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UnaspectedMoon
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posted January 07, 2022 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for UnaspectedMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you deal with a reading like this? Can someone look at my chart and tell me why the astrologer said I wouldn’t have any success?

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Belage
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posted January 07, 2022 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A well reputed vedic astrologer told me I would never be a success at anything. There was a particular curse in my chart that negated all the efforts I would put. It confirmed the nagging feeling I already had that I was cursed, so I was depressed about my life for about 1 year.

Then I said eff it and I snapped out of it. And I refused to accept such a fatalistic verdict. My life turned around and I no longer feel cursed.

I highly suggest you do the same and stop giving power to negative fatalistic astrological readings. Don't use astrology to keep yourself in bondage.

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ilunatique
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posted January 07, 2022 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its possible that the astrologer saw a lot of red/“negative” aspects related to career in your chart. But we all have those around our chart and any aspect has its good and bad side.

Squares? Tensions, but can lead to power, finding your inner power, resources, motivation
Oppositions? Difficult, but you can find common ground and its a gift to have a mix of energies

If i show you my chart - i have the rare “apocalyptic” cross. Yes, my chart is a cross. Red X and the sides all tied with squares. Ive been told its “apocalyptic” because its in fixed signs - so I am screwed no matter what. Also yes, my life has been quite “apocalyptic” but not entirely. I am very functional and happy despite it all - why?.. I go by solve et coagula ..

There is also the scary anaretic degree… but i find it the most interesting

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Belage
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posted January 07, 2022 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by UnaspectedMoon:
How do you deal with a reading like this? Can someone look at my chart and tell me why the astrologer said I wouldn’t have any success?

Did you ask the astrologer why he/she said that?

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posted January 08, 2022 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Readings like this really rub me the wrong way. What is succes anyway? Is it what other people think of you? Or do you have the power to declare yourself a succes or not? I feel very strongly that I'm the only one that can determine if I have been succesful at something or not. After all, I set my own goals. And that can be difficult enough. To prioritize and focus on what you really find important and not what other people think you should do, that's a real challenge. But also very much worth while.

"I did what I had to do
And saw it through without exemption
I planned each charted course
Each careful step along the byway
And more, much more than this, I did it my way"

Frank Sinatra - My Way

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HeavenlyLove
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posted January 08, 2022 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If he really said it like that,
he is either very inexperienced
or unconciously/half conciously wants to feel better about his own 'success',
by seeing at least some others as hopelessly unsuccessful
and making them feel that emotion instead of feeling it in himself.

We are each given a gift.

Maybe he cannot see his own treasure
and found it unjust when he saw/felt yours in you.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Lpv77EdxF4

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Kannon McAfee
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posted January 10, 2022 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THIS.

quote:
Originally posted by Belage:
A well reputed vedic astrologer told me I would never be a success at anything. There was a particular curse in my chart that negated all the efforts I would put. It confirmed the nagging feeling I already had that I was cursed, so I was depressed about my life for about 1 year.

Then I said eff it and I snapped out of it. And I refused to accept such a fatalistic verdict. My life turned around and I no longer feel cursed.

I highly suggest you do the same and stop giving power to negative fatalistic astrological readings. Don't use astrology to keep yourself in bondage.


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Kannon McAfee
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posted January 10, 2022 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is my opinion as an astrologer of 20+ years that astrologers have no business giving people 'never' interpretations.

It shows a couple things:
(1) the astrologer frames astrology or particular kinds of factors negatively in their minds without the awareness of or practice at describing positive potentials for any 'negative' factor;
(2) the astrologer does not fully respect human agency — the free will power to choose and change — in each person.
Those are not the astrologers to go to.

If an astrologer does not respect your free will, why waste time with them?

Maybe more importantly, YOU define what is 'success' for you. YOU decide when/if you've met that.

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hypatia238
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posted January 10, 2022 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Belage:
A well reputed vedic astrologer told me I would never be a success at anything. There was a particular curse in my chart that negated all the efforts I would put. It confirmed the nagging feeling I already had that I was cursed, so I was depressed about my life for about 1 year.

Then I said eff it and I snapped out of it. And I refused to accept such a fatalistic verdict. My life turned around and I no longer feel cursed.

I highly suggest you do the same and stop giving power to negative fatalistic astrological readings. Don't use astrology to keep yourself in bondage.


Hellll yeah!

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hypatia238
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posted January 10, 2022 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by UnaspectedMoon:
How do you deal with a reading like this? Can someone look at my chart and tell me why the astrologer said I wouldn’t have any success?

This is why I don't like Vedic astrology, find the strengths in your chart and take it from there, if you that you will find a way to succeed. Also, you get to define what success means to you.

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hypatia238
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posted January 10, 2022 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
It is my opinion as an astrologer of 20+ years that astrologers have no business giving people 'never' interpretations.

It shows a couple things:
(1) the astrologer frames astrology or particular kinds of factors negatively in their minds without the awareness of or practice at describing positive potentials for any 'negative' factor;
(2) the astrologer does not fully respect human agency — the free will power to choose and change — in each person.
Those are not the astrologers to go to.

If an astrologer does not respect your free will, why waste time with them?

Maybe more importantly, YOU define what is 'success' for you. YOU decide when/if you've met that.



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Randall
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posted January 16, 2022 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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henryhampton
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posted January 16, 2022 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for henryhampton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Readings like this really rub me the wrong way. What is succes anyway? Is it what other people think of you? Or do you have the power to declare yourself a succes or not? I feel very strongly that I'm the only one that can determine if I have been succesful at something or not. After all, I set my own goals. And that can be difficult enough. To prioritize and focus on what you really find important and not what other people think you should do, that's a real challenge. But also very much worth while.

"I did what I had to do
And saw it through without exemption
I planned each charted course
Each careful step along the byway
And more, much more than this, I did it my way"

Frank Sinatra - My Way


Yeah, I agree. A person could be successful in that they feel spiritually healthy or spiritually enlightened and success isn't just measured by their "career" endeavours anyways. You could be a serial killer and have a good "career."

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HeavenlyLove
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posted January 16, 2022 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by henryhampton:
Yeah, I agree. A person could be successful in that they feel spiritually healthy or spiritually enlightened and success isn't just measured by their "career" endeavours anyways. You could be a serial killer and have a good "career."


Thanks so much,
you've been sent to help me to finally find my true calling :
A spiritually healthy and enlightened serial killer.
🔫😇 🤑 🤑 😇💣

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hypatia238
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posted January 16, 2022 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:

Thanks so much,
you've been sent to help me to finally find my true calling :
A spiritually healthy and enlightened serial killer.
🔫😇 🤑 🤑 😇💣


hahahahahahahahahaahahaahahahahah

OMG loved this hahahahahahahahaha

Hugs

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hypatia238
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posted January 16, 2022 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by henryhampton:
Yeah, I agree. A person could be successful in that they feel spiritually healthy or spiritually enlightened and success isn't just measured by their "career" endeavours anyways. You could be a serial killer and have a good "career."

Welcome to Lindaland!

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henryhampton
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posted January 16, 2022 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for henryhampton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:

Thanks so much,
you've been sent to help me to finally find my true calling :
A spiritually healthy and enlightened serial killer.
🔫😇 🤑 🤑 😇💣


No problem, anytime. So basically Charles Manson is your role model, then? Lol (yep, I just went there)

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posted January 16, 2022 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for henryhampton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Welcome to Lindaland!


Oh, hey, thanks!

I can only hope that the delight as well as enthusiasm maintains its way far surpassed just simple salutations! Lol

I enjoy this community so far.

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HeavenlyLove
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posted January 17, 2022 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by henryhampton:
No problem, anytime. So basically Charles Manson is your role model, then? Lol (yep, I just went there)


Actually I wanted to continue joking, but read his biography this night and about the victims...(I'm not in the US, didn't know the details).
I hope he can be a mirror in a way, for all of us, since everybody has the potential to live such inner patterns in principle...
He sure had a traumatic childhood, I felt compassion for that little boy back then.
Still didn't give him the right to never question his delusions and murder innocent people...

By the way - my joke had not in the slightest anything to do with you, in case you were wondering, since you are new...
Welcome. 🙋

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HeavenlyLove
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posted January 17, 2022 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
hahahahahahahahahaahahaahahahahah

OMG loved this hahahahahahahahaha

Hugs



Hugs back, I was also laughing, it's healthy. 😁

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HeavenlyLove
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posted January 17, 2022 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:
If he really said it like that,
he is either very inexperienced
or unconciously/half conciously wants to feel better about his own 'success',
by seeing at least some others as hopelessly unsuccessful
and making them feel that emotion instead of feeling it in himself.

We are each given a gift.

Maybe he cannot see his own treasure
and found it unjust when he saw/felt yours in you.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Lpv77EdxF4



When I wrote this, I had just experienced something unpleasent before, so my viewpoint was a bit influenced by that and maybe too negative...

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posted January 17, 2022 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone was made to have something to give to the others and/or to God!

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henryhampton
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posted January 17, 2022 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for henryhampton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:

Actually I wanted to continue joking, but read his biography this night and about the victims...(I'm not in the US, didn't know the details).
I hope he can be a mirror in a way, for all of us, since everybody has the potential to live such inner patterns in principle...
He sure had a traumatic childhood, I felt compassion for that little boy back then.
Still didn't give him the right to never question his delusions and murder innocent people...

By the way - my joke had not in the slightest anything to do with you, in case you were wondering, since you are new...
Welcome. 🙋


Lol, chill. It's fine. You're fine. The world isn't going to explode for mentioning his name. He's a psychopath and that's all anyone needs to know. It's not a secret and idc about his biography, either (no offense). No justification. I was joking as well. I was just giving you a hard time since idk how to express myself in certain situations a lot of times. (pretty much this is what the vast majority of people do in social situations, so I'm just going to follow suit so I don't make anyone else feel weird or uncomfortable) (hardly anyone in this lifetime will truly know me well enough, I'm too bizarre to even handle myself) Thanks for the welcome, nonetheless.

With that being said though, I never meant to hijack the OP's thread in any way, although for some reason I always tend to have a prominent influence on people no matter where I go or what I say, which ****** me off honestly. (I'd rather just skate through life like everyone else can, and not be so intense, but.... nevertheless, I suppose God has created power within the stars and planets) In either case, to the OP, no one should tell you what you're able to accomplish or not accomplish in this life, or in any life of yours. You hold all of the keys to whatever "success" you deem as fit for your life. Life is complicated, and only a narcissist speaks in absolutes about a life that isn't their own life. That's ridiculous....

Even if it was an "astrologer" (doesn't sound like a very sound one, or person at that with that kind of advice). Even some of the hardest aspects in a natal chart has pros and cons. Even some of the most pleasant aspects have its pros and cons. Sometimes people do have to work harder for things, but it doesn't make it unattainable in the slightest. You just have to have the courage to go after it.

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posted January 17, 2022 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, don't worry either, I didn't think you were giving me a hard time or that you're weird, intense or bizarre...

I was just not sure if you COULD have maybe misunderstood my joke...and got a bit serious because of that guy's biography...

In a forum where you see nothing but letters about the other one, nobody gets perceived as they really are, I have that problem all the time.

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posted January 17, 2022 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoever this guy is he's a punk even if your chart seemed challenging that's nothing to say to somebody . U can do whatever you put your mind to

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