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InTheStars
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posted January 02, 2022 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Yod:
Mars in 16° Virgo - The Apex
Saturn in 13° Aries
Jupiter in 18° Aquarius

Mars is Retrograde in my chart, if that means anything.

Yods are a fated aspect, so I assume life lessons I have to learn are related to the planetary themes? So anger/purpose, stability, expansion/humanitarianism? Is it a lesson in learning how to blend all three?

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posted January 02, 2022 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The word 'fated' isn't a useful word. If we use that word at all, it can certainly apply to the entire birth chart or anything perceived after it happens as inevitable according to how it matches up with what's in the birth chart.

Yods are formed by 2 quincunxes (150°, "inconjunct" aspects) + one sextile. The quincunx aspect of 150° has a maximum orb of 3°. So be sure it is within that. (Otherwise, it steps on the 144° biquintile or the 154°17' triseptile.)

It is the quincunx that is the challenging aspect and the two of them are what define the aspect most. The quincunx aspect is one of adjustment. It is not the flow of the trine, nor the tension of the opposition, but could go in either direction: harmony/flow or disintegrate into more tension and lack of compromise. With two such aspects of adjustment focused on a single point planet (the stem planet, which you're calling the apex), it becomes the sextile between that directs energy into it.

The focal planet is the energy objective. So in your case, Mars. Such a configuration suggests balance in efforts is needed so that perspective (Jupiter) and sustained efforts towards goals (Saturn) comes together productively. There is a need to learn when inhibition or the 'brake' is appropriate (Saturn) and when it's 'go' time (Jupiter).

Many astrologers speak of this aspects as if a sacrifice is needed. Understand, that is not written in stone as the birth chart shows past soul patterns leading to default tendencies. So a sacrifice is not so much predicted by such an aspect as it is an experience through which the person grows to reach the objects of a better balance of the energies involved here.

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posted January 04, 2022 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 04, 2022 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a lot of articles on this. It takes time and you should understand the rest of the chart to see the LIFE PURPOSE of that person. It is very important and the person is kind of called to do what the Yod is "telling" them to do. If not, they will never feel satisfied.

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posted January 04, 2022 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for InTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are yods rare?

And I've heard that people with yods are supposed to have incredibly hard childhoods or just an extremely difficult life, when mine so far has been the opposite...

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posted January 04, 2022 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have a lot of articles on this. It takes time and you should understand the rest of the chart to see the LIFE PURPOSE of that person. It is very important and the person is kind of called to do what the Yod is "telling" them to do. If not, they will never feel satisfied.



Excellent, I agree totally, they are the Finger of God. 🌄

Could you maybe post one or more of those articles about this please ?

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posted January 04, 2022 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:

Excellent, I agree totally, they are the Finger of God. 🌄

Could you maybe post one or more of those articles about this please ?


Yes, definitely. Any resources you could point to on how I can begin analyzing mine will be very helpful. Do the houses and retrogrades matter as well?

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posted January 04, 2022 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, first let me figure out if I have a yod in the first place. Astro-Charts said I did but it can be inaccurate. Is there a yod here?

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posted January 04, 2022 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I consider Saturn at 13ARI16 to be out of orb of quincunx with Mars at 16VIR49. Well out of orb. So I don't consider this a yod. You've just got the quincunx between Mars & Jupiter.

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posted January 04, 2022 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The quincunx in my experience is the best aspect to have in love relations because it gives a lot of satisfaction and compatibility. In the birth chart it manifests the same energy of harmony so its called a finger of God for this reason. I haven't ever seen it manifest disharmony but it gives more results than anything.

With those planets you mentioned those are important planets and represent long history of your souls karma and evolution. So in this lifetime you will achieve your souls desires and have alot of support from people around you.

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posted January 04, 2022 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to have to meditate on what those planets mean for me...I'm not quite sure yet.

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posted January 04, 2022 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But you have one or two Thor's hammers, babe. 😁
Must look up what the orbs are for them, but one could be the square between Sun and Neptune as the base and Mars as the focus point,
the square is 94°17', so a bit wide, but the focus point is very exact.
So you would still have your beloved Mars as a focus point of a triangle..., just slightly different than you expected...😜
Are you very driven and a fighter for your goals, also if people or circumstances are trying to put blockages in your way ?

The other one could be Uranus square Venus, focus point NN.
The square is quite exact but the focus point not so much, don't know if that one would work, I guess not, with a focus not in the middle, about 4 degrees off, forget about it.

But Uranus in his own sign and Venus as well, that seems an interesting square.
Do you have a very unusual taste ?

Edit to add : Even in their own houses, Venus in Taurus at the cusp of the second
and Uranus in Aquarius in 11th.

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posted January 04, 2022 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:
But you have one or two Thor's hammers, babe. 😁
Must look up what the orbs are for them, but one could be the square between Sun and Neptune as the base and Mars as the focus point,
the square is 94°17', so a bit wide, but the focus point is very exact.
So you would still have your beloved Mars as a focus point of a triangle..., just slightly different than you expected...😜
Are you very driven and a fighter for your goals, also if people or circumstances are trying to put blockages in your way ?

The other one could be Uranus square Venus, focus point NN.
The square is quite exact but the focus point not so much, don't know if that one would work, I guess not, with a focus not in the middle, about 4 degrees off, forget about it.

But Uranus in his own sign and Venus as well, that seems an interesting square.
Do you have a very unusual taste ?

Edit to add : Even in their own houses, Venus in Taurus at the cusp of the second
and Uranus in Aquarius in 11th.


Never heard of Thor's Hammer!

I am very driven, especially for what's right, with my Mars retrograde, I think I need to work to let that energy naturally flow instead of being shy about it. But it often pops out anyway - I'm the unexpected one who defends my friends from shitheads and in ****** situations...

The Venus sq. Uranus - I don't have unusual taste in men at all. I can appreciate nearly all types of guys, but I think if I were to show society at large my romantic interests, they would not run away at the guys of my choice. Likewise with my clothes, etc. But I do value very highly ingenuity and thinking out the box, and I am not afraid to "go there" in my creative expressions...

If Venus/Uranus/NN are making a Thor's Hammer as you say, that just screams unique creative expression is my destiny OR unique love relationships are my destiny, doesn't it to you?

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posted January 05, 2022 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by InTheStars:
Are yods rare?

And I've heard that people with yods are supposed to have incredibly hard childhoods or just an extremely difficult life, when mine so far has been the opposite...



Rare,yes, but you cannot say the childhood was good or bad due to a Yod

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posted January 17, 2022 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for henryhampton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always found Quincunx's fascinating. They are a blend of conscious and unconscious influences I think. It's almost as if you're in-between two worlds with them. As if you know or "feel" something that others don't. I don't think it can be handled without care and love. You know it's something beautiful, yet, it's hard to understand it.

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