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Topic: Which chart type represents your higher or expanded self?
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Stargirl2122 Knowflake Posts: 75 From: Pittsburgh, Pa U.S Registered: Apr 2021
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posted January 27, 2022 12:52 PM
Which chart type do you resonate the most with as being your soul level/higher self and why? What in the chart makes you feel this way? What trends stand out to you across all your charts? For example, in both my draconic AND my Navasma I am a 12th house Scorpio Moon and Sag ASC. Being that both "soul" chart types have both of these the same I feel it starts to paint a picture of my true higher self. 1. Draconic 2. Helio 3. Navasma or D-9 4. Other harmonic (D-12) Most of what I have read is that our regular natal is us in this incarnation but obviously includes connections to our higher/expanded self. I would love for others to weigh in as there isn't as much literature and data on these chart types, but definitely feel to really have a native understand themself, you need more than just the Birth chart and need to look to one or all of these. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1625 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted January 29, 2022 04:12 PM
Tbh, I don't have any experience with those other chart systems, so can't comment on that aspect. But I see our Higher/Expanded self primarily connected to and represented by the symbols of Sun and Jupiter for our little system and set of symbols. However, expanding the scope a bit, we could also include symbols like Arcturus and Polaris, which represent gateways/portals into greater, more expanded systems than ours, which we can't get into until we've become more conscious of and attuned with our Expanded/Higher self in this system, which again, goes back to Sun and Jupiter. Everything, literally everything, is vibrational in nature, and what determines the difference and similarity between different things, individuals, conditions, etc, is the specific rate of vibration, which if we want to borrow a material oriented term--we could use wavelength. A Stellar system represents a specific range of wavelength of its various dimensions, from its slowest vibratory rate to its fastest. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 153839 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2022 05:11 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 153839 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2022 09:55 PM
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9106 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 12, 2022 11:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2: Tbh, I don't have any experience with those other chart systems, so can't comment on that aspect. But I see our Higher/Expanded self primarily connected to and represented by the symbols of Sun and Jupiter for our little system and set of symbols. However, expanding the scope a bit, we could also include symbols like Arcturus and Polaris, which represent gateways/portals into greater, more expanded systems than ours, which we can't get into until we've become more conscious of and attuned with our Expanded/Higher self in this system, which again, goes back to Sun and Jupiter. Everything, literally everything, is vibrational in nature, and what determines the difference and similarity between different things, individuals, conditions, etc, is the specific rate of vibration, which if we want to borrow a material oriented term--we could use wavelength. A Stellar system represents a specific range of wavelength of its various dimensions, from its slowest vibratory rate to its fastest.
Your answers are always so thought provoking 🤔. Very insightful 👏🏿 IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9106 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 12, 2022 11:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by Stargirl2122: Which chart type do you resonate the most with as being your soul level/higher self and why? What in the chart makes you feel this way? What trends stand out to you across all your charts? For example, in both my draconic AND my Navasma I am a 12th house Scorpio Moon and Sag ASC. Being that both "soul" chart types have both of these the same I feel it starts to paint a picture of my true higher self. 1. Draconic 2. Helio 3. Navasma or D-9 4. Other harmonic (D-12) Most of what I have read is that our regular natal is us in this incarnation but obviously includes connections to our higher/expanded self. I would love for others to weigh in as there isn't as much literature and data on these chart types, but definitely feel to really have a native understand themself, you need more than just the Birth chart and need to look to one or all of these.
I haven't interacted with the others.But I resonate with Draco🙏🏿
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GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1625 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted February 12, 2022 11:50 AM
Thank you Aries?Degrees, that's very kind of you to say. (I wrote your name like that, because a little while back, I saw that there might be some question of your exact Asc degree and/or Sign).
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9106 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 12, 2022 01:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2: Thank you Aries?Degrees, that's very kind of you to say. (I wrote your name like that, because a little while back, I saw that there might be some question of your exact Asc degree and/or Sign).
I think it's still Ari🤔.I am waiting on Plu to cross over to Aqua. I think that this transit will be definitive in sorting this out. Once and for all.🙏🏿 IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1625 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted February 13, 2022 09:38 AM
I think I may have mentioned this before, but my intuitive sense is that there is some strong cusping going on between Aries and Taurus, so yes, may still be Aries but likely near the 27* mark but could possibly go to around 3* in the other sign. When there is that much cusping/blending going on, it becomes harder to differentiate one from the other. Usually the Sign that is technically on the Asc ultimately colors through the most, but I've seen cases where it doesn't. For example, I have a friend with like 0 degree Taurus Rising, but her Venus is at like 23* Aries. It is SOOOO hard to tell whether or not Aries or Taurus is ultimately stronger (since she is also a Venusian, with her Venus widely conjunct her Asc, ultimately Venus does dominate, but the Aries side of her is pretty noticeable too). It's almost like when you're looking at one of those very in between color shades like a green blue or blue green, and folks are like, "is it more green or more blue?!" Humans, and the human ego, likes and needs certainty, and the larger consciousness system and our Expanded/Higher selves laugh at us in turn. But yes, all in all, I would lean most to something like 26 to 29* Aries in your case. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 21349 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 14, 2022 10:15 PM
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9106 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted February 15, 2022 12:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2: I think I may have mentioned this before, but my intuitive sense is that there is some strong cusping going on between Aries and Taurus, so yes, may still be Aries but likely near the 27* mark but could possibly go to around 3* in the other sign. When there is that much cusping/blending going on, it becomes harder to differentiate one from the other. Usually the Sign that is technically on the Asc ultimately colors through the most, but I've seen cases where it doesn't. For example, I have a friend with like 0 degree Taurus Rising, but her Venus is at like 23* Aries. It is SOOOO hard to tell whether or not Aries or Taurus is ultimately stronger (since she is also a Venusian, with her Venus widely conjunct her Asc, ultimately Venus does dominate, but the Aries side of her is pretty noticeable too). It's almost like when you're looking at one of those very in between color shades like a green blue or blue green, and folks are like, "is it more green or more blue?!" Humans, and the human ego, likes and needs certainty, and the larger consciousness system and our Expanded/Higher selves laugh at us in turn. But yes, all in all, I would lean most to something like 26 to 29* Aries in your case.
Thanks for this. I did have an astrologer rectify it to 29Deg. But she also mentioned that I was a tricky case because she was so sure it was Tau. Then another very good astrologer rectified it to 20 Degrees Aries- using his methods. And I used that degree point for a long while afterwards because it seemed to fit the progressions more than the previous one. Later however, I discovered a letter Mom wrote a long time ago where the time of my birth was quoted. And the chart drawn from that time has Asc Tau 5deg🤔. The other complication is that Ven/Mars are in mutual reception in my chart. And this is the other difficulty the 1st astrologer had in ascertaining the rectified chart. But she was confident that its likely on the Aries cusp. Watching transits however has been interesting.Aries seems to fit and the events line up. I have decided to relax about being fussy about the degree. So I switched to 'whole sign' so that I can see what is happening exactly. With Ura in Cap in whole sign 10. I changed schools frequently because we moved a lot.I went to 6 different primary schools (that's what we call them in SA)before I started high school. The irony of Uranus in Aqua was that it was the one time where my schooling life stabilized. I finished high school in the same school throughout this transit.🤷🏿♂️ Nep in Cap coincided with the above changes and also overlapped with Ura in Cap when I got into a car accident. The two were actually conj at the time I attribute Nep to "wipeout" and it definitely was. I spent months in hospital after the accident and don't remember my last year in primary school. Or how I made it past Grade 7🙆🏿♂️ Neptune in Cap was also the transit for when I realized a passion for the stage. I would write & perform poems, be in musicals or related stage productions etc. And LOVED it. Pluto in Cap started with and remains marked by career struggles and strife. Always the "starting over" and not feeling like I have accomplished much at all. Painful transit. I am glad it's coming to end in house 10. Ura in Aries in whole sign 1st house coincided with Pluto in 10th when I had a bit of an identity crisis that I am still dealing with today. The truth of my biological father was revealed. And the psychological aftermath of that was tough. Now that Nep will be progressing to Aries in a couple of years, I am a little apprehensive. Will it be good? Will I return to my love of theatre? Will my creative flair start off again? Will I (during that transit) be hit with another identity crisis? Or will those years be spent completely spaced out and mentally detached?🙊 IP: Logged | |