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OrbitalFire
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posted December 29, 2021 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OrbitalFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So if NN is in Capricorn and SN is in Cancer.. Next life will be the opposite with NN in Cancer, and SN in Capricorn right..?
Does it just keep alternating between the two in future lives?
Like will the nodes be forever stuck on this axis so long as I'm reborn?

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posted December 29, 2021 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello OrbitalFire, 🙋

did you read about this theory ?
I never heard about it so far at least, and according to my memories of past lives and what I saw/read about others' reincarnation lines, I cannot imagine that you are stuck on that axis, going back and forth between it's poles like a ping pong ball.

My guess is that maybe you could be repeating the axis with the same south node as you have now through some or even many incarnations, because you keep the same overall 'imbalance' of experiences and tendencies for more than one incarnation.
But not necessarily, you can balance it and/or have an incarnation inbetween, where other learning tasks than the usual (for your overall situation) are important for the time being, just to add some fresh, new experience and a different perspective for example...

I remember about myself and saw in others mostly many lives with a quite homogeneous view on life and experiences in principle (expressed by SN, asteroid Karma, Saturn and other placements), but inbetween sometimes very different incarnations, but didn't always see the charts of all the incarnations ofcourse, unless from some famous people sometimes.

But I'm not an experienced astrologer, maybe others know more and can correct me, this was just my limited view. 🎄🎄🔔🎀🔔🎄🎄

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posted December 29, 2021 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually I'm not even sure if one has to even ever balance out the own south node completely.
It's your treasure you bring with you, your strenghts, experiences, from which you can give to others and the whole.

And the other side of the coin is that there are some weaknesses as a result of over emphasis of SN-energies and a lack in the NN-area.

Maybe it depends on different factors, how much you should balance the axis or switch to another one.
For example how many lives as a human or other life form you had, therefore what kind of experience is possibly missing...

Or if you have certain goals since/for a long time, through several/many incarnations or not...

With SN in Cancer, lived in an evolved way (!), not forgetting the other pole, you should be able to give a lot of beautiful, warm gifts, comforting the world, so it could be just part of the innate pattern of your soul, that you conciously stand for.

Unless it's just temporarily or inbetween, for some reasons....

My English is not perfect, in case some expressions should sound misunderstandable.

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posted January 05, 2022 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OrbitalFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your reply HeavenlyLove, sorry I did not see this earlier!
So what you are saying is that I could have had different past lives with different North Nodes?
Meaning potentially in the next life I could have a SN completely different to Capricorn (my current NN) due to a different past life lived, not this current life.
Oh dear I hope this makes sense 🤦‍♀️

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posted January 05, 2022 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Orbital Fire, 🙋

I know more about some of my own or some others' past lives
than about the charts I/they had back then, except of a few cases where I know the birth data.

If not I can see and feel into those lives and therefore assume or sometimes even see the south node (the latter only in my own incarnations mostly).

So I am assuming that if some lives inbetween feel/look so different than the 'usual' ones, the south node should be different as well in that specific incarnation, not sure though.
There is some logical problem in it, I know, but if the SN wouldn't change, it would be illogical for another reason (cannot explain too detailed, typing and translating takes ages, visual handicap...).


But after that incarnation it might go back to the usual SN of that period of incarnartions.
It seems to express the summary of your experiences and current energy of a certain archetype/sign/house...(your treasure, where you have a bit more than enough even, so balance is needed in most cases).

This SN-treasure could change over time I guess, but the more incarnations you had, the slower, because one life is then only a small percentage of the summary.

And maybe it won't change anymore at all, because you found your self and purpose.
Or you came from other star systems with a clear purpose and quite mature already, so a certain SN is needed, that stays consistant.

Your higher self might have plans to let you incarnate in other ways, not always incarnated fully into only one body.
That gets more complicated then regarding the SN I guess, I have not so many concious memories of these kinds of constellations yet.
Galactic has been interested in these theories about the higher self...since a long time.

So in total I can't imagine to go back and forth between two poles of one axis too often, except maybe if you need to compensate something urgently, to get the exact opposite viewpoints and experiences of the axis in a way.

I'm sure that was mostly not the case in own and some others' lives I know of.

I will now look at some charts with birth data I have of proven previous incarnations of people, will be back.

If you tell me why you want to know this and why you think that you'll switch back and forth, I could answer more specifically possibly...

Almost everything I wrote here I can see and/or have experienced in the non physical, but earthly words cannot always describe it sufficiantly, specially not in another language than your own.
Just ask anything you like if something is unclear.


And I'm not all-knowing, these are only my experiences so far and maybe there are even parallel realities or whatever, so don't rely on me.

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posted January 05, 2022 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by OrbitalFire:
So if NN is in Capricorn and SN is in Cancer.. Next life will be the opposite with NN in Cancer, and SN in Capricorn right..?

Probably not. There's no rule like that. I believe the Lunar Nodes change from lifetime to lifetime based on what will bring balance to your soul's development. The experiences and growth you have this lifetime will change it.

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Does it just keep alternating between the two in future lives?
Like will the nodes be forever stuck on this axis so long as I'm reborn?

No, definitely not.

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posted January 05, 2022 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not certain if there's an alloted period of time "tween" death and reincarnated lifespan afterwards. Though one thing that might raise my curiosity if it should play a role is the Hyleg angle. It's supposed to represent the chart owner's "vitality, longevity".
It's like the thread given to the one as a measurement of their "time" allotted in this lifetime. Once that runs out it might reflect the next journey. Even Saturn is "time" - he may hold secrets. I think harmonic charts could be of assistance in this.

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posted January 05, 2022 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I did a past life reincarnation analysis that was surprisingly the case and not only the nodes but the planets are in opposition to the past life chart as well. For example if you Have Sun in Gemini next life it will be Sagittarius.

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posted January 05, 2022 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OrbitalFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thankyou to all for your replies.
I didn't have a specific reason for asking this question, just one of the many random moments where these questions pop into my head seemingly out of the blue.

@Kannon thank you for confirming! It didn't seem reasonable to just be stuck between the two

@HeavenlyLove, despite my transiting Neptune in Pisces 12H at the moment, I've not spiritually ascended or tapped into any higher concious or understanding of the spiritual realms / beyond this plane .. unfortunately! This will take more research on my part. Thank you for your detailed responses and for your sharing, I appreciate it. I wish wish had the "access" you have but I've yet to activate any sort of intuitive senses (yet)..

@MoonMystic I was actually reading about Hyleg yesterday during some research into medical astrology. I have been looking at Harmonics charts 9 and 30- which is where we would look to understand our health and longevity. Where we go after death is a fear I've not yet learned to overcome sadly.

@athenegoddess now this is interesting! How do you do a past last reincarnation chart??

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posted January 06, 2022 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by OrbitalFire:
So if NN is in Capricorn and SN is in Cancer.. Next life will be the opposite with NN in Cancer, and SN in Capricorn right..?
Does it just keep alternating between the two in future lives?
Like will the nodes be forever stuck on this axis so long as I'm reborn?

Not at all. That doesn't mean there aren't any patterns to be seen with the Nodes (or astrology in general) in relation to other lives, karma, etc though. Sometimes there are. Btw, direct, literal reincarnations are actually more rare than a a lot of people seem to believe. (There is an exception to the rule, among a particular group of souls, which I will address at the very end below.)

Not a case of direct, literal past life, but OBE author Bob Monroe and afterlife author Bruce Moen were two different souls that were created by and came from the same Higher/Expanded self level. Bruce writes about finding this out in his 3rd book. Bruce and Bob were friends, but Bruce didn't learn about the connection until some time after Bob dropped the body.

Bruce's claim was confirmed to me in a guidance dream where he was teaching a class I was in, and his face morphed to Bob's temporarily and then morphed back to his own.
Anyways, Bob Monroe was older than Bruce and was born under Scorpio Sun. Bruce had Scorpio south node.

Another case. I know of a woman who has Aqua Sun, Venus, and South Node, with the Aqua Venus and SN in the 1st. The person she is connected to (also not a case of literal direct reincarnation but of two Souls coming from the same Higher/Expanded self level), was born under Aquarius Sun, and later died under Aquarius Sun as well.

Another case I know of, also not direct, literal reincarnation, but of two souls coming from the same Higher/Expanded self, the present self has Pisces SN and the person he is connected to was a Pisces Sun. Interestingly, the latter person died when Sun was in Cap, and the former person has Sun in Cap.

Connection between death chart and later birth-natal charts is found in the Edgar Cayce work. For example, there is a case where a soul incarnated into one family, but ended up dying as a baby. She had died on August 24th. According to Cayce's guidance, she reincarnated into another family and was born on August 24th, and Cayce's guidance says something like, "thus a cycle, as recorded in holy writ".

So yes, there can be and sometimes are astrological patterns to be seen between other lives etc, but how common the above are, I don't know. I certainly don't think it happens all the time by any means, and it probably depends on how energetically and karmically connected the individuals are to each other.

The average Higher/Expanded self has created thousands of individualized, self aware, unique, semi-freewilled Souls. Not all of these Souls are strongly connected in an energetic and/or karmic sense, and some of them are as different as night and day. The average Higher/Expanded self has quite a range and spectrum of different kind of consciousnesses that make up their total self, everything from psychopathic lifetimes/individuals to near Buddha types with every shade and flavor in between.

In the above cases, even though none of them are cases of direct, literal reincarnation (which can and does happen, but tends to be rare except for one type/group of souls*), these individuals were strongly connected energetically and karmically beyond just their being part of the same larger, total self. In the case of the Aqua Sun, Venus, SN, etc with the lady who earlier had Aqua Sun and died under Aqua Sun, when the Higher/Expanded self made the former Soul, it put a good chunk or percentage of the latter's memories and energetic patterns within the total soup that made up that soul.

In the case of the man with Pisces SN and the earlier self with Pisces Sun, interestingly, it was the reversed. Even though the former man was born later than the latter man, the former man's Soul existed before the latter's (i.e. the Pisces Sun guy), and when their Higher/Expanded self created the Pisces Sun guy's soul, it put a decent chunk of the former man's memories, energetics, and patterns within that soul.

Because of that, there was a strong energetic resonation between them beyond just their mutual connection to the same larger/total self. Seems to have been similar in Bob Monroe and Bruce Moen's case as well.

The exception to the rule with reincarnation: There is a minority subset or group of Souls that do directly and literally reincarnate A LOT. Bob Monroe in one of his biographies refers to them as "earth life addicts" and Edgar Cayce's guidance refers to them as the "Sons of Belial".

Despite their many, many direct lives/experiences, these are rather young/immature souls. Many are what we could call "dark souls" that are not only psychopathic while connected to a body, but also psychopathic while focused in the nonphysical. But they prefer the physical to the nonphysical and spend very little time in the nonphysical. Generally speaking, the more mature and evolved the soul in question, the more time they spend in the nonphysical between lives--unless they are called into specific service situations as sometimes some very highly evolved/mature souls are.

Anyways, this group/subset of souls is a big reason why humanity is such a mess, because they have a definite pattern of getting into positions and areas in material life wherein they gain a lot of material wealth, status, influence, etc and they are not shy about using it for their own control based agendas. They are spiritually sick/stuck, and severely lack connection to Love and Source consciousness. In the nearish future, after the big changes coming, they will not be allowed to incarnate in this system for awhile until everything is super cleaned up and they cannot mess everything up again. Then they will be allowed to trickle in, if they want to. But many of them won't have much attraction because the conditions on Earth in humanity, will be too fast vibratory for them. They like/resonate with slow vibratory and fast vibratory repels them. To be sure, some of them will try their old shenanigans in the physical in these probable futures, but again, things will be so different that they won't be able to take hold and spread their consciousness virus.

They don't know it yet, but they have already lost this world to the Christ Higher/Expanded self, and did so when a part of that Co-Creator Expanded self incarnated in human form, and overcame the ego and world, and set a consciousness pattern for others to follow. It was the equivalent of a jungle guide cutting a path through dense jungle forest that never overgrows, and that others can follow behind if they would like.

It was a complete game changer on a consciousness level, and sowed the seeds for the transformation of this world. Now all that is needed, is for some other Expanded selves and their connected Souls that incarnate as humans, to fully follow in his footsteps and fulfill his promises to us, and this too is scheduled and very probable to happen. There are like a handful or so of Souls incarnated right now that have that definite potential, and if one of them falls by the wayside (as is quite possible), another will pick up the slack.

These future examples in the flesh of what Christ Consciousness really looks like, combined with the big changes coming, will eventually lead to this world/humanity completely transforming, and in about a thousand years or so, every human alive will be like Yeshua--fully conscious to and expressive of their true, original Source nature and connection. True Sons and Daughters of the Most High, created in It's image and likeness in consciousness (i.e. pure Love, pure positivity, pure creative consciousness).

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posted January 06, 2022 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Angry? Why would I be angry with you, just because you have your opinions and perceptions and I have mine and they don't match in some or many areas? If that was something to make me angry, then I would be angry all the time because I rarely ever find myself in complete or even near complete agreement with others. When it occasionally does happen, I tend to be kind of surprised.

But I do think that I probably should stop engaging with you. You seem to have an unhealthy fixation on me. Unless I feel otherwise nudged, I probably won't be responding to you in the future. You of course, may do as you like--I worry about/focus more on what self does rather than on what others do or don't do.

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posted January 06, 2022 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OrbitalFire previously wrote:


"@MoonMystic I was actually reading about Hyleg yesterday during some research into medical astrology. I have been looking at Harmonics charts 9 and 30- which is where we would look to understand our health and longevity. Where we go after death is a fear I've not yet learned to overcome sadly.

@athenegoddess now this is interesting! How do you do a past last reincarnation chart??"


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You sound as though you've really been exploring. My thoughts are to backwards work. As in seeing the door you walked into as possibly you last Hyleg exit. Which I'm not a statician or mathematical type so I'm not certain to if someone may do this by counting the degrees/houses from the ascending now to see proper distance in their entry point.

As far as your interest in Athenegoddess's approach, I am curious too.

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posted January 06, 2022 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for saronna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know about NN & SN. I don't remember past live SN Leo. I don't know how reincarnation works & if it is soul development with NN & SN. & if SN are our gifts. There is alot of information about NN & SN books but what to believe

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posted January 06, 2022 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unlike you HeavenlyLove, I actually don't refer to myself as "enlightened" (as you have in some of your emails to me). I am quite well aware of my human ego and weaknesses. I know as long as I'm connected to a dense, slow vibratory physical human body, I will always have some ego/fear/selfishness to deal with. No illusions/delusions about that here.

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posted January 06, 2022 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Clearly, me telling you that I didn't have the time and energy for yet another I-net only connection hurt you, but I didn't mean to nor did I want to hurt you. I'm just going to leave it at, I wish you well, and hope for your highest good in your life and on your path.

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I'm at a point in life wherein I'm trying to heal my heart from some very deep and on going pain--the worst emotional pain I have ever experienced, and I have been drug through the mud in this lifetime, repeatedly. Perhaps If I was much more balanced, more positive, feeling great, and more in tune, I would have the time and energy to be there for you, but I just don't.

A lot of what you have said to me recently doesn't even make any sense--like I literally have no idea what you are talking about, and so I just don't respond because it seems like you have already made up a story/account in your mind about things, and if I said something differently, you would just be suspicious that I was lying or "gaslighting" you.

You have a lot of fear, paranoia, over sensitivity, insecurity going on, and that is what I mean by I can't be for there for you in the state that I am in. I have to be self focused and have some definite boundaries and detachment--I have very little healing energy to lend to others right now.

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posted January 06, 2022 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:

So I demand the truth, just as from a few others here.

from what ive seen, you tend to jump to conclusions and then accuse people of things they dont do. and worse, continue to demand apologies or explanations after they have already gone out of their way to try to resolve the situation. seems quite selfish, ungrateful and disrespectful. do you think anyone with healthy boundaries is going to continue to spend precious energy to engage with you until YOU are okay? appreciate what was given. nobody owes you anything in the first place, just because YOU think YOU deserve it. how entitled can you be?

people dont need to communicate like you. the world does not revolve around you and your rules of engagement. you are responsible for how you feel. if you dont like how someone expresses themself, thats your problem. you have the choice to engage or disengage, and so do others - for any reason. demanding others to conform to you is low vibe af, especially for something that is not based on the reality of others. its not a language thing. your actions and energy show more than anything.

people can agree or disagree, with or without a response. there are countless variables for why someone responds or not - discernment to engage/disengage, personal interest/focus, lack of energy/busy with life or other reasons that have nothing to do with you, etc.

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