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Topic: What am I missing about this chart?
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StoneMoon Knowflake Posts: 887 From: Registered: Apr 2018
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posted April 14, 2022 05:01 PM
This chart belongs to a young woman who is fairly incapacitated in life. She is healthy, fit, able... but so afraid and anxiety ridden she is hiding from life.From looking at her chart she should be a very strong capable individual. Sun square Moon, Sun conjunct Pluto, Moon square Pluto, Sag planets, ... All planets are direct. Saturn is not squaring her too harshly, and Neptune only squares her natal nodes. She left college due to anxiety and has spent the last several years living at home afraid to do much of anything. She spends her days watching videos on social media. She suffers from panic attacks, gut issues... I don't know her birth time. Her moon does not fluctuate much however and it is definitely Pisces. I considered her being a 12th house Sun, but the rest of the chart didn't quite fit with my intuition. A 6th house moon plus Virgo rising would certainly agree with her anxiety... I do notice her Pluto is at 0 degrees and Mars at 29... anoretic degrees. Could it be she is so uncomfortable with her Pluto that her Pisces Moon is taking over? Her Saturn return is coming soon. I would like to find a way to help her through this... she has a lot of life to be had! IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 999 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted April 14, 2022 05:56 PM
There's a lot in this chart that screams anxiety. All of the squares to personal planets, especially from Pluto and Saturn. Squares have to be worked out, they are very hard aspects to deal with and they don't ease up later. She's going to have to compromise, slowly. Sun conjunct Pluto looks like a strong connection and sometimes it is, but I think a lot of people get wrapped up in the "power" aspect of Pluto and fail to see how it came into power to begin with. A whole lot of paranoia, unsettling thoughts, crippling anxiety. These issues are thrust onto whatever Pluto touches until it kills the part of you that you need to die before you can rise. In this case, it's her very core energy, her sun.I would look at her progressions and solar arc and compare to her natal to see small shifts in energy. If she knows astrology it can be a great tool for her to better understand herself and begin to take baby steps working on her issues. Good luck 🤞 IP: Logged |
StoneMoon Knowflake Posts: 887 From: Registered: Apr 2018
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posted April 14, 2022 06:12 PM
Thank you. I was looking too at her Mercury square Moon. This makes it challenging for her to voice her feelings, and her feelings are already deep and possibly a lot for her... so this engulfs her more. Do you think the Neptune/Uranus square to natal nodes would also paralyze her from taking steps in life? IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss Knowflake Posts: 999 From: Virginia, US Registered: Jan 2019
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posted April 14, 2022 06:32 PM
Yes and Neptune square nodes is seen in addicts as well so she'd be good to stay far away from drugs. Saturn also squares her mercury so that adds a LOT to her mind having a tendency to turn on her. IP: Logged |
StoneMoon Knowflake Posts: 887 From: Registered: Apr 2018
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posted April 14, 2022 08:16 PM
Drugs- interesting. She is on prescription drugs. They live a very natural life, high quality foods, no alcohol, no recreational drugs... but I can see her Rx as a refuge and escape.Thank you again for your insight. It's interesting to look at her mother's chart as compared to hers... a lot of overlay. Her mom is a good support, a wonderful woman, but its a codependent relationship that they both get stuck in. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 456 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted April 15, 2022 12:54 AM
I noticed the Neptune conjunct Uranus square the nodes as well. Neptune conjunct Uranus is known for high imagination. Could she be an early Aquarius Rising with Neptune and Uranus in her 12th house? That would probably also mean she was born at a later time and her Moon will be closer to Saturn. My mother is a depressed alcoholic that has suffered from a lot of anxiety. She has her Libra Moon conjunct Saturn and Neptune. I think that Saturn and Neptune in connection to Moon can indicate issues with anxiety. Her Pisces Moon is ruled by Neptune (conjunct Uranus, square the nodes and possibly in H12 or another karmic house). Given her anxiety it would make sense if there would be a connection from Saturn to her Moon as well. Her Moon wouldn’t be in H6 but maybe it will rule H6. IP: Logged |
vansio Knowflake Posts: 2226 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted April 15, 2022 03:51 AM
When did she drop out of college? She’s been going through what’s known as “Sade Sati”, which began for her on January 2020. A seven-year period when transiting Saturn moves through the sign before, on, and after natal Moon.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9265 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 15, 2022 05:00 AM
Social anxiety imo, has Saturn written all over it.Saturn can be the constant voice in ones head that they are just not "good" enough.The feeling of discomfort around people that you'll do something "embarrassing" and never live that down. Or the feeling of being laughed at or ridiculed by others over the slightest mistakes etc. Venus rules the 2nd house is self esteem. It's in Cap(Saturn ruled) and in mutual reception with Saturn in Pisces I.e Venus is exalted in Pis. Sat is at its domicile when in Cap. Chiron is in Lib(Ven ruled) and it squares its own ruler(Ven) in Cap. It also forms a square with Mars in Sag (defensive). Add to that, Saturn is in the 7th house opp Asc in Virgo. Saturn is also parallel Moon. She feels "rejected " by others even before she has even tried. 🤷🏿♂️ IP: Logged |
StoneMoon Knowflake Posts: 887 From: Registered: Apr 2018
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posted April 16, 2022 05:40 PM
I believe she dropped out a couple of years ago. And she is also heading for her Saturn return soon. @Aries yes Saturn is anxiety. Depending on her birth time maybe her Moon is closer to it. Thank you for the explanation of looking at her rulers and Venus in Cap, etc... I appreciate all the insight- sometimes I get trapped looking at charts only seeing them in specific ways. I really appreciate everyone's perspective here. IP: Logged |
StoneMoon Knowflake Posts: 887 From: Registered: Apr 2018
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posted April 16, 2022 05:58 PM
her progressed chart (ignore asc as TOB unknown) her solar arc (Ignore ASC as TOB unknown) IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 156433 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 19, 2022 04:37 PM
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MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 6572 From: ♏ Rising Registered: Nov 2016
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posted April 19, 2022 05:28 PM
I agree with "there's a lot ". I'm seeing 5hat Pisces Saturn in 7th very intelligent too. With others especially.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9265 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 20, 2022 11:10 PM
I am looking at that progressed Moon conjunct transiting Saturn. She feels lack of connection from others or a sense of not being able to freely express her innermost feelings right now.Saturn/Moon conj could often suggest a period of isolation.When in Aqua,it could be social isolation from friends or social media( if she is into that). Or the inability to access those channels of emotional support right now.🙏🏿 IP: Logged |