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plutonianmenace
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posted December 09, 2021 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So it is undeniable at this point that most Astrologers, no matter how desperately they try to sound legit, are very partial towards certain signs. I've been browsing Astrology blogs for years and I notice this desperation to hype up one sign as an unforgiving all powerful type and putting down others as incompetent dummies. I mean it isn't exactly written that way but it is implied. Now I used to wonder why this is and why "Astrologers" will use every opportunity to desperately hype up particular signs and put down others, then it hit me.

Let's talk about the elements:

Fire
Air
Earth
Water

I put them in that order, why?

Because Fire is the most masculine and Water is the most feminine.

Then I looked into who actually follows Astrology the most and as a result, ends up being an Astrologer.

The answer is obvious, women overwhelmingly. Women are much more likely to follow Astrology and believe it is real than men do. On the same token, most Astrologers themselves tend to be women.

When we write and when we speak, our biases come out. With writers, whether in politics or Astrology, you ultimately cannot be impartial no matter how hard you try. No matter how hard you try to play fair, you simply cannot no matter which side you lean on.

Now women will naturally hype up feminine traits as powerful but it's not just that, naturally, women tend to be more abstract than men when thinking. This is why women care little for boring STEM majors and prefer to go into the Arts. It's not that women cannot be engineers or that they cannot handle it, the brightest Scientist and Engineer I knew were both women, it's just that they rather not.

Getting back into it.

It comes out in Astrology and the stuff you read.

It is no mystery now why Astrologers are so desperate to put down fire signs and write all day about how unfocused and incompetent Gemini are. Yeah, the sign just happens to be ruled by Mercury and it is so freaking stupid and incompetent, RIGHT.

Yet why is it that at every turn, Scorpios get hyped up?

Why are Astrologers so desperate and giving life and limb to convince you that Scorpios are this unstoppable Avenger on a Marvel movie and all other signs its inferior?

Why?

Well let's break it apart.

Scorpio is fixed water, the most feminine element in its fixed energy.

Now it makes sense why whenever you google Astrology, they are all so desperately corrupting the truth and so desperate to play favorites, no matter how legitimate they claim they are.

It now makes sense why Astrologers care little if you call Geminis dumb and Leos incompetent but will try to go full on Cancel Culture when you point out the fact that, well, Scorpios are quite an overhyped sign that's all bark no bite. It's true, we all know it.

So what can we do?

As someone who has gotten into Astrology a lot, this bias sickens me.

I put my faith in the universe and in a higher power that one day, the truth shall come to the light on this. One day, others too will see what I am seeing and one day, objectivity and impartiality will come to Astrology so maybe more people can believe it and take it seriously.

At the end of the day, I also think that the Universe and the Truth win.

Take Tom Brady (a Leo) versus Jimmy Garapollo (a Scorpio). Jimmy did all he could to ruin Tom Brady and stop him from succeeding with the Patriots, he played dirty tricks to take his spot. Yet, Tom Brady will go down as the best Quarterback of all time while Mr. Scorpio is failing with the 49ers.

I guess that's the beauty of Astrology.

Astrologers can desperately try to mislead you by hyping up certain signs and saying they are all powerful but the universe has different rules.

Even if I fail on my big goal with Astrology of exposing this blatant bias and bastardization of the truth, I rest easy knowing that the Universe had my side because I was right.

And some may think, when one sign seems to regularly be society's redhead stepchild that can't achieve much in life without serious help, maybe the universe says "let em have their little validation on something most people see as not being real".

After all, does the Gemini with a 150 IQ or the Leo having threesomes with two supermodels really care enough to hype up their sign like that?

I guess go on, please tell us how Air signs and Fire signs are just THE WORSE.

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posted December 09, 2021 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree to some extent but a lot of times I think it’s rooted in projection. Some signs get all the hype because they see traits in those signs deemed admirable, and others get the villain edit because “my ex/my friend/that Lyft driver that one time... was a certain sign. It’s incredibly unfair, and to be frank, corny. Why? Because if you were truly as knowledgeable of an astrologer as you claimed, you’d go by placements and how things connect, not labels as one sign alone is: a label. Sadly that’s the way it goes as stereotypes and stereotyping are human nature.

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posted December 09, 2021 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are no different. You are very partial to Leo (obviously) as you take every opportunity to sing the energy praises.

Tom Brady's football skills may be because of the finesse and quickness of foot that Mars in Gemini tends to have. These guys can be great at thinking on their feet and reacting appropriately. I wouldn't say its because he is a "Leo"🤷🏿‍♂️

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posted December 09, 2021 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Didn’t Tom Brady do something to some footballs, effectively cheating? Was that him?

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posted December 09, 2021 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never seen or heard astrologers downplaying Leos or Geminis. Leos are always described as those proud, strong and warm hearted individuals, while Gemini is this quick witted, funny jokester. What I do keep reading and hearing is how much of a loser Pisces is: dependent, weak, lets themselves be walked over, has no touch with reality. That was the reason why I found interest in astrology in the first place: because that couldn't be further from the truth in my experiece as a Pisces sun and knowing many Pisces suns. Many of them being cold hearted and selfish. Scorpio is constantly mistified and that is also annoying.

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posted December 09, 2021 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, a lot of people interested in astrology are women. And yes, probably most people that call themselves an astrologer are women. But as I have said before, every sign has a positive and a negative expression and ranking the signs says more about the person doing the ranking than the actual signs. Just because people call themselves an astrologer doesn’t mean they are actually good. Plenty of recognized astrologers that have written good and accessible books, are in fact men.

Bias towards Scorpio and Pluto or the 8th house often has to do with attraction to taboos or dirty little secrets. It is projection, pure and simple. Fact is that there are a lot of sexually frustrated people out there. Just look at the popularity of 50 shades of grey. These are most likely the people that have a strong fascination with Scorpio (expressed as either a strong like or dislike of the sign).

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posted December 09, 2021 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^
thank you PlutowasHere. I have a very interesting theory about astrology, collective sociology and how it correlates to parasocial relationships. Not necessary in the regard of celebrities, but sometimes these biases are heavily rooted in media(Twitter,tik Tok, insta) and have no real bases at times other than influence. I’ve met people before who have never been friends with, met some signs, etc yet swear they know the sign itself.

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posted December 09, 2021 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
You are no different. You are very partial to Leo (obviously) as you take every opportunity to sing the energy praises.

Tom Brady's football skills may be because of the finesse and quickness of foot that Mars in Gemini tends to have. These guys can be great at thinking on their feet and reacting appropriately. I wouldn't say its because he is a "Leo"🤷🏿‍♂️


Edited...

I agree with the assessment of Mars in Gemini. OJ Simpson also has Mars in Gemini conjunct North Node at the top of his chart.


Tom Brady's Neptune is opposite his Mars, and that can make for the uncanny ability to trick adversaries by doing moves that can fly under the radar and are confusing.

Tom Brady also has North Node and Pluto conjunct his ascendant. That can make the native exceptionally powerful at what they are doing.

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posted December 09, 2021 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is probably something in the OP's chart that would explain such a intense emotional charge toward Scorpios.

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posted December 09, 2021 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amoranthaniela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
There is probably something in the OP's chart that would explain such a intense emotional charge toward Scorpios.

You're prolly right :v

Isn't this the same person who was also going after Sagittarius? Or am I confusing them with someone else?

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posted December 09, 2021 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Edited...

I agree with the assessment of Mars in Gemini. OJ Simpson also has Mars in Gemini conjunct North Node at the top of his chart.


Tom Brady's Neptune is opposite his Mars, and that can make for the uncanny ability to trick adversaries by doing moves that can fly under the radar and are confusing.

Tom Brady also has North Node and Pluto conjunct his ascendant. That can make the native exceptionally powerful at what they are doing.


Yes. It's more than just "oh, he is a Leo".🤔

Neptune opp Mars could also suggest someone who lacks boundaries & believes that they can achieve anything. Moving like water, being flexible, extremely adaptable and imaginative etc.

Mars in Gemini is also a fan of shortcuts; always thinking about a faster, easiest and most advantageous way to accomplish tasks. Sometimes (especially with boundary inflating Neptune) this could include."bending the rules" a little and trying to pull a fast one on others. Gemini can be all about that too 🤣

Pluto conj North node- very focused. This even to a point of being "obsessive". Mom has the conjunct aspect of North node to Pluto in Virgo. Can you say "workaholic"?🤷🏿‍♂️

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posted December 09, 2021 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
There is probably something in the OP's chart that would explain such a intense emotional charge toward Scorpios.

Yes. He is a Leo Sun. I think he is kinda preoccupied with exalting himself via the sign energy position. 🤷🏿‍♂️

This isn't just about Sco because before changing gears ,he was bashing Sag women in their entirety.😶

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posted December 09, 2021 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
You're prolly right :v

Isn't this the same person who was also going after Sagittarius? Or am I confusing them with someone else?


Yes. Same.

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posted December 09, 2021 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Bias towards Scorpio and Pluto or the 8th house often has to do with attraction to taboos or dirty little secrets. It is projection, pure and simple. Fact is that there are a lot of sexually frustrated people out there. Just look at the popularity of 50 shades of grey. These are most likely the people that have a strong fascination with Scorpio (expressed as either a strong like or dislike of the sign).

First, hype up of Scorpio involved with people obsession with sex. Obsessive, possessive - sounds hot for sexually frustrated people. Sex sells.

For the opposite crowd who isn’t into kinky stuff, taboos and tired from spitefulness, there’s hyping up of Pisces/ Neptune which might be deceptive and dangerous also, but give nicer, spiritual vibes.

Air signs are mostly described as friendly, brainy, fickle. It’s not interesting.

I didn’t see Astrologers diminish Fire. Usually, they’re presented as hot-headed leaders.


Second, Scorpios often are the worst communicators. As a result, the only way to find out what’s going on is to get into astrology, psychology, mediumship and exorcism. That would explain why many interested in Astrology are into Scorpio.

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posted December 09, 2021 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes. He is a Leo Sun. I think he is kinda preoccupied with exalting himself via the sign energy position. 🤷🏿‍♂️

This isn't just about Sco because before changing gears ,he was bashing Sag women in their entirety.😶


Leo Sun you said. Well, well, well.

The funny thing about Leos and Scorpios is that, since the average human female's pregnancy is typically 9 months, Leo Suns babies were usually CONCEIVED when the Sun was in Scorpio the year before. Therefore, in a way. Scorpio Suns are the fathers of Leo Suns.

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posted December 10, 2021 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Leo Sun you said. Well, well, well.

The funny thing about Leos and Scorpios is that, since the average human female's pregnancy is typically 9 months, Leo Suns babies were usually CONCEIVED when the Sun was in Scorpio the year before. Therefore, in a way. Scorpio Suns are the fathers of Leo Suns.


Lol, the astrological law dictates that every Leo has some person in some caretaker position(Ic) with the sign of Scorpio somewhere in their chart.🤣


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posted December 10, 2021 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for saronna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's an interesting theory. It's hard not to be basis

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posted December 15, 2021 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Leo Sun you said. Well, well, well.

The funny thing about Leos and Scorpios is that, since the average human female's pregnancy is typically 9 months, Leo Suns babies were usually CONCEIVED when the Sun was in Scorpio the year before. Therefore, in a way. Scorpio Suns are the fathers of Leo Suns.


and I thought Qanon was bad when it came to conspiracy theories

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posted December 15, 2021 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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and I thought Qanon was bad when it came to conspiracy theories

Her astrological theory makes more sense than anything related to Qanon.

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posted December 15, 2021 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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and I thought Qanon was bad when it came to conspiracy theories

Have you heard the one about your draco chart? That’s the chart connected to your nodes and apparently is connected to your souls journey and your deeper personality. And it also happens to be the chart where your Leo stellium turns into a Scorpio stellium. I’ve said before and I’ll repeat it again, you’re more like a Scorpio than you would like to admit.

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posted December 16, 2021 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Have you heard the one about your draco chart? That’s the chart connected to your nodes and apparently is connected to your souls journey and your deeper personality. And it also happens to be the chart where your Leo stellium turns into a Scorpio stellium. I’ve said before and I’ll repeat it again, you’re more like a Scorpio than you would like to admit.

OH why NOOOO SIR, if you claim that I am a Leo Stellium, I am just some jolly and happy go lucky doofus. Remember? Astrology says so.

"Astrologers" claim that Leos have no bad side to them and are always happy. it is those Scorpios who are the Frank Castles of the zodiac.

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posted December 16, 2021 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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OH why NOOOO SIR, if you claim that I am a Leo Stellium, I am just some jolly and happy go lucky doofus. Remember? Astrology says so.

"Astrologers" claim that Leos have no bad side to them and are always happy. it is those Scorpios who are the Frank Castles of the zodiac.


Nope, not every Leo is a happy ray of sunshine and astrology definitely doesn’t work that way. Your aspects and house placements are much more influential. Your t-square with Pluto at the apex provides some very challenging energies in your birth chart. But you already know that because your username clearly refers to it.

You just want attention…

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posted December 16, 2021 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
OH why NOOOO SIR, if you claim that I am a Leo Stellium, I am just some jolly and happy go lucky doofus. Remember? Astrology says so.

"Astrologers" claim that Leos have no bad side to them and are always happy. it is those Scorpios who are the Frank Castles of the zodiac.


Leo’s can be controlling, stubborn, judgmental. Another thing they have in common with the Scorpio stereotype.

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posted December 16, 2021 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the reason Scorpios are all bark no bite is due to the fact that the second people detach from them, they lose a lot of power and cannot do anything. It is different than ******* off a Capricorn or Taurus who is very strategic and practical when getting even. Just food for thought.

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posted December 16, 2021 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
I think the reason Scorpios are all bark no bite is due to the fact that the second people detach from them, they lose a lot of power and cannot do anything. It is different than ******* off a Capricorn or Taurus who is very strategic and practical when getting even. Just food for thought.

I don’t feel a need to get even. I’m an Aries with Scorpio rising.

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