posted November 28, 2021 09:38 PM            

I deal with this from my sister in law, but as far as I am aware she has no Gemini in her chart. My mother in law likes me. But my mother in law is a bossy Aries. So she forces my sister in law to do nice things for me. But it is so obvious she doesn't like doing these things, and resents it. Her face, her tone. Everyone just decides to look the other way to it.

My sister in law is a Scorpio. She acts very insecure when other people in the family pay attention to me. She will attempt to discredit me, one up me, or be like me too....or just straight up roll her eyes.

Oh and my husband has high functioning Asperger's, and it is kiiind of just her personality. But I had to be like "yo! ya think you can stick up for me Husband!??" Husband will be like, "she talks **** about you when you are not around, but she likes you" ....Riiiiiiiight!

Once I was engaged to husband I had a lot more balls to be like "your families **** stinks!"

Once she was rude to me at my wedding rehearsal all bets were off.
I'll give you an actual reason to hate me now, if you are going to be such a hater. And I do, and it's fun to low key phuck w/ her.
I'll give my husband pda in front of her...she wants me to be self conscience about it. When she wants me to feel bad about leaving behind a water bottle I'll say "thhhank you!!!" instead of being like "oh sorry!"

Maybe you'd rather turn the other cheek but it can be fun to mess with someone who knows they can't get away with taking it too far since it will make their parent's sad.

It really is like some real sibling stuff. I taught my older sister it's better to be on my good side, and now we are like besties. Maybe in time she'll learn that too.

Oddly I have Aries Sun and Scorpio Moon and she has Scorpio Sun, Aries Moon.

Her Scorpio Sun makes her jealous, and her Aries Moon makes her emotionally selfish...not a great comination...in my opinion. It makes no sense to me to be so upset over having another girl your age be a part of your family...and how is my existence being validated so threatening to her? You are their actual bloodline. How am I such a threat....I will be now if I'm just going to get treated like one. LOL

What's your sun sign by the way?

Also she has Mercury Scorpio....and I have Mercury Taurus. I've read that Scorpios and Taurus can never be anything in between with love and hate. It seems super accurate. I really tried just being civil neutral small talk etc. She crossed the line way too bad with me once I got engaged. (this is after eye rolls, yelling, feeling the need to "one up" me.)

Ohhhh I should probably mention I am a Gemini rising.

I hope I am not derailing the topic too much. But I relate a lot to that doing things they don't mean because of their parent's expectations.

posted November 28, 2021 11:04 PM            

But one of my Gemini co-workers can be a bit deliberately one-uppy with me. Like why. Other people think she is stuck up. She is in the early degrees of Gemini so I'm sure it squares my Venus Pisces. She will do important stuff with out telling me when I go on a vacation.

My friend with Gemini moon is 4 yrs older than me. When I turned 24, I let her know she couldn't talk to me a certain way anymore. I'm closer to her younger sister's age you see. I basically told her my money is none of her business, when she told me I couldn't afford to get knocked up.

My husband is a Gemini Moon.

posted November 29, 2021 09:07 AM            

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posted November 29, 2021 09:23 AM            

And bullies tend to be bullies to some extent with most, unless they are around someone that they fear or "respect".

Bullies quite often are on or near NPD or ASPD spectrum's.

posted November 29, 2021 10:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
A Gemini is not usually a bully. If you find a Gemini bully, I would say this. There is something else going on in his chart to make him a bully and/or YOU and he have something that makes him bully you, such as his Nessus conjunct your Sun.

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Gemini is the twin, two faces, second energy being living in one body. There can be a good twin, a bad twin, two good twins, or just two bad twins. Usually one hides the other.

In someone with psychological issues it can even point to DID (dissociative identity disorder/multiple personality).

In any event, they can most certainly be bullies and if anything, can potentially be the most covert because people tend to not suspect them because the twin can sleep and/or only come out at certain times.

This is also why Gemini can be the "double agent", and can even be known as a trickster or prankster.

They also tend to detest being accused of being a bully and will often to use their mental prowess and their gift of gab to very eloquently convince people otherwise and deny it at all costs. The other twin doesn't like to be caught.

posted November 29, 2021 11:53 AM            

We have a consciousness continuum spectrum that goes from complete lack of attunement to divine Love i.e. extreme ego/fear/separative selfishness to pure Love. Or comparing a hard core psychopath to Yeshua--who was as love personified as a human could become.

Most of us fall somewhere in the middle of that spectrum (nor is it static, we do move up and down the scale a bit here and there depending). However, the closer someone is the severe lack of Love side of the spectrum, the more likely they are to express bullying towards others. Bullying takes a real lack of empathy and conscience, but a highly separative and selfish attunement.

Signs have very, very little to do with correlating to these consciousness levels--that's almost all contained within a holistic treatment of the Planets. I've talked about Bruce Moen before, who was an Aries Sun, and while Aries is notoriously self centered on average, but he had Neptune Rising in his chart and that far better described him a deeper and core level than the Aries. He was a very giving, loving, and spiritual oriented person, as is more common than not with Neptune being predominant (course there are exceptions, either due to freewill/life events and/or the rest of the chart counterbalancing).

posted November 29, 2021 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:

Gemini is the twin, two faces, second energy being living in one body. There can be a good twin, a bad twin, two good twins, or just two bad twins. Usually one hides the other.

In someone with psychological issues it can even point to DID (dissociative identity disorder/multiple personality).

In any event, they can most certainly be bullies and if anything, can potentially be the most covert because people tend to not suspect them because the twin can sleep and/or only come out at certain times.

This is also why Gemini can be the "double agent", and can even be known as a trickster or prankster.

They also tend to detest being accused of being a bully and will often to use their mental prowess and their gift of gab to very eloquently convince people otherwise and deny it at all costs. The other twin doesn't like to be caught.

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posted November 29, 2021 06:02 PM            

She reminds me of my best female frends Gemini sister...whom by chance is born a day after me..born diffrent year.

Her sister never complete any formal education beyond high school, lived a normal life and is secretly jealous of anyone whos completed more in there life then her.

Anyone that she can put down to make herself appear more important she will.

Whomever is closest to herself..might be the easiest for her to put down.

I know it's not the advice you'd want to hear ....I'd just stay confident and laugh it off.

If you can make a fact public with everyone around you will deny her the chance to gossip about it. Don't give her the opportunity to gossip about you by announcing it first.

Eventually people will catch on what type of person she is. Followed by nobody really liking her, i'd just let her fail.

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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:

Gemini is the twin, two faces, second energy being living in one body. There can be a good twin, a bad twin, two good twins, or just two bad twins. Usually one hides the other.

In someone with psychological issues it can even point to DID (dissociative identity disorder/multiple personality).

In any event, they can most certainly be bullies and if anything, can potentially be the most covert because people tend to not suspect them because the twin can sleep and/or only come out at certain times.

This is also why Gemini can be the "double agent", and can even be known as a trickster or prankster.

They also tend to detest being accused of being a bully and will often to use their mental prowess and their gift of gab to very eloquently convince people otherwise and deny it at all costs. The other twin doesn't like to be caught.

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I whouldn't say another twin exists per say...

More like Gemini is one of the most adaptable signs in the zodiac. I can do a quick 360
on decesions, idea or change of direction.

Not because I have another twin...just because I will make changes as more facts come in.

In all fairness....I do agree if the Gemini male has underlined ego issues or if the Gemini female has insecurity issues there is the potential for problems.

I'd look for clues on how they were raised, ...such as is it the case of a Gemini female being raised by a Leo father...with the Leo father raising her like a little princess?

Just my theory and I'm open to anyone that will disagree...provided there is sound reasoning...

I think with mutable signs...the enviroment they were brought up in has a bigger effect on who they become...Gemini being no diffrent.

posted November 29, 2021 07:56 PM            

How do you know she is talking behind your back? Do you have ears behind your back? Did someone tell you what she has been saying behind your back? Anyway, if you know for A FACT fact she has been saying lies behind your back, there are 3 things you could do:

1) Confront her in public. I heard you are saying this and that about me... Why are you making up those lies about me?

2) Confront her in private...

3) Don't confront her, but cut her out of your life. No more pretense of friendship with her. Trust that you will be vindicated in the end and move on.

Option 1 requires a lot of guts, a willingness to get into fights, and a high tolerance for drama. Do you have fire in your chart? Do you have a fighting spirit? Do you have strong squares or oppositions in your chart? If so, go for it! If not, don't do it.

Option 3 requires determination, detachment and an aversion to drama. Do you have strong Jupiter or Neptune in your chart? Do you have strong people-pleasing-Libra in your chart? If so, this would be the best option for you.

posted November 30, 2021 11:22 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Sorry, but I loathe the whole two-faced assumption when it comes to gemini placements. My Pisces Moon sister could be that way - one way with me, a different way with everyone else. Only my parents witnessed it. Everyone would think she was an angel.

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That's actually a really good observation, because Pisces can be like this, too.

If you notice, Gemini and Pisces symbol is similar. Put Gemini symbol on its side and remove one line, center the other.

The Gemini symbol means companion aka the twin, connected by the two shared minds.

posted November 30, 2021 12:35 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Sorry, but I loathe the whole two-faced assumption when it comes to gemini placements. My Pisces Moon sister could be that way - one way with me, a different way with everyone else. Only my parents witnessed it. Everyone would think she was an angel.

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What is your sister's ascendant?
What is your sister's sun?
What are the aspects to the above from natal Neptune or Jupiter?