posted December 28, 2021 09:04 PM            

I wasn't prepared on the last tPluto when it square my Venus and continued another square to my Venus/Moon midpoint. Not going to lie, I feel very weary. And I like to know....

Is the tPluto square Moon transit scary for anyone who've gone through it? How meaningful is it, if it is aspecting to the CR? Like maybe an identity transformation through the emotional level? It hasn't been 3 months, and I'm thinking of getting a tattoo, change my clothes from pastel to darker colors. Remove my bleached hair, etc. I'm holding it off because this is Venus retrograde season.

posted December 28, 2021 09:19 PM            

At the moment it’s 3.8° applying, and exacts first March 2023, back and forth, until roughly 2025.

I’ve been wondering what might happen in this same vein of “identity (first house) transformation”. I am starting to feel a proverbial biological clock ticking. natal Pluto sits in my 5H… could it be *gasp* motherhood? creativity? life-changing sex?

I currently feel too young to be a parent (also am single) but I’ve also grown newly obsessed with the potential in pregnancy. practically worshipped the expecting mother at the Christmas dinner I went to; asked her so many doting questions as if she were a bonafide superhero.

sorta excited about transit Pluto 🤩 http://youtu.be/qFLhGq0060w

posted December 29, 2021 12:33 AM            

What I notice about Pluto on Moon is that it can make one very insecure or surface feelings of being "unsafe".

So what happens is that the individual may have secrets revealed about their life that makes them feel that "all is not as what it seems".

This could set off a sort of "domino" effect of one being suspicious of EVERYTHING (the extreme nature of Sco -which Plu rules) and second guessing those whom one has intimate relationships with.

The question of "whom are my true friends? " starts to surface again and again. And it can rub off on others as defensiveness or a tendency for the native to shut others out and build high psychological walls.

Enmity can abound at this time. This can typically be from a close person (Moon) or those whom one takes as "family"(Moon). The strong momentum of Pluto can support open dialogue about what is really gping on deep within OR be the catalyst for emotional confrontations, stand-offs and a severance of significant ties.

Sometimes it can indicate the loss or death of someone close/maternal like the mother (but not necessarily). It is usually a time where one's emotions are at their extreme and inform a lot of their decision making.

Be mindful that your emotions are likely "cooked" on maximum heat & ur reactions are extreme. So not everything that you think is true,is true. It could just be your defensive walls backing up☝🏿

posted December 29, 2021 12:33 AM            

We seem to have our moon in close degrees Vansio and my Pluto is also in the 5h too where the Moon is too. I guess we'll find out when March comes.

posted December 29, 2021 02:26 AM            

I was questioning my friends, people were hostile (I was tense), etc. It was an exhausting journey. Near the end of the transit, I "blew" up. They played out as you described. Everyone was sus at work. I even attracted Plutonians and in synastry too.

In some ways I think I got myself a demo. 😂

I was wondering about plastic surgery earlier too.

posted December 29, 2021 06:31 PM            

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Originally posted by 93nov:
Coming from someone who just wrapped this transit up, I'd say you're in for one hell of a ride.

You will not be the same. It's like a whole new dimension opened up that I never knew it existed.

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Is it okay I ask what were some things you went through? And what did Pluto's lesson? If not, maybe email?

posted December 30, 2021 01:11 AM              

J/K!

May write more later. Btw, everyone experiences the same transits differently/uniquely for the most part (especially as to material manifestations/events occurring), though sometimes there are some general similar trends.

posted December 30, 2021 10:08 AM            

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Is it okay I ask what were some things you went through? And what did Pluto's lesson? If not, maybe email?

@Stawr, oh nono, any infos are good info. So I guess opposition has similar experiences.

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Where do I start?!

Pluto's energy starts off very subtle, almost like that annoying pile of clothes in the corner of your room... until you're completely immersed in its energy. Your room is a disaster. All you want to do is get rid of the "clutter" and quickly. It's making your life chaotic. You can't think straight. Your eating habits take a turn for the worst. All because of that small pile of clothes.

Sidenote: From my own experience (I can't speak for anyone else), I wasn't aware of what was happening at first or how things were going to unfold, initially. And I had been researching and reading up on this transit for years, prior. The funny thing is, people tell you you simply cannot prepare for this transit. You just can't. None of the stories will do it justice. Well maybe in hindsight, after the dust settles. HA.

Back to our lovely pile of clothes ahem.

So we're trapped in this room, day in and day out. Even when we get little glimpses of fresh air by going about our day, we still have to come back to this room.

Side note: Without order and peace, humans cannot function. Pluto will disrupt a peace and comfort inside of you, you never even knew existed. It's almost impossible to put into words.

So here we are, mid Pluto transit, trying to sift through all the clothes. We try to come up with a plan to finally get this room together... then BAM! Pluto retrograde. Siblings come in and trash the room even further. Maybe a parent too. For whatever reason. Back at square one, but this time, there's dog **** and food everywhere.

When TPluto square Moon first started it was like a build up. I knew things were changing (and not so much in a good way.. at least not at first), but I couldn't quite put my finger on it. My childhood friends slowly started to fade, for one reason or another, I started losing weight, and smoking weed. I was also finishing up a Uranus opposite moon transit right before Pluto so wheeew. My answer is probably bias. Saturn squared it at the end too. I'm surprised I'm still alive and fairly well now that I type this lmaoo

Sidenote: Aries23Degrees and his posts really helped me through it amongst other members on this forum. Kannon is another one that sticks out in my memory.

Anyway, Pluto felt like an suffocating, overbearing energy that just wouldn't stop torturing me until I figured out the WHY.

In my case, Pluto's lessons involved narcissistic personality disorder and simply letting go.

My father and a former partner were the catalysts.

I really struggled with codependency and really having no sense of self or my own moral code. Not really. I thought I did before Pluto lol. Pluto will definitely wake you up. One thing I will say though, that "thing" I couldn't quite put my finger on was uncovered during this transit. So many new insights about life revealed itself through my relationships, daily habits (6H stellium), and HOME LIFE. That one was a biggie. My father came home from doing a 10-12 ( I can't remember) year prison bid the semester I was supposed to graduate college. I ended up graduating a year late. Late, but still graduated nonetheless. I haven't really accomplished much since. Moved in with my ex of 3 years, as previously mentioned, straight out of college, to another state. It was like a domino affect. Did about two grueling semesters of grad school, but eventually withdrew. I really stepped away from my educational background and honed in on the more practical aspects of life. It was VERY uncomfortable and nerve-wracking at first and still is some days, but I'm slowly learning to adjust.

I'm a Scorpio Sun, Mercury, Venus too btw. Jupiter and Pluto are also in Scorpio as well loosely conjunct my stellium. Moon in lovely Libra (: lol. My poor moon still didn't stand a chance lol.

SELF-AWARENESS
ADULTHOOD
CATALYST

These are words I would use to describe this transit.

I apologize if my answer is all over the place and not very clear. Another possible after affect of the transit is memory loss and an overall sense of "dumbing down". At least in my case. The weed doesn't help either of course.

posted December 30, 2021 12:02 PM            

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Where do I start?!

So here we are, mid Pluto transit, trying to sift through all the clothes. We try to come up with a plan to finally get this room together... then BAM! Pluto retrograde. Siblings come in and trash the room even further. Maybe a parent too. For whatever reason. Back at square one, but this time, there's dog **** and food everywhere.

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I can resonate with all your responses.
I didn’t know about Retrograde Pluto. I thought it was over. I left ruins and disappointments behind. And I see everything starts all over. Deja vu. Without original Pluto intensity because I couldn’t go for that level of emotional craziness again. I left half of my feelings in the original Pluto forever. The threatening similarity of events.

Irony, as hard as I try to avoid to go through the similar experience. My resistance actually might make it worse and took me through the vicious circle again.

posted December 30, 2021 12:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Sis has the transit of Plu opp her natal Moon/Asc. Actually, Merc/Ven are also there too.

What I notice about Pluto on Moon is that it can make one very insecure or surface feelings of being "unsafe".

So what happens is that the individual may have secrets revealed about their life that makes them feel that "all is not as what it seems".

This could set off a sort of "domino" effect of one being suspicious of EVERYTHING (the extreme nature of Sco -which Plu rules) and second guessing those whom one has intimate relationships with.

The question of "whom are my true friends? " starts to surface again and again. And it can rub off on others as defensiveness or a tendency for the native to shut others out and build high psychological walls.

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Yep. It made me paranoid. I couldn’t even be nice to people anymore. I felt like everybody could hurt me. I wasn’t too trusting already. I cannot believe I needed to have more lessons about deceptions. I don’t think I’ll be able to go behind my psychological wall for long time.

posted December 31, 2021 12:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Yep. It made me paranoid. I couldn’t even be nice to people anymore. I felt like everybody could hurt me. I wasn’t too trusting already. I cannot believe I needed to have more lessons about deceptions. I don’t think I’ll be able to go behind my psychological wall for long time.

And yes, emotions were boiling on high. I couldn’t believe I could have so much emotional reactions on some stupid stuff. At that point, I couldn’t give much damn about everybody’s opinion, but I needed to pass around my feelings. I couldn’t swallow it anymore.

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posted December 31, 2021 10:51 AM            

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Must have been a nightmare for a Libra individual 🤣

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posted December 31, 2021 04:02 PM            

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Where do I start?!

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aww thanks 93nov. I think I get what you mean. When I had it square Venus, I had many sleepless nights. I couldn't simply let go of things that were not good for me. My Aries self said if I tough it out, everything will be ok. I end up self-isolating - I felt something was off and I couldn't pinpoint what it was. I don't think I've learned the last message from Pluto. Until it made a midpoint to my Venus/Moon. The Venus Rx is def adding it's flavor. I was exploring my emotions, the ugly ones this past December. I don't like it at all (Libra moon) I wanted to avoid it but had no choice. I want to heal from deep within myself. It's like diving into the deep dark ocean....

When we say let go, do we mean to accept that fear?

posted December 31, 2021 04:36 PM            

tPluto square Moon, if you don't resist it and allow it to strip your moon (aka your emotional nature) of all the dead weight it is clinging to, can be very positive.

-*-One thing you should NOT do in this transit is to allow yourself to be in an abusive relationship, whether physically or verbally or emotionally abusive, you.should.get.out by any means necessary.
And if you need to relocate and live under an assume named to flee your abuser to make sure you are not dead, DO IT!!

posted January 01, 2022 09:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Must have been a nightmare for a Libra individual 🤣

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posted January 01, 2022 10:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Also, for everyone around the drama. Once I feel like I don’t need to protect your feelings anymore, you’re going down 😊
I don’t get back for bitterness, but to find and reveal the truth. That’s what water or fixed ( the jury's still out on it) people cannot handle. I have water Mercury I can handle it much better. But I don’t want to make a deal with unreasonable bitterness.

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posted January 01, 2022 11:04 PM            

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Originally posted by 93nov:
Ha. My moon is in Libra and IT WAS. Still is some days (lingering after affects lol).

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Its like splitting hairs. 🙆🏿‍♂️. I find my Libra Mars very uncomfortable with anger. And the Pluto transit to my Moon/Merc/Mars/Asc-Dsc/Mc-Ic was quite a nightmare for me.

posted January 01, 2022 11:10 PM              

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Originally posted by Belage:
My spiritual approach to astrology is that the planets are working for my good. When I look back all the hairy transits I had, I see in hindsight that they were good, that I had to let go of something I thought was so wonderful but was not in reality...

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posted January 02, 2022 04:42 PM            

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"Unreasonable bitterness"🤣. Had to giggle at this. Its such a Libra thing to say. My Draconian Sun is in Libra, so i tend to see the "Libran" expressed in others quite easily.

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posted January 14, 2024 02:34 AM            

Pluto had been so intense but I have been reaping so much benefits. I’m grateful to see the posts are still here and seeing how supportive people around the world offering their wisdoms and experiences.

I felt like I came out of an emotional war-zone and not the same person I once was. I became the version I thought I could ever imagine. I am self-assured and complete in return.
Pluto has changed me in a radical way and more than just my Moon. I feel the hard-aspects I had struggled with, I was able to transmute them to a positive aspect and placements of my chart. I went through a spiritual awakening and dark knight of the soul (kind of thing). I had Neptune transit squaring my ASC/DSC during the process (it still is). Overall, I feel an emotionally inner strength. The thing I thought that would kill me didn't. If I overcome it, I can overcome anything.

Moon opposite Venus - I struggled feeling loved and whole. I treated love as a conditioned (due to my upbringing) I could only received love if I do something in return (sacrificing my myself) - Pluto taught me that it’s okay to put myself first and love is not a condition but a knowing I am loved and love is unquantifiable. Once I started this, I feel so much love for myself and complete. I even felt beautiful and stop seeking validations. The only validation I need is not out there but inside. I shifted my mindset from lack to abundance. A lot of people I knew growing up start falling out of my life.

Moon in Libra - I stopped people pleasing, I stop shopping too much, I start saying no, I stop caring what people think, I stop catering to avoid uncomfortable emotions/triggers and managing other peoples emotions, etc.

Venus in Aries - I start honoring my values within relationships, if it’s not aligned I accept we have different values and move on - maintain my boundaries as well. Pluto showed me I threw away my values for relationships that were not for me. I ended a soulmate connection and chose me.

Mercury square Uranus - My mind used to be very scattered and it would stressed me out. I had a hard time paying attention and spaced out a lot (Mercury in Pisces), it also fires up my brain causing restlessness and get myself into accidents. I started meditation (I was suffering from major anxiety and a painful break up - a break up that resembled death). I notice my mental capacity improved, I became calm, my nervous system improved too, less analyzing and choosing my intuition first). I no longer feel insecure about my communication and more accepting of others opinions.

Sun square Neptune - okay this one was an eye opener, I used to believe the world was harsh. Pluto was’t lying about facing our shadows and I had a good self reflection. I was placing myself as a victim and situations/others the villain. I was blaming them for my mishaps in life, including my mom. Overtime I stop self-pitying and took accountability I was contributing. I was where I was due to ME. I chose it whether its consciously or subconsciously. I stopped feeling sorry for myself - I start seeing a shift in my life and made room for compassion with myself when life gets hard and compassion for others. I stopped blaming (less venting too) altogether and rather positive/hopeful. Removing this old identity, I am accepting of the unknown (where my life takes me) and practice gratitude.

Sun/Pluto inconjunct (the tightest aspect in my chart, close to 0º) - Letting go is a major theme for me esp when the obsession start. I do a lot of mental diet and aware what goes in my mind will effect my emotions/body/mind/spirit. I had a tendency putting meanings into deeper meanings. I never thought I could have some plutonian energy until I start facing my shadows. I used to feel powerless too when seen sexualized but the lesson I learned is let it be - power is an illusion I created in my head. I have no control what others perceived me.

Uranus, Mars, Neptune (7th) - I start accepting my weirdness and spirituality, still working on how to be more assertive and acceptance of other's anger when I become assertive and confronting.