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plutonianmenace
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posted January 26, 2022 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I don't even know where to start so all I can really do is ramble on and flow until it makes sense. I've been inactive on here for a bit because so much has come at me and what's even more scary is that my Saturn will go exact on January 28 which is only a couple days out from now. So in a couple days, Saturn will go 15 degrees into Aquarius and natally, my Saturn is in Aquarius. Soon I might even post it on here as much as I prefer not to.

My Saturn sits in Aquarius and is in my 6th house if Placidus and 7th house if whole.

It all started at the start of 2021, ways away from Saturn entering within that 5 degree scope of Aquarius but I cannot even think about back then as much. The reason it is so tough for me to think about those times is because I have come to realize just how angry, spiteful, resentful, and hateful of a person I was back then. Perhaps the people that got it the worst were my overbearing parents who ruined so much of my youth.

Saturn opposes my Sun, Mercury, and my Venus (all planets which are also in the 12th house) so issues with my parents was a given, particularly my father. I grew up very repressed with parents, mainly my father, that had their hand in all areas of my life and did not let me become independent. Even into my college days, my parents tried to run my life and control every aspect of it, it was mainly my father. My confidence suffered and I sat on the sidelines, not being that guy I always wanted to be who was popular, doing well with women, and respected.

I knew I wasn't happy in my adolescence and it wasn't until my early 20s that I would learn just how bad my parents had treated me. Not just my parents, but also society at large in the town I grew up in. Slowly, that resentment built up but I kept it all bottled up. The best years of my life during college, down the toilet because of the damage my parents had done. Around the age of 24, I finally stuck up to my parents, especially my father and managed to go down my own path in life. Yet, I wasn't done despite having broken free because my parents and I kept in touch.

Over the next few years, I would keep that resentment towards my parents and the town I had left. I wrote hateful letters to my father and even told him a few times I'd have been better off if he was dead. At times, I even made fun of my father's appearance and mocked him for not reaching a high ceiling in his career. My dad attempted to make things work between us but I had so much resentment in how he raised me that I threw nothing but hatred back at him. All he had done was tell me I wasn't good enough in my youth and stopped me from being independent, why can it not be my turn?

I still had validation issues due to not being one of the popular kids in my youth, whether high school or college. I was a dork, a lame, and not the guy the hot girls wanted to get with. Not the guy taken seriously and the guy there for comic relief. It drove me to a lot of bitterness because I bloomed late and was playing catchup when it came to social skills versus other kids who found their way fast.

I had went from a bigger city to my dream city and in a way, I had made it in my mind. I was in the big leagues now and around guys way cooler than any hick back home and women way more beautiful than any small town broad, yeah bad language from me here but that is where I was at mentally. So what if those kids in the old town or in my college saw me as less? I had ascended most of them. Yet, I never enjoyed it on the inside and used this as an opportunity to peddle my hate.

Now I had started to see myself as too good for my own parents and anything relating to the old town. I would never call my mother or father and at times, even laugh in my head of the misery they would go through.

My dad reaches out.

I had long been insulting my dad at every turn and sending him hateful emails. One time, he reached out to tell me about his miserable youth and what he was going through which made him act the way he did. What he does is tell me about how my mother put him in such a tough spot and then I slowly soften up a bit.

My sister, cousin, and brother had a trip planned and I thought it was just going to be me and him. I go and meet him in the city but then brother tells me mom and dad are visiting too. The first day of the trip, I tell him to not let them know I am visiting. Then, I have a change of heart a day after that and surprise them, they were happy to see me. It made somewhat of an impact and I felt somewhat happy but deep down inside, I was angry and bitter, still.

Then the news comes.

About a year ago, I get a random text from my sister saying that our dad has fallen and an ambulance is surrounding him. Apparently, when my brother gets to ER with my mom, we get told it seems like he has had a heart attack. An hour later, doctor calls and tells me that my father was checked into the ER of a heart attack and he has passed. I was crushed, maybe I should have cried more but just like that, crushed.

I'd go back home to find my mother broken and very miserable, unhinged even. After visiting the old town, that inner smugness in me remained. How dare she shout at me. I even talked to my brother about how pathetic our mother is for not being able to function on her own but deep down, I was still upset at her being one of the main people that held me back from growing up in life. That resentment in me, it was still there.

Not much else was good either but I used casual sex and alcohol to cope.

Yeah, I was one of the ******* cool kids now getting laid and drinking like a college kid while making bank. I almost abandoned my mother and even ignored her calls as much as I could. In a way, it made me feel powerful even though on the inside I knew I was being a bad person but the world was never good to me so why should I be the one to be good?

At work, I got passed up for a promotion twice when I clearly deserved it. It wasn't due to results either, it's just that certain people hated me. Hey but I was getting laid and partying while living in an awesome city, screw the world.

Then as 2021 went on, it all became too much to ignore.

The city I had loved so much for having saved me from my old label of being that social outcast loser was a former shell of itself. COVID had shut down most of the nightlife and locals were on edge, as divided as ever. Confrontations became all the more common and people turned on each other. Crime rose by a lot and I was at the end of a couple of confrontations myself. My rent went up as I lived in an apartment where mail at times cannot even be delivered properly.

Finally, I said screw it and moved to a state with less COVID restrictions and a thriving area of the country.

Things were starting to go well as 2021 progressed.

I feel as if I got better at dealing with nonsense. Things got under my skin less and even with past resentment, I feel as if it was going away. My pleasure in life came less from validation from others and more from just finding some solitude. I'd love seeing the sun set at a park all by myself and cared less for a night out at a club where I could show off and meet women. It's like without me even trying as much, some old and resentful side of me was slowly dying. I wasn't becoming forgiving as much as I was just starting to slowly move on.

It's as if I started to embrace my inner 12th house instead of being embarrassed by it in a way. I didn't care for social acceptance or anything anymore, I wanted ME time.

And 2022 starts off with a bang.

Late 2021 (December), Saturn started to be in that 5 degree range to where it came closer to being exact. I visited my mom for Christmas and things were quite chill between us and my brother, they were almost perfect and serene.

Well, 2022 certainly started off with a massive bang. For starters, I got the news that I will be moved to a new team and a new part of the company which pays a lot more and has better work hours. Certainly good news but at the same time, all of the people I had grown close to had also moved on as the company was going through some changes.

I also started to call my mother daily because I was thinking what now? Why keep seeing her as an enemy? I just made it a point to keep calling her.

Then comes yet another dangerous curveball.

I visit my mom again about a couple of weeks ago but something seems off. She comes out complaining the whole night and my brother has had enough, he shouts at her and threatens to leave. She will not leave him alone so he just gets up from his visit with her and gets in the car, she cries and begs him to not go. I go with my brother because I cannot let him drive angry on a highway.

Not long after, she calls us crying but then I notice her voice goes silent. She is on speaker and then choking in the background. I get worried and tell my brother to turn the car around which he does, he even speeds back home.

We arrive to find her on the floor, half of her face almost green, and I do CPR on her which strangely works and brings her back. She says she always falls and we come to find how bad her condition is.

My crazy decision.

Things were going well in my new city and here I am back home in the same hick town I swore I would get out of.

I decide to stay for a month and my employer has let me work remote for a month onwards to handle family things.

It really hit me though, am I ready to lose another family member?

My sister never liked my mom for how she treated her and she is still distant with the family. My brother found mom to be too toxic.

I decide to say screw it and stay with my mom now in my old hick town.

I talk to her and give her company to learn her story only to find how poorly my dad treated her.

My Saturn goes exact this Friday, I do not know what happens.

If it is bad, I want to be on the receiving end for all of it.

Take me but no more of my family.

If I had it my way, I'd keep training to get my mother independent on her own where she can fend for herself and then go back to the great life I was starting to live in a new city where I had set up shop.

Who knows anymore.

Who knows what anymore.

I've shared too much.

But I had to let it out.

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posted January 26, 2022 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry you are going thru tough times. venting is healthy and the transparency is admirable. on the good side, seems like saturn is bestowing much wisdom on you.

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posted January 26, 2022 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
+1 to what Sauerkraut said.

I've been told by internal guidance that we go through tough times as an impetus and catalyst for Soul growth. Our Higher/Expanded self, the part of us that is wiser, more aware, and creates us soul extensions for human incarnations and other experiences, ONLY cares about spiritual/consciousness growth. It will put us Soul extensions through any and everything to try to spark that.

The human ego sometimes needs to be utterly broken down so that a crack can appear to let some Light in... These cycles primarily correspond to Saturn and Pluto, though Uranus and Neptune often "help out" in some ways as well. Then the Angular Houses and 8, and 12 are often part of these kind of cycles, often in combo with those above planets.

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posted January 27, 2022 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn rules Aquarius. It is strong there.

The planets are not our enemies. At least, I don't see them that way anymore.

Saturn is the ultimate teacher and task master. Saturn return means there are lessons to learn. Just embrace the lessons. You will be okay.

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posted January 27, 2022 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it goes exact tomorrow.

Oh boy!

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Hang in there, buddy. Some growth has growing pains, but it will settle down.

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Hmmm...i am assuming Asc is in Leo with Sco on the Ic right? The family drama is intense.😶

The sudden loss of Dad is Ura trans the Mc opp Ic(changes in the home front). Ura is sudden change (even loss) and add to that change is the career adjustments you spoke of.

Uranus is not done. It'll continue to make those changes career wise. So you will likely not be settled for a while.

It'll also make changes at home. Some unpredictable situations on the domestic front. It'll be an interesting +/- 7 years from here on for home/career.

Saturn transiting the 7th is social isolation from familiar groups( this especially in Aqua). So i don't think that that will be ending soon.

You may have to stick around your old neighbourhood longer than wanted. Either you'll connect with the locals and feel just how "out" you are. Or you will spend a greater deal of time alone because you don't connect with anyone.

Sat opp the Asc by default of transiting the Dsc suggests that you may get added responsibility. You will have to be the "grown up". It won't be about "fun" but about being response-able.

That is why u are putting your partying behind you. Coz even if you do it now, it'll lack that same satisfaction. Saturn sobers things up.

Jupiter is currently transiting your 8th. You may crave a more "intimate" relationship with someone. Someone whom you can offload on with regards to all that you are going through.

With Jupiter in Pisces(domicile), you may actually find that support you want 🤷🏿‍♂️. Sex may take on a whole new meaning for you for instance. A deeper one. A more meaningful and spiritual one etc.

The possibility of reconnecting with your Dad via your dreams or feeling a better connection to him now than when you did when he was alive, is strong. Jup in Pis in 8th can open you up to that type of experience.

I wonder if there is also a possibility of discovering something about him.that benefits you that he left behind? 8th is also about legacies. Or perhaps the benefit here is that you finally let go of the past and forgive?🤔. Time will tell.

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posted January 30, 2022 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HA! 7 years

yeah

NO!

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posted February 01, 2022 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@plutonianmenace, Saturn makes us work hard but there will be benefits in the end. And I think you can already be proud of the progress you have made. You're making your own decision based on your own values and not those of others. Continue to grow as a person and it will bring you good things. I believe this is the only way you can truly achieve the things in life that will fullfill you. You might not have anything tangible to show for it now, but you are and will be a better person because of it.

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posted February 01, 2022 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Saturn went exact Friday and is basically on the same position since birth both today and will be tomorrow too. Stuff like this makes you believe in astrology because my Saturn is in the 6th house, Aqua. Just so happens that my work responsibilities this week almost quadruple and I am having to figure things out on the fly. It's almost tested my maturity and asked how well I can adjust to surprises as well as take ownership with no guidance at all.

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Waw Plutonianmenace, you're having one intense Saturn return.
During my Saturn return back in 2012 it was super intense for me too. I just had my first child few months the exact conjunction, and when the it was few degrees from the return my problems started, with medical issues no doctor could explain or find the cause. I thought I was dying and with a small baby, that's really not something I could accept. So after all the medical examination possible I went to a psichoterapist. After 3 months I was 80% better, after a year I was ok, I found a new inner stability and strength.
My life flipped upside down with the birth of my daughter, it didn't came natural to me to accept this enormous feeling of responsibility and the thought that I will never be careless again was hunting me big time.
Also I had to move to my parents house for 8 months with baby an my partner, it was a nightmare 😂. Luckily we were able to move to our own place after those 8 months and things slowly got better.

Saturn return, not an easy transition into a new version of yourself. But I belive that along with our challenges we also get the power to transcend them. 💜

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posted February 08, 2022 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepBlue:
Waw Plutonianmenace, you're having one intense Saturn return.
During my Saturn return back in 2012 it was super intense for me too. I just had my first child few months the exact conjunction, and when the it was few degrees from the return my problems started, with medical issues no doctor could explain or find the cause. I thought I was dying and with a small baby, that's really not something I could accept. So after all the medical examination possible I went to a psichoterapist. After 3 months I was 80% better, after a year I was ok, I found a new inner stability and strength.
My life flipped upside down with the birth of my daughter, it didn't came natural to me to accept this enormous feeling of responsibility and the thought that I will never be careless again was hunting me big time.
Also I had to move to my parents house for 8 months with baby an my partner, it was a nightmare 😂. Luckily we were able to move to our own place after those 8 months and things slowly got better.

Saturn return, not an easy transition into a new version of yourself. But I belive that along with our challenges we also get the power to transcend them. 💜


My god that is intense!

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posted February 08, 2022 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Saturn is now around 16 degrees in Aquarius but apparently, I will feel the effects of it until at least it is past the 21 degrees mark due to the 5 degrees on either side saying. I am going to try and update this thread as much as I can and almost treat it as my own journal.

2/8/22

I feel like I have been miserable to some degree but it is the kind of misery someone can live with. It's been frustrating to me to be back home in my hick town where I grew up and desperately wanted to get out of. I mean as right leaning as I may be politically, this place is a freaking mess, even Urban Dictionary has the worst descriptions of it that get the most upvotes. Somehow though, it doesn't affect me as much because I am here for a purpose.

At this point, I feel like I am playing the role of parent for my mom. My mom cannot live alone in the home and she cannot survive here. We also have a couple of old sketchy neighbors as well who she seems to be afraid of. Funny thing is that my dad was buddy buddy with them and my mom seems to be afraid of them now. I'll have to keep an eye out but it has become our plan to just get her the hell out of this town soon enough.

Then work, oh yes, work. Company got acquired this year for a lot of money and they just reduced headcount by a lot. I am lucky to have survived but man, it has been tough as heck because of the amount that is on my plate. My Saturn is in the 6th house so this makes sense. I go well past 5 PM on most days and the new Director I have is somewhat discouraging and distant as well.

I'll add more soon.

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posted February 18, 2022 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2/18/22

Well, I sure as hell have not had the chance to post here at all in recent weeks because life has been that tough. I am learning the importance of certain things like boundaries, guilt, and helping people. At this point, I am to the extent where once things are done medically for my mother, I am going to head back to the city life.

Before I came, I was calling my mom daily and it made her happy. So I think about what brought me back and to a degree, I was running away from something. My coworkers, two of whom I have had a very intense relationship with but thankfully we were remote, were set to meet up in person. I had never met them before and thankfully they were remote. I didn't want to meet them in person and used seeing my mom as an excuse not to. Even though I put on the act of doing something noble, in the end I was really just running from something.

Given the 6th house themes, it does get me just how much my life has declined in a month in my old town. The house makes me sick and I have noticed my allergies going into overdrive. I also started to have health issues here I have not had back home in the city. Ended up getting into a massive fight with my mom a few days ago because I felt angry at her health situation chewing away from me getting to enjoy my prime of life.

It is frustrating because no matter what I do, she won't get it. She keeps crying about my dad passing away, takes no action for her life, does not prioritize her health as she should, and instead tries to tell us how to live our lives when we are independent and she cannot survive on her own. At this point, I am close to giving up on her. I have got to a point of realizing that you just cannot help some people, no matter what you do. I cannot have my own life go to the wayside when I have fought so hard for independence from this hellhole town and my overbearing parents.

All in all, this thing is a shitshow.

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posted March 09, 2022 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3/9/22

Been meaning to update this sucker since forever but this is how much of a dump my life has been. I go back to the city life this weekend and the past month has been miserable. I have learned that my mother is a very toxic person that is beyond any help and loves to play lifelong victim. In all fairness to her though, my dad was an abusive scumbag but now I feel like there is only so much I can do without sacrificing my own well-being.

In the past month, I have put on the pounds and my allergies have gone into overdrive in my town. I can look back and say that I did all I could to help my mom but I think that you can only help people so much. In the end, you can't really help people that refused to be helped and no matter what you do, disrespect you or feel sorry for you. I swear, if she was not in a bad health condition, I would have left a long while ago.

It's all so unfair, me having to put my life on pause because my mom wants to play the child in this situation and refuses to take care of herself. I have tried to teach her how to use technology and she refuses to learn. Meanwhile, I have a nice apartment in another city that I tried like hell to get and make a new life in, it is collecting dust now because I could not be there. My entire life has been put on a major pause because of one helpless family member that refuses to help themselves. I have had enough and learned that you can only help so much but if someone is so hellbent on being a victim and being miserable, get the hell out of there before they also ruin your life.

Now I have a lot of catching up to do and I will not be guilt tripped by some lifelong victim that hates taking responsibility for anything in their lives. I feel like I have done my part and there is no winning with someone that wants to argue, use guilt trips, and be a hardcore narcissist. If my dad was alive, I would not have even tried to make life better for this woman but here I am left with this burden that has degraded my life in a big way.

I also think about the root cause and I realize that karma is punishing me because I did not come from a genuine place. TBH, I wanted to see my mom because it overlapped with a work meetup where I would have to meet with some of the most toxic coworkers I've had, including one manipulative psycho kunt trying to get me fired. Somehow I used the visiting of my mom as some sort of a moral justification and now karma is beating me for it. What was supposed to be a week long trip turned into one past a month because my mom had a nasty stroke.

Screw this life, I beg for the light at the end of this god forsaken tunnel.

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posted March 09, 2022 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, good news is that trans Saturn is moving away from your natal Saturn🤷🏿‍♂️.

But then there is the transVen/Mars conj in Aqua coming that will conj your natal Saturn(I am assuming it's at 16 Deg?). Some turbulence there. A possible heated exchange charged with emotions with someone you are close to? 🤔

Add to that, Uranus hasn't even started yet(if Sat is at 16 degrees). So there is likely some inconvenient (but very necessary) situation that will come and disrupt things.

I always think that Uranus disrupts things for the better. But when it happens, it certainly doesn't feel that way🤔. At least not when you are in the eye of the storm.

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posted March 10, 2022 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well, good news is that trans Saturn is moving away from your natal Saturn🤷🏿‍♂️.

But then there is the transVen/Mars conj in Aqua coming that will conj your natal Saturn(I am assuming it's at 16 Deg?). Some turbulence there. A possible heated exchange charged with emotions with someone you are close to? 🤔

Add to that, Uranus hasn't even started yet(if Sat is at 16 degrees). So there is likely some inconvenient (but very necessary) situation that will come and disrupt things.

I always think that Uranus disrupts things for the better. But when it happens, it certainly doesn't feel that way🤔. At least not when you are in the eye of the storm.


What is the date for the Uranus to start then?

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posted March 10, 2022 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What is the date for the Uranus to start then?

Early June it will square your Saturn tightly. Then go retro in Sep till Dec , then back to square your natal Saturn until early 2023.

All the best😁

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posted March 10, 2022 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So life does not get good until 2024 huh.

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posted March 28, 2022 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup, definitely been poor with this, definitely poor. I ended coming back home to the city and things have definitely been going a lot better ever since. Mom thanked me and said I did good enough to take care of her but now my brothers are getting more involved as well. At the same time, I kind of feel it. I feel that old me coming back in a way. I like to call it the cerebral me.

In the past few years, I'd say 2019 or so, I had become very complacent in life. I was going out a lot to party, collecting a paycheck, and not really improving. I would have hints of coming back to sone kind of a routine to plan a better future for myself but it never happened. It was always an on and off thing and may still be but I am finding myself slowly adapting some routines like Intermittent Fasting for good.

Slowly but surely, I am getting back to the old methodical and strategic me. I have journaled my life plans like I used to years back and it is helping me get some direction. Now I do expect a lot more roadblocks as 2022 and 2023 are not looking to be my years but I am most proud of how well I have been able to almost parry the roadblocks and react to them, not getting emotionally rattled.

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posted March 28, 2022 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Saturn is in your 6th House and you’re a Virgo Moon so increasing structure in your life and working on your health will probably benefit you. I actually lost a lot of weight last year by replacing some of my carbohydrates with protein. I didn’t go completely keto because that is just too extreme for me and it turned out I didn’t need it. No bread, pasta or rice for lunch but a lot of vegetables with some egg, chicken or salmon. Working at home has its benefits. It took me more than 6 months but I did reach my goal.

I am also a Virgo Moon and my mother has embraced victimhood like no other. She feels like the world is against her and desperately wants someone to take care of her. But you can never do enough. I’m patient with her, but she can suck the energy right out of me. Be kind and be empathetic but also respect your own boundaries. You can’t help anyone if it’s messing up your own mental health.

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posted March 28, 2022 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Your Saturn is in your 6th House and you’re a Virgo Moon so increasing structure in your life and working on your health will probably benefit you. I actually lost a lot of weight last year by replacing some of my carbohydrates with protein. I didn’t go completely keto because that is just too extreme for me and it turned out I didn’t need it. No bread, pasta or rice for lunch but a lot of vegetables with some egg, chicken or salmon. Working at home has its benefits. It took me more than 6 months but I did reach my goal.

I am also a Virgo Moon and my mother has embraced victimhood like no other. She feels like the world is against her and desperately wants someone to take care of her. But you can never do enough. I’m patient with her, but she can suck the energy right out of me. Be kind and be empathetic but also respect your own boundaries. You can’t help anyone if it’s messing up your own mental health.


Whey has been a savior for me, throw it in there with some peanut butter and banana while adding almond milk in a mixture and I am knocking out like 60g of Protein in one sitting sometimes.

We have a lot in common and yes, my mom is like that as well. Completely agree in that you can never do enough. Ever since getting away from home, I am healthier mentally and feel better too. TBH, I believe my mom was like that towards my dad too and it got him to the point where his health suffered as a result of it. I realize that distance and boundaries are the best friend while also keeping positive emotions. I really do not know outside of a nursing home what can really help.

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posted March 31, 2022 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun conjunct Saturn in the 12th house. I recently had my Saturn return and my mom died when it was exact. I'm still waiting to bloom. I'm 31 and still a complete failure with women. The Sun is my 7th house ruler and it is conjunct Saturn, so maybe that will change.

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posted April 01, 2022 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So life does not get good until 2024 huh.

Lol. I wouldn't say that. But it may get a little 'leaner' than what you were used to before.

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posted April 01, 2022 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lol. I wouldn't say that. But it may get a little 'leaner' than what you were used to before.

"leaner" as in?

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