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charlie
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posted October 25, 2021 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, this is NOT a fun transit for someone like me or someone in my situation!! Handled tPluto on Sun/Moon/Mercury real swell and then? BOOM!
Marriage is on the rocks and universe is literally presenting me with men everywhere. Like on a silver plate! Think I’m being asked to:
1) work on marriage OR
2) end it, with dignity. Latter has never been my forte because I’ve just upped and left, only to find someone new days/weeks later.

The transit is not even exact yet (Venus at 25,24) and I’ve felt it for many months!

Work work work is the savior..

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Aries23Degrees
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posted October 25, 2021 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you find yourself attracting lovers with psychological issues/hangups?

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posted October 25, 2021 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First conjunction was January, second in August, and third end of November. Hang in there. I’ve read that the third transit is the strongest and the most likely to cause an event.

I dropkicked (read: departed) the person I was seeing who has his Venus at 25° Cap because he was behaving toxic (and cowardly). don’t quote

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posted October 26, 2021 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Do you find yourself attracting lovers with psychological issues/hangups?

No, not really. I don't think..

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posted October 27, 2021 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
No, not really. I don't think..

Interesting. This because Pluto tends to dig deep. So lovers tend to want more than just "wham bam thank you mam".

There are usually lingering feelings-due in part to the awesome momentum of Plu. And these feelings are mixed in with psychological hangups that could be easily triggered. That was my experience- even with the sextile.

Maybe there are abandonment issues that have not been dealt with? And then those surface when a prospective interest says "no"? Or doesn't entertain advances?

Sometimes it could mean that this is your response to others? I am starting to see certain issues crop up in my relations with others with thwse transits.

Trans Mars/Pluto is conj/square natal Pluto in the 7th currently. Just the other day I had a conversation with an acquaintance about their 4 year engagement.

I spoke quite candidly that it didnt make sense to me to be engaged to someone for 4 years. Its either you want someone OR you don't. Why be attached to them for 4 years and not seal the deal?

What do you think will occur from here onward that hasn't already occurred to make you more certain of your decison?

Suffice it to say, the respondent did not take it well. He went on the defensive and talked about "not being ready". I continued to probe still( blissfully unaware of his growing agitation).

I told him that I think he likes the idea of flaunting his engagement ring to would-be interested parties so as to say "na na na na na na. You can't have me.😜" Etc. Meanwhile the person he is engaged to, can't have him wholly either .🤷🏿‍♂️

It turned nasty. I didn't realize that I had spoken too flippantly.The convo was quite interrogative in nature.And I thought we were conversing without filters. This was not so.

Pluto has a momentum that tends to turn things inside out. And its not always conscious. Sometimes you think you are "conversing". When in actuality (to the other person) it feela like "the Spanish inquisition".🙆🏿‍♂️

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charlie
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posted October 27, 2021 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries23: it’s interesting you mention abandoning issues. I have had problems with this. Not sure where it comes from but I vaguely recall that it started around age 15 or thereabouts. I was working part time then and had an older friend I worked with. She was miserable and wanted to change jobs but I did everything in my power to make her stay; and she did. Those issues have lingered well into my 40s albeit better now (with medication) but it’s still there.
This doesn’t happen with all people but I can kinda see a “red thread” with Aries and Libra. They hit my natal Pluto which is square Sun and Moon.

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posted October 27, 2021 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angryant2021     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am going through tPluto on my Sun(24) and Venus(23) as well. I had the biggest fight with my then bf sometime in the summer, then ended the 6 year relationship months later. A month after that when jupiter was also conjunct sun, I met someone who made me very crazy infatuated, felt karmic. 7 months later am now in a committed relationship that feels like its going somewhere? I hope.

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posted October 27, 2021 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think Pluto is my friend. I went through the transit sq Sun, that was torture and I liked it. lol I can be timid and this gave me a push, more like shove off the cliff

Mars conjunction was torture too but it also helped me end things - I'm beginning to think I have a tendency to be in denial with the relationships with people, I can't let go.

But the sq Venus is a doozy. I think this one is the winner so far. I get strong reaction from people even if I ask was for a coffee. I probably have some heavy intense energy aura that threaten people. People were also trying to manipulate me and other ways. It shackled me to open my eyes people can be sneaky and ruthless. I didn't want to see that and pretend everything is lala and fairies. Pluto present me anxiety I can't get rid of as of late.

Charlie, do you notice you attract people who has Pluto in their 7th or aspect to Venus, or in synastry with V/P? Maybe composite? Or their transits? That was the pattern for me. During those times. It's also doing the same thing right now because tPluto is at the midpoint of my Venus oppose Moon.

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posted October 27, 2021 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries23Degrees that was intense! Pluto is something. Nothing like the Uranus transits

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posted October 27, 2021 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
I don't think Pluto is my friend. I went through the transit sq Sun, that was torture and I liked it. lol I can be timid and this gave me a push, more like shove off the cliff

Mars conjunction was torture too but it also helped me end things - I'm beginning to think I have a tendency to be in denial with the relationships with people, I can't let go.

But the sq Venus is a doozy. I think this one is the winner so far. I get strong reaction from people even if I ask was for a coffee. I probably have some heavy intense energy aura that threaten people. People were also trying to manipulate me and other ways. It shackled me to open my eyes people can be sneaky and ruthless. I didn't want to see that and pretend everything is lala and fairies. Pluto present me anxiety I can't get rid of as of late.

Charlie, do you notice you attract people who has Pluto in their 7th or aspect to Venus, or in synastry with V/P? Maybe composite? Or their transits? That was the pattern for me. During those times. It's also doing the same thing right now because tPluto is at the midpoint of my Venus oppose Moon.


There's not really alot of Pluto/Venus that stands out but there is Pluto/Sun, Pluto/Moon and Pluto/Mercury so yeah, Pluto..and I'm never the Pluto.

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posted October 27, 2021 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manymoones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have lots of Cap placements, so since Pluto has been in Cap I’ve had it conjunct my Sun, Uranus, and Neptune.

It is currently conjunct Saturn, Venus, and North Node.

Aquarius rising so will eventually be on my rising which will also oppose Moon/Jupiter.

I am trying to read up on Pluto transits since I’m experiencing a lot of conjunctions. I don’t know though, Pluto eludes me. It leaves me at a loss for words. It’s easy to say there has been a lot of change in my life, but if the only constant is change, then it’s hard to pin on Pluto

I have Saturn at 26 Cap and Venus at 27 Cap. My best guess for Pluto/Venus-specific issues would be my husband and I want to move, but we don’t know where we want to move to. We have gotten closer but it’s still a major uncertainty. Another relationship issue is when / if we want to expand our family.

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posted October 27, 2021 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like Pluto is testing ya ^_^''. I don't know why, your #2 sounds like me. I, this year, need to work on that and you know what I discovered? I got trust issues and some issues tied to my past that describes my behavioral patterns with relationships. My partner had been very helpful working this out with me and his honesty of pointing things out helps too reacting helps. So it makes the relationship worth it.

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posted October 29, 2021 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
Aries23Degrees that was intense! Pluto is something. Nothing like the Uranus transits

It certainly is. And when on the receiving end(7th), it can feel like you are being "confronted". Like someone is trying to 'expose' you as a fake etc.

I think when affecting the Asc, you are rhe "interrogator". And in the 7th, you are the one being interrogated.🤷🏿‍♂️

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posted October 30, 2021 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I see it, the purpose in the transit of Pluto opposite (or contra-parallel) natal Venus is:
- to ignite our desire nature
- to boost our sense of attraction / attractiveness
- to (re)engage us in the emotive sensual world
- to spur creative impulses to mold and beautify something
- to reveal where/how we may be sensually or relationally disatisfied and motivate us to resolve it

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posted October 30, 2021 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
As I see it, the purpose in the transit of Pluto opposite (or contra-parallel) natal Venus is:
- to ignite our desire nature
Yes
- to boost our sense of attraction / attractiveness
Yes
- to (re)engage us in the emotive sensual world
Oh yes
- to spur creative impulses to mold and beautify something
?
- to reveal where/how we may be sensually or relationally disatisfied and motivate us to resolve it
YES and trying to make sense of it


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