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kani
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posted April 16, 2022 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm watching the documentary on Netflix and I'm wondering if anyone knows the real birthday of Shimon Hayut, the tinder swindler. I don't know whether sept 27th, 1990 is the real date of birth. He used several names and several birthdates but maybe someone has the real one?
I wonder what aspects in his chart show that he has the right personality of a con man...

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posted April 17, 2022 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra somewhere makes sense. Sun, Moon or Ven/Mars there imo.

Looking at the proposed chart, we have moon in business-like Cap. Venus in clinical Vir and Mars in Gemini (multi-faceted).

I think this one iz likely. I feel cold just looking at it.

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posted April 17, 2022 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just watched this on Netflix. He's a stone cold mother****** BUT, what human in its right state of mind trusts ANYONE after 30 days?? (or less) My Sun and Moon sq Pluto is running for the hills...Not taking his side by any stretch of the imagination but still.

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posted April 17, 2022 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's one of those cases of people wanting to believe. Although my mum got caught up with someone like him (much smaller scale, but he was really successful with women - and taking their money). She fell for him easily, and she was extremely smart otherwise. I didn't like him, as soon as I met him. They were engaged quickly, shared a bank account, alternating love-bombing with disappearances, and his taking her money out of the account, I don't think he made his own money, it was a rare thing if he did. He said he was a Virgo, but he had two passports.

In the documentary, I loved the woman who paid off some of her debt, by selling his clothes, and ******* him off.

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posted April 17, 2022 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Libra somewhere makes sense. Sun, Moon or Ven/Mars there imo.

Looking at the proposed chart, we have moon in business-like Cap. Venus in clinical Vir and Mars in Gemini (multi-faceted).

I think this one iz likely. I feel cold just looking at it.


His love for brands and that lavish lifestyle coupled with him being charming enough to lull women in very quickly (he is not bad looking either) made me think that Libra could be fitting.
He also has moon conjunct Neptune, so maybe he does believe this whole made up persona to an extent?
Do you think his Jupiter on his South Node plays a role? Could he have been someone very affluent in a past life and his soul craves it?

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posted April 17, 2022 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by charlie:
Just watched this on Netflix. He's a stone cold mother****** BUT, what human in its right state of mind trusts ANYONE after 30 days?? (or less) My Sun and Moon sq Pluto is running for the hills...Not taking his side by any stretch of the imagination but still.

I know!! I have moon square Pluto exact and I'm sooo slow to open up. You know how they say something like this could happen to everyone? No, it couldn't happen to me. I do not open up that quickly and I trust even less. Also, I do not give out any money just like that.

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posted April 17, 2022 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:

In the documentary, I loved the woman who paid off some of her debt, by selling his clothes, and ******* him off.


Yes, me too! What a bad a s s.

And him saying he was a Virgo might be a cover. People tend to trust Virgos (I have seen job ads where the requirement was born during Virgo sun) so that could have been a lie to come across trustworthy?

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posted April 17, 2022 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
Yes, me too! What a bad a s s.

And him saying he was a Virgo might be a cover. People tend to trust Virgos (I have seen job ads where the requirement was born during Virgo sun) so that could have been a lie to come across trustworthy?


I can see him being a Virgo. Virgo is not as "virign" as they are described sometimes, quite the opposite actually. They can have kinky minds and the word kinky can be used whichever way One likes to think about the word..

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posted April 17, 2022 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
His love for brands and that lavish lifestyle coupled with him being charming enough to lull women in very quickly (he is not bad looking either) made me think that Libra could be fitting.
He also has moon conjunct Neptune, so maybe he does believe this whole made up persona to an extent?
Do you think his Jupiter on his South Node plays a role? Could he have been someone very affluent in a past life and his soul craves it?

Both Ura and Neptune are conj Moon. He doesn't want to attach nor accept the responsibility of the emotional attachment. Ura-moon aspects tend to be frequent in polygamous people.

I know all about Neptune delusions and illusions. It can create a mental fixation or sometimes illness of one whom is not comfortable in this world and wants to create an alternative world where they can escape to.

This is their security blanket.To put their head in the sand and not deal with the situation at hand. Dream it away!

If in Cap, he probably wanted the luxurious life. But didn't have the necessary wherewithal to buckle down and work for it.

It would be better to just imagine living it and "walk" into it (just like the movie "Talented Mr Ripley" whom chillingly said that he'd rather be a fake somebody. Then a real nobody).

Mars in Gem can make one multi talented. But there is frustration here in that there isn't enough steam to focus on one thing or patient enough to work on it so that it is a success

It can be much easier(at worst) to trick people and get the maximum outcome for minimum work. This especially when Mercury is involved. Coz Mercury can be the trickster. And in his chart, there is a square between Mars and Mercury Virgo (domicile). So he is very smart. And probably thinks he is smarter than many people.

Jup in Leo is proud.It is ruled by Sun in Lib(detriment).So there is false pride here. A lot of it. And it's subsequent conj to the South Node would explain his big(Jup) appetite for attention that he got from women.

Leo can be very vain. And when Lib is mixed in, you can find someone whose self esteem (Venus ruled the Sun and falls in Virgo) is dependent on preying on vulnerable people. Or getting them to "serve" him with manipulative tactics.

Mercury is in its domicile in Virgo...true. But one must be mindful of Mercury, it goes where the Sun leads. And in this instance, the Sun is at its fall. So it will not be as ethical.

Jup conj South Node made him arrogant and pompous. It inflated his fragile ego and made him careless gambler who got caught because of his huge appetite for the good life (through using others)

Jupiter tends to increase confidence to "risk it all" and take chances

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