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SimplyLuna
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posted April 25, 2022 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been thinking hard lately what's missing in most of my relationships and why it tends to feel emotionally unfilled. Like we don't emotionally connect enough.

Then it hit me, I want to be someone's best friend. Someone that see's me as their friend they want to be with. Sharing good/bad news with, someone who they can trust or open up with like their secrets because I want to do these things with them... The first person they think of when they want to do something together or make plans together (trips, activities, big life decisions). Have me in mind or want to spend time with together basically... it's hard because I live in a society that values individuality. I've practice that, I love having me time, do things I love, have my own values/opinions set from others but I feel it isn't enough. Because any more focus on that, my love or interest fades away. And I feel love isn't reachable to it's potential.

I felt this with someone before, the sense of emotional fulfillment and security, we had a sex-less relationship but I felt wanted/loved. Satisfied in the relationship. Ofc things didn't work out. So why I don't need the sex? It's more of a bonus.

Would you think Aquarius energy has something to do with this? Or even Piscean energy?

LOL I have regrets posting this and it's already up, esp the title. I'm dying in embarrassment but I promise myself to not care too much. Please share what you think. Maybe I may be mistaken.

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posted April 25, 2022 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MonteCristo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Venus is in 11th house, which is the least romantic house, I’d say. It’s focused more on friendship, on the greater good, the larger picture, so your Venus there expends energy towards those things. I was at first shocked you said you don’t need sex since you have Pluto and moon in your 5th, but perhaps those planets just bring out the creative side of you. Are you a creative person? Do you like kids?

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posted April 25, 2022 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have always thought of sex as an extension of intimacy.It can feel empty without that initial sense of being close with one another (platonically).

Current society is so hyper-sexualized of late. There is little room for platonic engagement in relationships (agape-so to speak) before there is emphasis on "Wham!Bam! Thank you mam/sir!".

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posted April 25, 2022 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MonteCristo, I have a lot of hobbies and they're the solitude kind. I don't really like to share my hobbies openly in person (Pluto being secretive) because it's special to me, only those I can trust gets to hear it. And I do love kids. I wanted 4 but my time is almost up. And I am surrounded by kids so I am bless in that way.

This might get confusing because I get sexually attracted when there's a special emotional closeness. Usually when our EQ levels are similar. I know someone who displayed this well and I can't help but to be sexually attracted to him. He's also romantic as well. Candle lit meals, moon/sun watching, dancing in the dark, etc. I felt like I was his best friend at some point (we were spending a lot of times together) and it got down to sharing our past and revealing a part of ourselves we don't share to others. This is sexy to me. And that's enough for me. If sex happens great. If it doesn't that's great too. As long I feel we have this momentum of closeness/togetherness and connection I am fulfilled. But there's one last thing I failed to mentioned, recently I realized I also need someone to handle some intensity because I have that side. I felt I had to hide it with most people.

One time I told a past partner I don't need sex to be with him, and that hurt his ego. What I truly want was a deep connection between us. I also want the same with friends too. But I am learning it's okay not to have them as long we share similar values and interest.

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posted April 25, 2022 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries23Degrees, yeah it seem so to me too. Online dating was a nightmare! I can crack dirty jokes but sex isn't the priority.

I enjoy when it start out slow and some distance; getting to know one another and see how far the connection goes.

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posted April 25, 2022 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LilyIris07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally resonate with this, I want to be someone’s best friend. In the beginning it’s that friendship and like doing cool stuff together or talking about cool stuff together platonically that’s gets me excited - just knowing I’m on a similar wavelength with someone. Then if it moves into romance that’s cool, and yes sex. Cause I enjoy that too - but I definitely have more of a craving for friendship - and I’ve always felt it was a good foundation for a relationship, it’s like a solid ground you know? Especially when the romance “dies down” - you still have a beautiful “platonic” friendship underneath all of that.

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posted April 25, 2022 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
Aries23Degrees, yeah it seem so to me too. Online dating was a nightmare! I can crack dirty jokes but sex isn't the priority.

I enjoy when it start out slow and some distance; getting to know one another and see how far the connection goes.


I didn't finish what I wrote there.Sorry

I often find when Air is mixed in with intimacy planets(Moon/Ven & Mars) there is a preference for more platonic love.

Mars in your case is conjunct Nep/Ura. And that can certainly add a high level of detachment towards sex.

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posted April 26, 2022 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bet you're on birth control and SSRIs. Those things kill a woman's sex drive. Men want women to be their lovers generally.

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posted April 26, 2022 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But in terms of nice synastry, moon conjunct moon is great. It feels very comfortable and warm.

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posted April 29, 2022 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LilyIris07:
Yah I feel that too with an addition of strong emotional closeness.
That's typically how I respond in courtship, distance like friendly interaction, anyone coming too strong I kind of get scared away. Until a spark happens. Then all the daydreaming comes flooding in.

Aries23Degrees:
Haha nooo you're good Aries23 <3
Do you think my Mars/Neptune/Uranus has a strong influence? I don't really hear much about this conjunction in my personal astrology readings. Not sure if it's significant, but I feel the influence. I would love a 2nd opinion~
I kind of find it very romantic when the emotional chemistry and connection between two is so strong that sex isn't part of the reason why two people wants to be together. Making it more romantic and perhaps even intense resulting in sexually attraction. I'm not sure where this influence in my chart is coming from exactly. I was thinking it's my 5th (moon, Pluto and libra) with Neptune on DSC playing this role.

aquaguy91:
What if I tell you I don't take SSRI or BC? 😝 I had thought of giving up on romantic relationship for a deep connection even if were friends but we have to be each other's best friend. Like soulmates. I haven't come across someone moon on my moon. What's that like?

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posted April 29, 2022 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get you. People are after instant gratification now more than savoring the journey.

I think air sign planets like the slow build. The sexual tension that is ignited just on the "anticipation" of what will be.

If you watch Pride & Prejudice(and most of other Jane Austen novels) there is always some very slow burn towards a huge romantic end.🙌🏿.

Btw, Jane Austen had Nep conj Asc in Vir. You have Nep conj Dsc in Cap. Me thinks there is something there because she really knew how to create enough foreplay between her characters that we wanted to see the end explosion preceded by those subtleties.

Jane & Darcy couldn't get together too early. It would have ruined the plot. They had to restrain themselves till the very end.

She also has Moon in Lib. So for her, its all about the foreplay baby!🙌🏿

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posted May 03, 2022 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries23Degrees 🥰 Hope all is well. Thanks for trying to understand me, it means a lot.

If that's what air element represents, I would want to be reborn as an air sign and Neptune somewhere. Pride & Prejudice with Keira Knightley was good. <3 . The slow burn reminds me of Ever After with Drew Barrymore but then I'm a sucker for romance movies that's not sex focus. I def need to look into Jane Austen's work~

Do you watch Korean Drama? Some are def slow burn but some ending got no where haha because someone may passed away and never got together (I used to be into those stuff too, kind of like Romeo and Juliet).
My fav has to be It's okay to not be okay. Man... It was intense. The love they have for each other like sticking together through the healing of their trauma and accepting each other's dark past and having compassion and self development. I love those kind of love too. 😵

"Jane & Darcy couldn't get together too early. It would have ruined the plot. They had to restrain themselves till the very end."

That has to be the best part 😂 and the foreplay 😆

My guy has Libra rising right, but he would not understand why I enjoy seeing each other once in a while, let the texting/phone calls does the imagination. It's rather interesting. He has Mars in the 7th, maybe it was stalling his action. lolol

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posted May 03, 2022 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in 7th wants to get to the "crux" of the relationship quickly. It explains the opposition of Ven-Aries opp Moon-Pluto conj.

The opposition suggests that one energy is projected to the partner(in this case it seems to be Ven in Aries).

So your partner wants things to happen NOW. That's the Mars in 7th in their chart that is symbolized by your Ven IN Aries. Things must "actualize" quickly for Mars/Aries energy.

#In other news

Korean films tend to like the themes of "love lost". There is pain often associated with love I.e unrequited/ secret/taboo etc. Something about Ven-Sat themes (blocked love) show up again and again. This is the slow burn . The small moments matter instead of the "epic" explosions of passion. I know what you mean.

If you resonate with such films, is it the depth of restrained passion that you are observing (perhaps internalizing it to be what you dissociate with because of Ven in Aries)? Or is it because you believe that in order for love to feel good, it had to be taken in small doses?(this to keep the palate clear and enjoy every morsel you pinch off of it)?🤷🏿‍♂️

If so,that Saturn square Sun would suggest that you find much resonance with living side by side with some sort of limitation or "hardship" . That (to quote Madonna) " if its bitter at the start. It gets sweeter in the end." That's where you find self actualization (Sun) and who you truly are I.e through appreciating the little, you find a lot of happiness🙏🏿

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posted May 19, 2022 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries23 your answer is thought provoking. It's going to take a long of time for me to understand how this fits into my psyche.

I've been meaning to respond but life gets too much and not much time to be in my own world.

But to answer that, I don't think I like pain with love now that I am healthier, but maybe when I was younger. I think it's the "It's us against the world". To have someone by your side when the world can be hard/cruel/mean feels loving. Now I am all over the place with this topic that I want to hide. My scatter thoughts. 😂

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posted May 20, 2022 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To answer your original question with a simple straightforward fact: this is because of your Venus in Revati (nakshatra). I have this placement too, and I am/feel the exact same way in partnership as your title describes—purity and devotion. Don’t be embarrassed; only others with this Venus will understand the full extent..

Venus in Revati Nakshatra: http://youtu.be/bmC8zdea-aw

Venus in Sidereal Pisces: http://youtu.be/sF4z2S6NUT0

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posted May 20, 2022 04:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
I think it's the "It's us against the world". To have someone by your side when the world can be hard/cruel/mean feels loving. Now I am all over the place with this topic that I want to hide. My scatter thoughts. 😂

I understand this. It's what I was feeling, when I was going through an especially hard time, and I was the only person involved, who had nobody.

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posted May 21, 2022 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Vansio
The links were fascinating! I used to watch KRS when I got into astrology. I can't imagine myself a Venus in Pisces. But my 7th/DSC mimics ViP. I jokingly thought of becoming a monk if I don't find the right person for me.

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💙💙💙💙 that's when we need that special person the most

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posted May 25, 2022 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://barbarapijan.com/bpa/Graha/Zukra/Zukra_Meena.htm

Same.. when I was a late teen I thought about becoming a nun or monk. These days I more simply practice brahmacarya (to be sexual abstinent while single and fidelity when partnered)

When Venus is in a sidereal Jupiterian sign, especially in the Navamsa chart (ninth harmonic), these natives look for a long-term potential from the get go, otherwise are fundamentally disinterested. And wish to be friends with their partner foremost.

Sometimes I’ve wondered if I’m asexual, but I’m definitely attracted to the one I love. I usually involve myself in relationships that can develop my psychic intuition and clairsentience; which doesn’t necessarily mean the other person has the same capability, rather I feel profoundly and evidentially connected.

Because this is Venus, it applies to female friendships as well; in my life, we largely speak about and through our intuition. Once I was on the phone with my friend 6000 miles away, who had moved to a new house, and out of nowhere mid-conversation the color yellow glaringly came to mind. And I interrupted what she was saying to ask “why do I see yellow everywhere?!” and she laughed because she had just walked into her kitchen which was all-yellow, the walls and countertop to floor tiles. This friend of mine also has Revati Venus, so 👁 connection is exceptionally refined and understood. the planet Venus rules eyesight and vision.

You have the SN in your fifth house, which can mean a tendency to be sacrificial in love matters, tolerating ambivalence.

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posted May 26, 2022 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amoranthaniela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo can be like this, as Virgo can have childlike innocence and not always need to see relationships through a sexual lens. Not only that, but Virgo can tend to prefer celibacy. Virgo's house is the 6th and you have a lot there. 11th/Aqua house and 12th house/ Pisces placements will do this as well (especially the house).

They feel love in a very platonic way, and universal and unconditional way. I have things in these signs and houses, and sadly many people cannot understand my love style. It's not jealous or possessive and it's very friendly even, and if anything friendship is most important to me.

But to many others wanting to be "friends" is supposed to be like being on the bottom of the food chain? Or that being "friendzoned" is the biggest insult? I cannot relate to that thinking. For me, true friendship is one of the highest honors in the universe.


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posted May 27, 2022 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
vansio, thank you for sharing your story with me. <3 <3 It gives me hope to find a loving friendship with a female. I can relate to questioning your sexuality. It's confusing when society/culture taught us something different.

At this rate I count myself as demisexual. I've recently experience true sexual attraction for someone. Our connection/emotions were in sync. That's when I know it has to be this kind of connection if I want marriage. Otherwise, nah. no way.

The SN is spot on, I struggle in relationships and tolerate behavior/relationships that didn't align with me.

Amoranthaniela
Totally. My friendship are as painful as my romantic ones when we go our separate ways. I lost count how many times I grief when we split.

But haha I am kind of possessive with friends but at the same time I understand their need for freedom and growth and space. Just don't forget me <3 Seeing my 7H ruler is in the 6H, that's a great point. It got me thinking *ponders* I love to ponder.

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posted May 28, 2022 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HomesickJourneyWoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Outside of astrology, you could be like me - on the Asexual spectrum. I'm personally Demisexual - I require that connection of friendship before I can become sexually attracted, and even then it isn't guaranteed.

My Mars and Venus are pretty close together and I had an astrologer tell me years ago that it could mean I was asexual or bisexual. Turns out she sparked my search for whether or not asexuality was an orientation (it is!)
Check out AVEN.org - you may recognize yourself.

Astrologically, I'm seeing that Venus in Aries as someone who wants a playmate as well as a lover, and though you can look at sex as play, I meant you want a buddy as well - in 11H, you want that someone for more than just the sexy times, you want a partner in crime, a friend, a compatriot, a fellow rebel...more of an associate than a lover. It's almost cliche to say that Aquariuses relate better to people as friends or that everyone is a friend to Aquarius, but there's that interest in Humanity as a whole instead of individuals. Not to say that you don't/can't value an individual, but too much emphasis on individuality doesn't make sense to you (I've got Pluto and NN in 11H so I'm befuddled right along with you at times).

But that's just my 2 cents.

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