posted April 08, 2022 02:51 AM            

This time, I just happen to have an epiphany about my own trans Ura opp Pluto transit

For the longest time, I actually struggled to see what effects (if any) this transit had. This until i realised that its effects were likely "post" its exact contact.

Pluto is momentum (as I keep saying). Picture a speeding train racing through the tracks. This train started somewhere, picking up force as it increased speed. So by the time it goes past you, its UNSTOPPABLE.

Pluto is similar. The momentum started somewhere. And now its a spinning wheel in the subconscious mind that goes on unnoticed/unchecked but driving our motivations/preoccupations and obsessions.

Obsessions can enslave us. This because when something becomes an obsession,we have no conscious control over it. It sponsors behavioural patterns and crystallizes our responses to "I am just wired that way" . This without us actually understanding why.

Pluto could be the compulsion/ instinctual pattern to "act" a certain way that is hard wired to the brain so much so, that it becomes indistinguishable from personality behaviour.

Serial killers often say that they feel at the mercy of their compulsion to kill. And the only way they can be stopped is through their own death.

I think that "shock therapy"(Ura) was a way in which past doctors tried to "manage" the force of Pluto. In that they realized that some patterns of behaviour were beyond conscious control (Plu)and needed external intervention through interruption (Ura).

But they were flawed in their premise that the damage to the psyche as a result of the therapy was miniscule. Thank God this practice was abolished. It was barbaric.

Obsessions can control us and can have power over us much like an addiction( which could explain how in esoteric astrology Pluto is actually the ruler of Pisces- affiliated with addictions)

So Ura is the "Great interruptor" & when in aspect with Plu("Geat momentum"). We have the great interruptor(Ura) which interacts with great momentum (Plu)and what you find here is a sudden/shocking and even jarring redirection of energy.

Pluto energy hasn't "stopped" per se. Just like how switching "off" the light in the bedroom doesn't suddenly "stop" electricity. But it does interrupt the flow of the circuit. As Pluto(much like the current) needs the circuit board to be closed in a sort of "loop" in order for the momentum to pick up and energy to flow again.

But during this "interruption", Uranus has liberated Pluto(albeit briefly) from its preoccupations.Maybe Uranus asks Pluto; "Hey buddy. Do you really still want to continue going around in the same circle?"

So during this period of the interruption, we have an opportunity to lay off old compulsions and change towards constructive ones(should we consciously choose to do the focus and work). Because the Pluto energy NEEDS to go somewhere eventually.

Its interesting to note that in America, slavery was abolished on the 18th December 1865. During the period, Transiting Uranus was contra-parallel natal Pluto (USA chart of 1776 July 4)

Again I say that Ura is the "liberator". And in this instance, it sought to liberate both physically & psychologically those who were kept in bondage.

Some may argue the exactness of the day when slavery was actually abolished. Others may even go as far as to say that it stopped from being "overt" to "covert" because following that ,the suffering for black people did not stop.

There was the advent of the "Jim Crow" laws in 1877 that still reverberate in their trauma-filled impact till today 2022.

So in the above instance, it is also true that perhaps the momentum of entitlement to enslave one person based solely on the colour of their skin, didn't suddenly stop happening because humanity had a collective "shift".

For others, the energy took on a more "hidden" path that could not be openly regulated or sanctioned against.It showed up in more sadistic ways. That's Pluto too unfortunately. Pluto can be all about psychological sadism too.🤷🏿‍♂️

So look into your chart and perhaps do a great deal of introspection whilst doing that to really examine what ur obsessions or preoccupations have been for many years. This especially the Pluto Sco generation.

Then watch what happens when Uranus opposes your natal Pluto(separating). It is truly a thing to behold🙌🏿

Perhaps you quit smoking? Stop obsessing over your looks? Get over someone you've long obsessed over? Decide to leave a job/career that wasn't working out the way you thought? Forgive a family member for past traumas endured? Severe ties with toxic people in your life? Lose tons of weight that has long been an issue in your life?

Uranus is the liberator. But also remember that the Pluto energy NEEDS a new preoccupation - otherwise it can easily turn destructive.

posted April 08, 2022 07:30 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
I agree that Uranus is a liberator. In my own experience the current transit has allowed me to step outside my usual train of thoughts and ask myself some provoking questions. I became receptive to making bold decisions (a little bit of Jupiter in the mix) and taking responsibility for my own future (Saturn joined the party as well).

I’m a bit older and have my natal Pluto in Libra, but is is inconjunct and parallel my H8 Taurus Venus. Transit Uranus conjunct my Venus definitely had a Plutonian flavor for me. There has been a big transformation in my style and the way I present myself to the outside world.

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posted April 08, 2022 03:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Did this period of Ven-Plu also result in a significant relationship formed? A change in income or a whole new perspective in self(typically after a dark period where that sense of self worth went through some pretty harsh interrogations)?

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No significant relationships or change of income but definitely a change in my perception of self and self value. My Venus is also my chart ruler so probably has a strong connection to my sense of self. My natal Taurus Venus in H8 is inconjunct and parallel my natal Libra Pluto (conjunct ASC) so Venus-Pluto is part of my personality. But it did get triggered by the Uranus transit. My natal Uranus in H2 is opposite my natal Venus and I feel like it’s linked to my self value as well. Being independent and building my own life has always been very important to me. The Uranus transit through Taurus feels very karmic to me, like these insights were supposed to come at me at this point in my life.

posted April 09, 2022 12:07 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
No significant relationships or change of income but definitely a change in my perception of self and self value. My Venus is also my chart ruler so probably has a strong connection to my sense of self. My natal Taurus Venus in H8 is inconjunct and parallel my natal Libra Pluto (conjunct ASC) so Venus-Pluto is part of my personality. But it did get triggered by the Uranus transit.

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I think that is at the core of my question. What triggered this change in perception of self and self value?

For instance, the things that I identify as clear obsessions in my life are(and in no particular order)

1)Career path.

The source of much confusion and demoralization thus far in my life. I have changed jobs so many times because of feeling "unfulfilled". Is it really the job? Or is it me?

The obsession here has been finding the "true" path to contentment. What do i really ,really want? What would feel fulfilling? And not necessarily from a "life purpose" point of view. But what would give me a sense of "my glass in always half full" ?

It is said that when you are internally happy, it matters little what you "do" because you are "fulfilled " either way. You are acutely aware of how that "work"(in whatever form it comes) feeds back into that sense of inner happiness that you already have.

I haven't tapped into this. Its the reason i study astrology and want to find out so much about myself. And that is because i am looking for something to "click". Something perhaps long overlooked to shine through the rubble as the proverbial "arkenstone". The most valuable and ultimate reason that I travelled so deeply into myself.

2)The troubled relationship with my Father.

Not necessarily something i have any control over. But its been the root of much dissatisfaction. So each time i would go home,I would constantly be reminded of it.

Here i hope to let go "once and for all" the need to feel loved by someone who doesn't even know what that is. The acceptance of who that person is "as is" - without added delusions that he will be what I want.

An epiphany came to me in varsity when i first read a book which said "release your parents from the burdens of unfulfilled expectations". Lord knows that with Chiron Tau inconjunct Sun, that has been TOUGH.

The only person i keep hurting , is myself. And it is because of these continuous loops of thoughts that "things will change".

These are unfulfilled dreams of a father that will never be realized.An irreversible acceptance must come.My hope is to be released from continued imaginings once and for all.🙏🏿

3)The longing for a transcendental sexual experience.The "orgasm" of all orgasms.The ultimate "high" as a feeling because of consummate closeness with someone(and by extension "God").

This one is actually based off of the need for deep intimacy.I think Pluto in Sco specifically (especially in houses 7/8/9 looks for that "all consuming love").

They look to be engulfed by it and "transported" body and mind into another world. And so human connections become feeble and lacklustre when viewed in comparison. There is less willingness to be in this world. But a need to "elevate" beyond it.

So far, I realized that i was released from an expectation i had that a relationship with someone would fulfill number 3.

It came very suddenly and quickly.What i loved about it was how absolutely painless it was.

I am no longer preoccupied with this individual. Obsessed with reading "underlying" messages from them -looking for "hidden" reasons to affirm an imagined connection with them.

My heart is no longer tied in a knot when they call or respond to a message. I got obsessed with an idea i had of them and that idea died this year. And i am so grateful it did.

For the 1st time,I saw them "as is". The spell was lifted. And i have been free of that obsession since.

The above occurred when trans Ura was opp natal Pluto(separating).

posted April 09, 2022 01:08 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Uranus opposite Pluto was when my family was basically demolished. I was also in an accident with my dad, when mars was conjunct it (and his mars in Aries), as well as my Jupiter.

I had more to say, but I'm soo tired.

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posted April 09, 2022 02:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I think that is at the core of my question. What triggered this change in perception of self and self value?

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There was an event that made it obvious to me that my partner no longer loved me. That there was an unbridgeable gap between what I needed my relationship to be and what it actually was. My ex would drive the kids to school in the morning. Without giving any signals that he was in a big hurry, he went to the car even though our youngest son didn’t even have his shoes on. It took me less than 5 minutes to help my son to get his shoes on but apparently my ex was so agitated that he had already left without saying a word. If he had mentioned that he was under a lot of stress than I would have understood. I would have offered to bring the kids myself. But he said nothing. I had to bring my confused kids myself and my heart broke because they thought it was their fault and I had to make excuses for their father so they wouldn’t think that. It was so sad. I tried to call my ex several times. At that point a good explanation would have been enough for me to smooth it over. But he refused to pick up the phone. At the end of the day there was still no contact and I picked up my still confused kids on my own.

When he came home he was angry and stomped his feet. I lost it. I was so ****** at him for his behavior and how it impacted our children. I poured my rage out on him. He had crossed a line. He said he would pack his stuff and leave. I couldn’t believe his reaction. In stead of owning up to his behavior he would just run away. I thought it was so weak and irresponsible, it made me even more angry. Our oldest son panicked and in tears he fled to his room. My ex instantly regretted his behavior. He went to comfort his son and said he was sorry. But my heart was broken. It took me a couple of months to realize the impact of what happened but I knew something was very wrong in our relationship. I wanted us to go to therapy, he refused. He refused my last olive branch so I prepared myself for the inevitable, I went into therapy alone to get my story straight. I did it for myself but also because I wanted to be responsible towards the children.

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My heart is no longer tied in a knot when they call or respond to a message. I got obsessed with an idea i had of them and that idea died this year. And i am so grateful it did.

For the 1st time,I saw them "as is". The spell was lifted. And i have been free of that obsession since.

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posted April 09, 2022 03:28 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
This exactly is what happened to me. I had been obsessed with trying to create a perfect family and divorce didn’t fit that picture. But we weren’t good for each other anymore. I saw the relationship for what it was and knew that I would rather be divorced than desperately hang on to the decaying corpse our marriage now was. I realized that it had eroded my self worth in the worst way. My relationship had me feeling I was a bad mother, wife and employee. I felt so misunderstood and undervalued. I had to make this decision to save my mental health. As the daughter of a chronically depressed and alcoholic mother, I knew I had to make a drastic decision to avoid my kids experiencing something similar. I let go of that perfect image of family in my head and accepted my defeat but regained my power.

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BRAVO!!🙌🏿👏🏿👏🏿

Often Pluto-Venus aspects suggest the native has painful lessons to learn in terms of Venus issues i.e. self-worth, self-esteem, ability to love and receive love, income etc.

Pluto can have us fixated on an idea. This to a point where the idea is the reason we make all other decisions. This whether or not that reason is flawed🤷🏿‍♂️