posted December 20, 2021 08:59 AM            

But for me, just maybe, having Venus in 11H sq Scorpio 3H, I might just be every so slightly erratic in my communications with my FRIENDS and FAMILY? Could it possibly be that simple? Or maybe it caters to the fact that I have far and away friends, strewn over the globe and we are not in each others face 24/7, hence the space-part.
If you’re my lover (husband in my case), trust that I’ll be in your face 24/7. You can also trust that I’ll torment you with all my Uranian, crazy ideas and thoughts that 95% of the time have nothing solid behind them. It’s just my way of expressing FREEDOM in thinking.

posted December 20, 2021 11:51 AM            

In as far as your example goes, I have experienced the disappearing act of Ven-Ura square. So that is not completely unfounded. I think this was discussed in ChildofVenus' post when she was talking about the "clingy" Sag.

So perhaps it is mentioned too many times that it starts to sound like a "cookie cutter" description? And then its emphasis starts to feel like a "stereotype" etc.

Yes to all the other traits you mentioned that accompany Venus-Uranus. But I think what is also worthwhile to mention is that not enough astrologers are expanding the descriptions for the planetary aspects. They safely stick to accepted conventions but okay around with the words.That's what makes it annoying for me.

Venus-Uranus aspect ime also uggests that the native is open to affording love and affection to people whom society deems "weird"/"unworthy"/ "unsuitable" or even "undeserving" of it.

These can be rebellious lovers whom can give others the middle finger when it comes to someone they love and are fixated on.

Katie Holmes married the "weird" Tom Cruise and had his daughter.Her Ven in Sco conj Ura in Sco

Intellectual connection can be so paramount to these people that looks, the person's past(say they were sex workers/porn stars etc.),their differences in cultures, their social standing etc. ALL become irrelevant. All that matters is the connection they have with them.

Uranus can be the great "equalizer" in matters of love when on Ven. The native may break establishes norms or conventions on whom can love whom.

posted December 20, 2021 10:03 PM            

if you have Venus in Cancer and Uranus in Scorpio, then these planets are only square by degree, not by sign.

And in addition, both signs where these planets fall are watery signs, emotional signs.

posted December 21, 2021 07:15 AM            

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What are some generalizations you’ve read that irritate you?

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That Venus opposite Uranus in composite means instability. People involved are different from each other, but the differences are not profound, the styles match so well that they make a beautiful relationship out of it. Its an aspect that shows accepting the other person unconditional as he/she is and enjoying their presence in their life.

Another one, that pluto dominated composite is intense only, or that conjunctions from pluto to personal planets are easier... people who say this didnt have a relationship like this. Its dangerous and very selfish. It leads to hate in the end. I don't know how it is with the square, I had only the conjunctions, and I've seen people with the oppositions. I have with my father the opposition from Venus to Pluto and the only reason we have such a great relationship is because of other placements and because we live in different countries. He is my best friend, but everytime I tried to move to england, he tried to control me and what I do for a living there.

Saturn conjunct Sun in composite is really helpful for a long term relationship even though it is described as a very draining type of relationship.

The fact that only Saturn binds. I've seen a composite of a long term relationship with Jupiter conjunct Venus and Sun, without any Saturn aspects to personal planets, so Jupiter can keep people together because they really love each other and enjoy being together.

That the Sun in the 12th house in composite is about a hidden relationship. I had it in my long term relationship and it was official from day one until the end of it.

posted January 16, 2022 05:26 PM            

The extremes in question are the felt or conscious discernment between what is "generalized too often," versus what is the overall objective consensus that commonly results in a + b = c. The problem with astrology is that while I feel it does have a very real objective backing, people use different equations. In other words, not everyone is going to get the same answer either. It's mathematics but it isn't mathematics at the same time (if that makes sense) lol. It's not exactly just that "cut and dry" to where everyone is going to have an "AHA!" moment on solving an equation in the right manner, because there kind of exists a problem in derivitive interpretation concerning either the equation or "solution" in and of itself.

I know there have been many definitions finagled as a so to speak, "one-size fits all" types of descriptions, although, I will only offer my own viewpoint on the matter. I think language in and of itself can be very vague in my experience alone since it's truly hard to write a "novel" for everyone trying to describe every aspect of life in general, whether it's an astrological placement, or whether it's trying to "explain" to someone what an event horizon is. ... for Pete's sake (I'm just using some examples; by the way, so bare with me here).

What I've found just on my own with my own pure speculated perception and most likely infinite ignorance is that a single aspect in and of itself is a very broad source of "influence," "energy," "natural inclination," or "degree" (whatever you want to call it) that dictates a wide array of possibilities, yet at the core, they are all similar in nature that they "CAN" ultimately (even though it's not always the case) create a "datasheet" that shows that "across the board" there are a lot of similarities governed within whatever particular aspect or placement that is ultimately in question.

In my opinion, I think it is proposed that this form of objectivity concerning an "aspect" is only as true as the power or influence that is backing it. It's not really a question of who is in the drivers seat, but more so what kind of vehicle are they driving? But it's also both at the same time though. (see the confusion here?) The reason why I use this analogy is because the differences between a supercar, Lamborghini, and a little mini Honda Fit are huge. Now, obviously whatever the driver decides to do while in the drivers seat is at their discretion, but while this is true, it shouldn't deter the fact that whatever car they're driving has limited or different capabilities as well. So, what I mean by this is that the way these things are carried out ultimately are not just governed by a multitude of random speculations by "other" astrologers, but it is also backed by a "conceptual" common consensus of the "vehicle" that is being driven. In this case, what I mean by "vehicle" is the placement or aspect in question, which seems to have a very real commonality with the other "same" "vehicles," out there. The driver is the interpretation of the vehicle while obviously goes out into the world in different varieties. Aka: the driver could be a different type of driver. They could be ransacking villages, running over animals, with a tank.... or Billy over here could be driving a very nice luxurious Mercedes Benz, cool as a cucumber, minding his own damn business. At the end of the day it is up to the very distinct language being used to describe such "automatic" or "not-automatic" influences that are probably in the very most likelihood to be governed by a multitude of "conceptualizations" that are kind of "known" throughout the vast networking of other "astrologers" to be "most likely the case because of X, Y, Z" (if this even makes sense). I think there is this very real fear or perhaps, apprehension, even competition; between people's perceptions, that are in fact questioning the very validity of what is "true" or "false." While I think it should be noted that an individual needs to have the maturity to realize that there can both "truths" and "not-truths-for-everyone" similarly.

The problem I think herein lies with the fact that they can be both true and false at the same time. What I mean by this is that while there are systematically designed "black and white" aspects concerning the bearing it has on our overall minds at birth, you also get hit with the ever-changing, erratic, subjective, and subjectively proposed objectiveness of adulthood. Which, unfortunately, can cause some very real confusion. It can be true for someone else, while not resonating with yourself, yet, this ultimately doesn't mean that these two "individuals" are driving a different car either. They can both have the same aspect or placement and have completely different outcomes while driving the same car and all of its magnificent credentials to boot at that!

As a Mercury in the 8th, most people probably don't want to hear me speak. It's because what I try to describe is akin to trying to describe the source of an "endless pit." (how does this even make any sense? Well, welcome to my world my friend) Even though I try my damnest to make myself clear. I understand what you're saying. I can only hope to answer your question in a way that satisfies your "concerns" filtered through my own objective reasoning, so to speak. I think it's a problem in humbleness as well. Obviously no one is "know it all," even though I think some people like to feel that way! lol I have my own cars that I have to figure out how to "drive" effectively. Sometimes it isn't an easy thing. If anything I hope my answer can maybe help you come to some kind of true conclusion that you find so puzzling within your soul. Essentially what I'm saying is that I believe that there are very real objective energies, influences, or solid foundations so to speak behind each and every sign, house, aspect, placement, etc.... (all of them). They all seem to have some very real comparative tendencies in my own observation as well as research. That's why I think astrologers use descriptions that encompass a multitude of "examples" that may or may not be the case of a "one size fits all" for everyone with the aspect. Or may not always seem to "hit the nail on the head," exactly the way people "want" it or they to, even if the hammer is striking the Hell out of the nail in all sorts of places with all of its might! What it does do is give a very real example that could very well fit a vast majority of individuals with said aspect in question. I don't like to call this a generalization though. I think generalization is a word that can easily be misconstrued to mean a wide variety of different things. Yet, it is quite ironic that in this deduction I have found that "logical" descriptions seem to be the very forefront to communicating astrology to everyone. Their so-called "generalizations" as you call them are nothing more than a cry for help (in my opinion) for being able to accurately describe the knowledge that they know to be true from their own perception. It'd be like a dog trying to use a specific bark to denote his/her concerns, feelings, or problem(s) to a human. You may interpret it as a simple "bark! bark! baaaaarrkk... etc.." but that doesn't necessarily mean that your perception is the true objective forethought or "backing" that's resonating true with the dog, either, respectively. (cautch my drift? ) Albeit, friend, I understand your apparent annoyance concerning this, it is easy to be annoyed. It's a cry for help in being able to effectively allow others to interpret the correct reasoning behind any aspect, sign, or house. The problem is that there can be many flavors to an ice cream. While, the "ice cream" will always have the core ingredients tied to it (house, signs, aspects, placements, etc...) that doesn't necessarily mean that they are all going to taste the same or be carried out in the same way. So, "they" (an astrologer) go with the simplest "typical" descriptions and by trying to denote each signs, house, or aspects "core" influences.

A sign in my opinion is typically the "what" an energy is. It's like the engine or driving force. While, houses typically dictate the "where" is this "energy" being "carried out," or the "area." How, where, why, and to what degree are all very common misconceptions though in and of themselves simply because I feel like you could you use both of these descriptors for both the sign and house, as well as aspects in some form or manner.

You could say simply, that "this" "is" the way to accurately "look" at "this" in the "right" way, but your "way" of presenting that information to someone else can come off to make them feel very perplexed due to their "way" of looking at "it." This "it," obviously being the things you question, yet, each person can describe things with a different flavor, while still maintaining the "core" "stimulation" or concepts behind each house, sign, or aspect.... but even then, EVEN "THIS" or "These" can become misconstrued. (Do you see where I'm going with this??) It's a very deep contemplation inside, but on the surface it becomes, lighter, and lighter.... and even lighter ! It gets even lighter! the further it tries to surface due to the abundant ways to try to "communicate" these..... ! It's like observing anything, really... I mean, if you were to observe a newly found species or animal, can you claim to know all of its genetic makeup just by an outwardly observation alone? Of course not! THAT WOULD BE PREPOSTEROUS! Lol. And excuse my bluntness. I am opposite to Sagittarius, afterall. One thing you could do though is use your common knowledge of other animals to come to a logical reasoning of certain things that all animals have in common though.

I think it just comes down to an individuals reasoning, perception, observation, research, trial and error, etc.... to being able to read in-between the lines effectively enough to understand everyone's "flavor" or "language" that they use as their ultimate perceptive descriptors denoting their overall thoughts, emotions, intuition, practical reasoning etc... with whatever it is that anyone is trying to articulate. I suppose if this helps, maybe look at each description merely as a "blueprint" or "rough draft";;:::: (whatever you want to call it) and in your own extreme limelighted magnitude, you can sort of use this as your own backing for your own perception. A tailor, if you will, to uncovering the ever, seemingly, wavering TRUE AND FALSES!!

"Charlie!" ??!! (hELLO, cHARLIE??!)

I hope this helps you Sir Charlie.

I bid you excellent health.

Sincerely,

Sir Hampton.... (umm... well, not quite... actually)

P.S. Have you ever heard of Neptune and all of its trickeries? Things don't always seem as they appear! The confusion. Engulfing. AAAhhh!!! THe despair! I cannot take it any longer!

Don't worry though, just keep a level head about you, lad. You'll find this magic very easy to see through. Afterall, it's inside of you. Will always be there. Why not use your discernment to your advantage? Do you ignore a wolf's howl? Well, then why would you ignore your own screams deep within you? The answer is that you cannot. The wolf will howl without permission. It can't be mistaken and you mustn't not allow it.

To try to do so would be a sin. Naturally, or morally. Whichever you decide. I think we all exist just as perplexed as the other ones. A dog cannot infer this, though. It just exists with their own sort of tad bit, knick knack, paddy whacks, and give a dog a bone.....errr.... umm, sort of way..... (however you wish to look at it)

Sorry for the long reply, ........ em bored.....

Take care though!

I show a trick, expose it, and then invent a brand new one, then runnoft!

Don't we ALL follow suit? Would you rather life be dull with a bowl of soup or rather it be full of all kinds of delicacies as well as soup? : D

Just givem the damned soup, Phil. For crying out loud.... what's yer problem? Can't you see the craving? The yearning for something so simplistic, yet, infinitely complex at the same time?

Chicken noodle of course, what are ye, mad? Whoever heard of sticking seafood with soup, anyways?

posted January 16, 2022 06:14 PM            

Generalizations that annoy the hell out of me are that of,

"all Sun sign Geminis are two-faced"

"Aquarius sun signs are un-emotional"

"Sagittarius is perfect and never lies."

"Scorpios will destroy your life" (or even Scorpio energy)

"Virgo energy is always perfect, and clean"

See, I've observed all of these influences or energies not being the case 100% of the time. I think there are different severities of "generalizations," with the ones that I listed probably at the top as in "most ridiculous." My brother is a Virgo Moon, and is one of the filthiest, unorganized, and lazy people (only works the bare-minimum to basically sleep) people I've ever met in my life. Hell, some people will argue that Virgo Moons are the exact opposite and will have several jobs to get by. Nope, not him though. It's not an easy thing to explain, although I think astrologers use different means to describe something that is essentially universal only in "undertones" if that makes sense. The undertones part just gets "masked" over in having to unfortunately resort to different examples, by trying to explain something from the outside in, instead of from the inside, out. This is because it's difficult for people to explain it from the inside, out and so to actually tap into the true energy or aspect gets carried out in different ways, using examples, explaining tendencies, describing "could haves or could be this or that...etc.." For example, I'm a Mercury in the 8th and Sun in the 8th. I'm not trying to "fluff my feathers," either. I'm only mentioning this to try to make a point. 8th house energy draws out what's hidden. I truly believe there's a hidden "force" behind each aspect, sign, or house basically backing it that makes all of these "tendencies" come "alive" in people's lives. They're like engines like I explained earlier or basically driving forces, energies...Magnus Carlsen, arguably the best chess player of our time, has his Mars in Gemini in the 8th house. That's how he's able to calculate positions so deeply to uncover a winning solution. Yet, you see what I did there? I could be extremely biased in my answer or what I deduce from that placement alone. I just use my own research, observations, deducing, intuition, etc.... to make a distinction. Now, to get back to what I was describing before in the 8th house is that, I wouldn't necessarily say that the example about Magnus Carlsen is a generalization, but I can't completely be 100% in my beliefs to conclude that it also isn't sort of like a generalization.... (if that even makes sense). By me being a Mercury in Gemini in the 8th basically means that I always look for hidden things naturally or things that aren't exactly surface. Take Mercury for example, which is all about communication basically. When I talk to people, I don't just listen to the surface words that come out of their physical mouths. I listen to "other" forms of communication that they don't even realize that they're communicating. It's more about the undertones or the energy behind their words if that makes sense. Now, the reason I brought this up is because this is just a couple of examples that I have used to try to describe a single placement. (Mecury in Gemini in the 8th). Now, someone else describing this placement might be a little bit different (oh and trust me, I know you know this) with their approach or even make a "seemingly" generalized statement concerning any aspect, but I think it's just out of the extreme duress that it's hard to explain these things objectively to people, because it comes from different mindsets.