posted January 27, 2022 05:20 PM            

And she did take it the wrong way, and I found later, indirectly, that she thought that I was hitting on her. Nope, I just have very strong Jupiter and a very close Merc Jupiter trine. Don't have a lot of a filter at times. Often I say exactly whats on my mind and heart, especially in relation to friends and groups since Mercury rules my 11th.

posted January 28, 2022 04:36 PM            

Mars in stressful aspect to Neptune indicates that there is a pattern in the person's actions that aren't direct, but are roundabout, evasive, pulled by imagination in a direction other than what is directly relevant. A good phrase for either aspect is wild and potentially dangerous imagination. Don't overemphasize the 'dangerous' part. The point is that one's imagination can lead one astray of best line of action. Therefore, some with this aspect will seduce themselves into things like cheating.

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posted January 28, 2022 05:27 PM            

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I think if it were considered such an aspect, then Mars opposite Neptune would just as much or more so. No again. I've got Mars opposite Neptune and have never had any interest in cheating.

Mars in stressful aspect to Neptune indicates that there is a pattern in the person's actions that aren't direct, but are roundabout, evasive, pulled by imagination in a direction other than what is directly relevant. A good phrase for either aspect is [b]wild and potentially dangerous imagination. Don't overemphasize the 'dangerous' part. The point is that one's imagination can lead one astray of best line of action. Therefore, some with this aspect will seduce themselves into things like cheating.

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posted January 28, 2022 10:09 PM            

Using the following article which lists 10 famous cheaters who were caught and paid a price,
[URL] https://www.nickiswift.com/3795/politicians-caught-cheating/[/URL]
I am going to list the people here whose Mars is in aspect with Neptune:

1) Bill Clinton has Mars CONJUNCT Neptune.

2) John Edwards, a presidential candidate who had to withdraw his candidacy when it was revealed it chested with Rielle Hunter. He has Mars TRINE Neptune & Saturn.

3) Eliot Spitzer who famously cheated on his wife Huma Abedin has Mars SQUARE Neptune.

4) Jim McGreevey was forced to resign as the Governor of New Jersey in 2004 after it was discovered that he had been cheating on his wife with an Israeli man named Golan Cipel. He has Mars SEXTILE Neptune.

5) Anthony Weiner a NY Representative who as forced to resign from Congress in 2011 after reports hit that he'd been engaging in online-only sexual relationships with multiple women around the country. He has Mars TRINE Neptune (wide orb)

6) U.S. Senator from Idaho Larry Craig was arrested at the Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport in 2007 after he allegedly tried to solicit sex from an undercover cop inside a bathroom stall. He has Mars TRINE Neptune (wide orb)

7) Former Governor of South Carolina Mark Sanford disappeared for a full six days while in office, only to return and admit that he had been shacking up with his Argentinian mistress in her home country the whole time. He didn't really pay a price for it, but it was a scandal at the time. He has Mars in Aries quincunx Neptune in Scorpio. So his Mars and Neptune are ruled by Mars.

So roughly, 7 out of 10 of the examples had Mars in aspects to Neptune. I think that's pretty impressive a correlation.

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posted January 28, 2022 10:15 PM            

The beauty of astrology is that no aspect is ABSOLUTE in its power and interpretation. You will always find people whose lives do not reflect a particular aspect's interpretation, because they consciously decide not to use the aspect in a particular way.

You usually find that restraint in people who are more evolved than the average man. We all have choices in how we manifest an aspect. Whether we manifest it in good or bad. We always have a choice.

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posted January 28, 2022 11:04 PM            

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The beauty of astrology is that no aspect is ABSOLUTE in its power and interpretation. You will always find people whose lives do not reflect a particular aspect's interpretation, because they consciously decide not to use the aspect in a particular way.

You usually find that restraint in people who are a lmore evolved than the average man. We all have choices in how we manifest an aspect. Whether we manifest it in good or bad. We always have a choice.

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Yeah this is why I’m afraid to get involved with this person. He says he doesn’t like cheaters and that he doesn’t cheat. I know he’s been lied to by another woman. He fell in love with a married woman who he never met. She lied saying she loved him and he found out she was married.

posted January 29, 2022 10:35 AM            

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@ Kannon and GCE2, are there other aspects made to your Mars/Neptune square?

I am wondering if other aspects from other planets might mitigate the cheating potential.

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Jupiter (from the 1st House) conjuncts Mars (in 2nd) with 5 degrees separation, Sun, chart ruler trines Mars with 3 degree separation (and parallels Neptune), Mercury trines Mars with 4.5* separation.

The Mars Neptune square is the farthest aspect to Mars with 6* separation.

Venus and Pluto sextile Neptune with less than a degree of separation, and Neptune is trine Asc with about 5* separation. Saturn is also widely square Neptune at 6* (and separating).

I'm just too honest, empathic, and self disciplined to cheat. I've always been extremely honest and have had/have a hard time lying, especially about big/important things. The idea of hurting others has long been distasteful/upsetting to self as well. If I ever got into a situation where I was so attracted to another person that I really wanted to be with them that badly, I would break up with the person I am with before engaging in behind back type stuff.

Course, at this point, this is all a moot point because I'm allowed to be with other people if I want to (partner and I have an open option). But I don't actively date or look for romantic partners. Romances and/or sex with others for me are few and far between. In my last human life, I was a sex addict, and being very aware of that life and those issues, I didn't want to continue that pattern, though part of me is tempted to it.

posted January 29, 2022 01:33 PM            

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Yeah this is why I’m afraid to get involved with this person. He says he doesn’t like cheaters and that he doesn’t cheat. I know he’s been lied to by another woman. He fell in love with a married woman who he never met. She lied saying she loved him and he found out she was married.

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posted January 29, 2022 06:12 PM            

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@ Kannon and GCE2, are there other aspects made to your Mars/Neptune square?

I am wondering if other aspects from other planets might mitigate the cheating potential.

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I have Mars opposite Neptune. Take a look for yourself and see what you think. http://kannonmcafee.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/kannon-validated-birth-chart.gif

I'd say it's not about aspects that mitigate cheating because it's not a 'cheating' aspect. Mars being energy and Neptune being imagination, in hard aspect the person's energies are prone to being distracted by idealisms or imaginary concerns or lures that steal energy from their purpose. That could go in any of a number of ways that don't involve sexual affairs of any kind. It gives rise to doubt and a less assertive or less direct way of dealing with some situations, especially competition or possible combat. Neptune takes the edge off Mars's competitiveness while maintaining awareness of varying motives of others.

You don't get to the bottom of the aspect's nature by looking at the charts of cheaters and finding out they've got some kind of Mars-Neptune aspect. And trines, conjunctions, and sextiles are not challenging aspects (squares or oppositions).

Correlation is not causation.

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Yeah this is why I’m afraid to get involved with this person. He says he doesn’t like cheaters and that he doesn’t cheat. I know he’s been lied to by another woman. He fell in love with a married woman who he never met. She lied saying she loved him and he found out she was married.

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The fear is on your end. He has self-worth issues of feeling undeserving of love from a person who is emotionally available. Are you emotionally and truly available? Then you have nothing to fear and you could be part of breaking his cycle. Why would you let fear stop you from that?

No one can truly create love with another person while spending considerable time/energy guarding themselves from getting hurt. Love involves risk. If you know yourself and trust your own integrity, there's no need to fear.

Know your purpose and live with integrity.

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posted January 30, 2022 05:47 AM            

Because Mars is so instinctive. This is not on purpose. So the person may just operate like that and its not deliberate

An example would be them driving on an abandoned detour to avoid traffic.But perhaps also meeting up with challenges there that were unforeseen.

The good side of this aspect is that this individual may instinctively (Mars) understand the complexities associated with Neptune affiliated subjects. They are able to successfully navigate the fog.

An example is a psychiatrist whom gets to the heart(Mars) of a complex mental problem with a patient that parades itself as one thing. But turns put to be something else entirely(Nep).

I would reckon the character "House" from the series of the same name had this aspect. He was very good at navigating diseases parading themselves as one thing only to be revealed as something else. There was a sort of "detective" nature about his work that he liked(Mars is about getting to the crux of the matter).

Cheater? I wouldn't strictly say that. Although i would not dismiss it either. Secrecy does not always mean "dishonesty ". Examine the intent of the individual always(Moon).

I see this aspect as the type that can present the native many opportunities to explore something "incognito" OR do something(Mars) without detection(Nep).

Other people usually don't suspect this individual of that act. A sorta "The Usual suspects" character whom flies under the radar and gets away with stuff.😶

Some may be blessed with knowing how to use so-called "supernatural forces" i.e. healing practices, getting in contact with spirits on a regular basis, or delving into "wizardry/ witchcraft" -as Neptune rules over the unseen/other worldly and Mars is energy that can be dedicated to that.

posted January 30, 2022 01:57 PM            

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The fear is on your end. He has self-worth issues of feeling undeserving of love from a person who is emotionally available. Are you emotionally and truly available? Then you have nothing to fear and you could be part of breaking his cycle. Why would you let fear stop you from that?

No one can truly create love with another person while spending considerable time/energy guarding themselves from getting hurt. Love involves risk. If you know yourself and trust your own integrity, there's no need to fear.

Know your purpose and live with integrity.

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Quite a fascinating chart you have.

The first thing that jumped out to me on a personal level was that your ascendant is exactly conjunct my descendant and vice versa. I knew there was a reason why I liked you... I have this aspect with 2 besties.

Anyway, your chart ruler is conjunct Venus in Taurus and Trine Pluto in Virgo, indicating deep and refined thinking. You also have a grand trine involving your moon in Capp, Saturn & Sun in Taurus, and your ascendant in Virgo. So there is a lot of groundedness in your chart. Empty talks are meaningless to you. You seek solutions. You value meaningful actions that bare results. You are able to carefully choose your words.

But I digress.

Yes I notice your Mars square Neptune, and also the quincunx to same Mars by Jupiter, both with 5 degree orbs.

Looking at your chart, Mars can be seen as the highest planet, posited at the top.

Cheating is usually done in darkness, in hiding. Your Mars is visible. It is not in hiding. If there is cheating to be done, it would not come from you.

Your Mars is also exactly trine your Uranus, so it is the dominant flavor of your Mars. You do things your own way, you don't follow the pack, you carve out your own path so to speak. Cheating would be almost tantamount to being in bondage for you, because it is an admission that one is imprisoned in a relationship that does not fulfill you. I think you would rather break up with someone than cheat on them.

You also give considerable importance to your partner, with your North Node in the same sign as your descendant. So you will put the time and effort required in maintaining a relationship.

posted February 02, 2022 10:14 AM            

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I think she means that she is afraid of potentially hurting him as she can be tempted to cheating herself? If not, then I'm confused as well.

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posted February 02, 2022 04:03 PM            

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Yes, I’m afraid that I might hurt him.

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posted February 02, 2022 06:11 PM            

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You are afraid that you might hurt him by cheating on him? Am I understanding you correctly?

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posted February 02, 2022 06:25 PM            

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Yes, but I also feel like I’m too playful whereas he’s serious. He got upset because I didn’t text him for one day. He said I was ignoring him I guess men with Venus in Capricorn are like this? I feel like he’d be controlling. Almost like I’m a child maybe it’s because he has Saturn in the 10th house or Venus square Pluto. I like that he’s consistent but I just don’t get the part about him being upset because I didn’t text for one day.

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posted February 02, 2022 07:34 PM            

I think he's displaying how he likes to be treated back.

posted February 03, 2022 11:02 AM            

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Mars -Nep- Concealed action or unclear action.
Cheater? I wouldn't strictly say that. Although i would not dismiss it either. Secrecy does not always mean "dishonesty ". Examine the intent of the individual always(Moon).

I see this aspect as the type that can present the native many opportunities to explore something "incognito" OR do something(Mars) without detection(Nep).

Other people usually don't suspect this individual of that act. A sorta "The Usual suspects" character whom flies under the radar and gets away with stuff.😶
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posted February 03, 2022 12:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Okay. You are afraid you might cheat on him, but you are also wondering if he might cheat
on you since he has Mars square Neptune. Girl, you are a trip.

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posted February 04, 2022 10:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Vradec:
Do you reckon someone with this aspect might be prone to any kind of online stalking or detective work when it comes to lovers? Not necessarily the aggressive/dangerous type of stalking; but finding out things about a potential partner online; or searching them up online secretly?

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