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Topic: How to fix husband Saturn, what his lessons?
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married11years Knowflake Posts: 619 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 11, 2022 05:57 PM
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hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 1305 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted April 11, 2022 08:06 PM
The more you worry, the more you attract it happens to you.Those planets/aspects you know, please make it as an awareness, not a total justification. There will always be two side of the coin, the good and the bad, the negative and the positive. We own the coin which means we embody the good and the bad, but it is our freewill to decide which side of the coin we want to act on it, and yes people can change from bad to good or from good to bad, but there will always a trigger for that changes. I have been experiencing the anxiety of my Gemini sun husband too, we don't have smooth relationship around it until I try to find the root on why he feels anxious. First thing I know, he talks too much about me as his wife and our marriage life to other people who do not really know exactly what's going on, and it makes them start commenting this and that, and he takes it all to the heart especially the negative sounds like and their facial expressions when talking about me or our marriage (He is a sensitive Gemini with water mars and Neptune hard aspecting personal planet). He doesn't realize that his anxiety increased after that. He starts projecting it to me that I need to be fixed. After some investigation I did, I try to find a right time and a right moment to make him realize that he has to choose what's not better to talk what's better to talk to other people especially about his family matters if he does not want getting a response that increase his anxiety. Don't make our marriage feels miserable when in fact there's some involvement of other people or bad communication between two of us. What do you want? Divorce? Or what? He doesn't answer it though but I know he doesn't want a divorce. Second, he has some trust issues especially to my quiet nature in the past, the mysterious side, and how active I am. Also some insecurity as a form of jealousy as well as admiration. I have found communication builds more trust with Gemini because their curious nature makes an active mind, and they want to know more of you, what you do, your interesting story, so they can feel like they know you. To reduce his insecurity, I try to ask his opinion about things that I want to do and making it clear that I am not trying to compete with him. Too much analyzing and looking into astrology is not healthy too especially if you know you have some anxiety problem.
I also find that you seem still compare your husband with the other man. Why do you compare your husband to the other man? There's a feeling of unsatisfaction to your husband? What is it? I wonder that you also feel bored in your marriage at this time? IP: Logged |
married11years Knowflake Posts: 619 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 11, 2022 08:32 PM
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married11years Knowflake Posts: 619 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 11, 2022 09:27 PM
I want to post this here, as if you believe in astrology then this is a concerning aspect.My husband birth chart have, I was told very bad aspect, abuser and can be violent too. Saturn conjunct Mars-Pluto midpoint Scorpio Saturn, Scorpio Mars, Scorpio Pluto. And I find this about the concering Mars-Pluto midpoint of his. begin quote: Ebertin says the Mars/Pluto midpoint is (dramatically): General principle: power (force, brutality) Psychological correspondence: [+] the ability to demonstrate extraordinary force and vigor, great self-confidence, working without break, great ambition [-] the attainment of one's objectives by means of ruthlessness to others, brutality, cruelty Saturn = Mars/Pluto: A person unafraid of hard work, leaving no stone unturned in the pursuit of a particular task, the desire to overcome difficulties and obstacles forcibly. Niemann & Cooper: Mars/Pluto Well-adjusted behavioural manifestations — Direct, straight-forward, ambitious, diligent, hardworking. Sexual, persistent, confident, organized. Leadership, athletic, passionate, will power. Attacks crises with determination, moral. Possible personality problems — The ends justify the means, Unduly aggressive, physical, foolhardy, cruel, coercive. Vindictive, destructive, sexual extremes (lust, celibacy). Cunning, scheming, sly, restricting one's or another's freedom, boisterous, dictatorial, deceitful. end quote. scary right? Will show him this, but I know he won't believe in astrology. When I tried to convince him into astrology, was he said: 'his fate is in his own hand, he control his life, his fate and even when and how he going to he die', Lol. And he also an Atheist. The thing is my husband Pluto it in his 4th house! The house of home. And his Mars has the most % percentage dominant in his chart, follow by his Pluto. And Pluto is the Sole depositor in his chart. It scary. And his Saturn degree, and his Mars-Pluto midpoint degree are exact too, so that make it 0 degree. 4th house is his home life house, and I'm his wife, I will be affect by this IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted April 11, 2022 10:12 PM
@married11years Yes, I'm reading the right chart. You seem to be aware mainly of signs. In my opinion aspects and house placements will overpower signs. For example: A person with an aspectless Moon in Pisces will indeed have Piscean traits, sensing others' emotions, being understanding and supportive emotionally, giving selfless love, being passive, emotionally open etc. Another person with the same Moon (in Pisces) in hard aspect to Mars will be aggressive, self-centered, impatient, getting angry easily, child-like, unable to control emotions etc. A third person with Moon in Pisces in conjunction to Mars AND Saturn this time, will be able to control emotions and have difficulty showing them, will be down to earth, mature, serious and practical when it comes to Moon matters. These three cases give completely different results even though it's about the same Moon sign. That's what I mean when I say that aspects and house placements are most important than signs unless the planet is unaspected of course. In your case your Gemini Sun and Venus are in very tight opposition to Neptune. Your Moon is in Pisces which is ruled by Neptune. Your 7th H of important partnerships and relationships, including marriage of course, is in Pisces, your Moon is conjuncting your DSC emphasizing it even more. Neptune is related to all your love houses and planets. Neptune rules your Moon, your 7th and 8th H, it conjuncts your 5th H cusp from your 4th H, it's aspecting your Sun, Moon and Venus. You avoiding conflict, being submissive, letting him have his way are Neptunian traits btw. Your Mercury is in opposition to Neptune but it's quite loose, its effect will be weak. On top of that, your Sun, Moon and Venus receive tight trines from Pluto. All in all your chart is heavy in water too since every single one of your personal planets and 4 of your houses (2 being angular and 3 being love houses) is related to the water element in one way or another. You mentioned your Moon squaring Uranus which is so loose I wouldn't count it at all. You have though Uranus in 4th H which gives similar result since the natural ruler of the 4th H is the Moon. I can't give my opinion to your husband's chart because I can't read it. You mention some placements you consider important but you might leave truly important ones out of the picture. Virgo, 6th H placements tend to enjoy being of practical service. Pisces enjoy it too but it won't be practical unless other things support it in the chart. Possessivenes and jealousy are mainly Pluto's work. So Pluto aspects, Pluto in 5th or 7th H, Scorpio Moon/Venus/Mars. Cancer, Taurus, 2nd and 8th H placements are pretty possessive too.
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married11years Knowflake Posts: 619 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 11, 2022 10:23 PM
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Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted April 11, 2022 10:26 PM
You should stop worrying about that midpoint aspect. Mars in Scorpio is strong Pluto in Scorpio is strong Saturn conjuncting that midpoint shows control over that aspect. You are married to him for more than a decade has he ever been physically violent to you? You are stuck in one aspect instead of seeing the whole picture. You want someone to dominate tou because you're nature is too submissive and mutable. You have to see what's happening in reality and then try to understand it and explain it through astrology until you get a good understanding of how astrology works. I mean it's not easy but the way you approach it is not healthy.
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married11years Knowflake Posts: 619 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 11, 2022 10:50 PM
THANK YOU so much!!! Your reading super accurate! wow. Maybe it me Neptunian, 7th and 8th house sit on Pisces, that why I'm attracted to my husband (Pisces Sun), despite I always wanted a Scorpio.So what you advice me to do, get my brain out of my Neptunian, and concentrate on learn to love my husband more? As obviously I don't appreciate him enough. I'm with him, but I want a Scorpio Sun lol. He obvious couldn't give me that, I can't change his Sun sign. btw, what is a Pluto (in Scorpio) as a Sole depositor means? I know Sole means the only planet, but I not know what depositor mean in astrology and how it affect the rest of his planets. How you see someone like my husband, too HEAVY on family? 2nd decan Pisces Sun rule by the Cancer moon. Then his Cancer Rising also rule by the moon. Then pointed back to his 4th house (which is family house rule by Cancer moon). And Scorpio Pluto in his 4th house. The house of home And his Mars dominant the chart, follow by his Pluto. And Pluto is the Sole depositor in his chart. I think all this pointed to family, Pluto in 4th is a heavy family home. And all those moon thing of his. If my 7th house and 8th house sit o Pisces, and I married a Pisces, am I heading toward the right direction? lol. Maybe we have those karma relationship you know, we own each others in our last life and this life we repay. I thought i'm suppose to married what my Mars sign is, isn't that what astrology said about women Mars. sign? who they attracted to. Thank you, I go calm down my anxious, head fly all over the place Gemini Sun. I do wish I can change my Sun sign though, it NOT helping me with my anxiety. And No, NEVER once he physically violent to me. So yes, you right, I over worry. IP: Logged |
married11years Knowflake Posts: 619 From: Registered: Apr 2022
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posted April 12, 2022 01:08 AM
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