except therapy?

The only good thing about this opposition is that it makes me really aware of the fact that we do our own reality and that the pain from Pluto is something that is not in the present, but we bring it in our everyday life. Until I learn to let it go and trust people.

right now, transiting pluto is making a trine to my moon and it made me to express my feelings more, which was so foreign to me.

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posted October 09, 2021 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recall this opposition (by transits). It was just a series of intense emotional ups and downs.

If one has a latent neurological condition or psychological challenge, then this transit can certainly exacerbate it and bring it to the surface to a point where it cannot be denied.

Stomach upsets, excessive nervousness and the inability to sleep because of anxiety etc. Characterised much of this transit experience. I so wanted calm and peace.

First, you need to make peace with the fact that it'll come and it'll go. You will be fine and then you will not be. And that's just the way the cookie will crumble for a while.

In those times where your sanity does return,milk it for all it's worth. Build strong positive feelings of inner peace and calm. For me that meant listening to classical music and staying away from any information or social media that will trigger extreme emotional reactions. At that time, I couldn't even watch the National Geographic channel without getting emotional about a Whale on its final phase of life.

I did my best to be gentle with myself and I can't imagine what it's like for someone who has this as their Natal position. I can only empathize and say that very few people will know what it's like to be in your shoes. And perhaps they are not supposed to?🤷🏿‍♂️

That is the challenge with this aspect. As it can awaken you to increased sensitivity around others and being able to read underlying currents -especially when it comes to things that they are trying to hide from themselves or are oblivious too.

Like Neptune, drawing boundaries is very important. So if you sense someone in emotional distress(even though externally they appear "fine") offer your assistance ONLY when it does not compromise your own stability in tje process.

Also stay away from any situations that may lead you into an emotional bottleneck i.e.

*if you can leave early for work just to prepare for the day in advance before others arrive. Do it.


*If you can work at home and avoid being in the company of your colleagues with all their office politics and Drama. Do it.

*If you can avoid that dreaded family dinner that you know will surface all sorts of antagonistic issues in others as well as yourself. Make up an excuse and avoid that.

In short, do whatever you can to protect yourself from emotional vampires or situations where you will feel yourself emotionally drained and controlled by external circumstances always dictating how you "should" be feeling about the situation and leaving you in a tailspin with regards to your own sense of inner sanity and peace.

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mee_chryssa
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posted October 09, 2021 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you! I try to avoid this kind of things, but it happens to find them anyway, even when I don't look for them. It does come and go, but when it comes, it seems like it will never end.

I don't know if it's somethings wrong with feeling this deeply. All I find there when I get into that state, is deep sadness, everything closes around me, I cry like I'm never going to get back. When I get back to the Moon, being stable and happy, I'm really happy and joyful. It goes to extreme emotional states, I don't know the steps between these two extremes, it's either one or the other.

These aspects can get solved in a way that it doesn't go that far?

The worst thing is not even the extremes, but the lack of honesty and telling people I care about them or love them. Instead of expressing my feelings, I keep them for myself out of fear of being hurt, which in the end, people hurt "me" because they think that I don't feel anything for them.

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posted October 17, 2021 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Kannon McAfee
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posted October 18, 2021 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mee_chryssa,

You need outlets for your emotive energies that are constructive and healthy. But also the self-awareness to know what your fears are and how to let them go. Moon opposite Pluto indicates your internal balance is upset by trauma (even of past lifetimes) or something urgent pulling you away from your inner self.

I recommend imaginative and creative energies + outlets for your physical energies that will balance your circulation and body fluids.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted October 20, 2021 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Do other aspects from Moon or Pluto to other planets could help this opposition?

I have it in the natal chart and I guess is the main reason for my depression, avoidance of emotional exposure, or anxiety disorder.

I also have Moon sextile Sun/Chiron, trine Uranus/Neptune/North Node, and a wide 10 degrees trine with Saturn


Yes, those kinds of aspects show that you've got the inner abilities and default tendency to move towards balance, healing, creativity, stability.

I'm still developing my perception of these challenging aspects between Moon & Pluto. What I said above probably applies as much or more to Moon square Pluto. There is the I-thou dynamic with the opposition that means it will come up in your relationships, which will have a tendency to intensify your emotions in some ways that can be uncomfortable. That can produce a need for boundaries to be set distinctly with some people.

Moon: personal needs, receptiveness, feelings.
opposition: tension dynamic seeking balance, often via relations with others.
Pluto: empowerment, intensity, unconscious.

People with Moon opposite Pluto have a tendency to withdraw from others, even isolate at times, so they can process their feelings without more constantly being triggered by others. You could also see it as a (subconscious) effort to shrink the emotive environment so as to let the subconscious processing bring things more gently into their awareness.

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posted October 25, 2021 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Close to the mother but hard relationship and off and on. Also, your own emotions can be too intense, at times, and then you can pull back from emotions due to their intensity. Then, the cycle starts again. May have these kinds of relationships with women, in general, too.

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mee_chryssa
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posted October 27, 2021 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Close to the mother but hard relationship and off and on. Also, your own emotions can be too intense, at times, and then you can pull back from emotions due to their intensity. Then, the cycle starts again. May have these kinds of relationships with women, in general, too.


Yes, I have a problem with women, I never trusted them. They always lied to me, used me , I didn't have a good relationship with them. I mostly have male friends and I always trust them, until someone becomes my boy friend and then my trust issues surface, but mostly I trust them. That's because I had a difficult relationship with my mother, I still have. She always uses manipulative ways to make me do something with blaming, comparing, putting a lot of pressure on me and not accepting me as I am. She's a controlling. Didn't have any privacy. She still looks into my stuff, as she did while I was a child. The good thing is that my parents divorced when I was 12 years old and she didn't treat me like that full-time because she wasn't around, but she still does it when she can.

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mee_chryssa
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posted October 27, 2021 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
mee_chryssa,

You need outlets for your emotive energies that are constructive and healthy. But also the self-awareness to know what your fears are and how to let them go. Moon opposite Pluto indicates your internal balance is upset by trauma (even of past lifetimes) or something urgent pulling you away from your inner self.

I recommend imaginative and creative energies + outlets for your physical energies that will balance your circulation and body fluids.


Yes, I've found that music helps me a lot to get through the times when I get into that state. If I play the guitar or just composing music, it helps me a lot, and usually, helps me compose. But I guess it's because of those trines to Uranus/Neptune and because I'm a Pisces.

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