posted April 30, 2022 02:18 PM            

I mean I get what you're saying in comparison to the more feminine types, but Aries energy isn't all that "intimidating".

I have a Scorpio stellium with mars in Sagittarius.

Taurus Ascendant, Libra moon.

Aries energy in women is usually high-strung and overbearing.. but intimidating? nah.

It's more annoying than anything only because their power is usually surface level. A punch in the face (Aries) or years of manipulative tactics behind the scenes? (Pluto). All is fair in love and war.

posted April 30, 2022 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by ElfinPisces:
I don’t mean to hurt anyone’s feelings but I just noticed that even Pisces & Taurus women that have masculine energy is because of their Aries placements, Aries women are always very troublesome and love to bully people, they also suffer from pathological jealousy, Please why are they like this ?

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posted April 30, 2022 08:16 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:

All pretty feminine women imo

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I believe OP talking about Aries SUN women, not Venus.

posted May 01, 2022 04:58 AM            

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Originally posted by married11years:
I believe OP talking about Aries SUN women, not Venus.

And I agreed, regardless of fire, earth, air, water, there always feminine women and masculine women in each.

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OP clearly stated that even if a woman is a Pisces or Taurus, she views them as masculine if they have *any* Aries influence. So she's not talking about just the Suns. Being an Aries Sun doesn't make you masculine either. I'm super feminine & girly! Not into sports or constantly competing. I am very direct & self-confident though. ❤ That much is true.

posted May 01, 2022 05:04 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Not true.

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Right.

posted May 01, 2022 05:12 AM            

There ya go, beside her water Sun sign, the rest is in fire sign. I wouldn't be offended at what she said, because she herself is pack of Aries in her own chart.

posted May 01, 2022 05:19 AM            

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Originally posted by married11years:
LovelyAries86, just in case you don't know, OP said it herself in her other thread she is:
Pisces Sun
Aries Mercury
Aries Moon
Aries Venus
Aries Mars.

There ya go, beside her water Sun sign, the rest is in fire sign. I wouldn't be offended at what she said, because she herself is pack of Aries in her own chart.

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So she's referring to herself as a troublesome bully devoid of femininity?? LOL

posted May 01, 2022 05:39 AM            

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Originally posted by married11years:
LovelyAries86, just in case you don't know, OP said it herself in her other thread she is:
Pisces Sun
Aries Mercury
Aries Moon
Aries Venus
Aries Mars.

There ya go, beside her water Sun sign, the rest is in fire sign. I wouldn't be offended at what she said, because she herself is pack of Aries in her own chart.

Anyways
OP, I miss you, Welcome back! OP, miss seeing your threads and your snappy and feisty Aries Mercury and Aries Mars traits, lol.

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Hey dear 😍, missed you too , happy May 1st

posted May 01, 2022 05:41 AM            

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Originally posted by 93nov:
Meh.

I mean I get what you're saying in comparison to the more feminine types, but Aries energy isn't all that "intimidating".

I have a Scorpio stellium with mars in Sagittarius.

Taurus Ascendant, Libra moon.

Aries energy in women is usually high-strung and overbearing.. but intimidating? nah.

It's more annoying than anything only because their power is usually surface level. A punch in the face (Aries) or years of manipulative tactics behind the scenes? (Pluto). All is fair in love and war.

I also have mars conjunct pluto and nn natally so my response is probably a little bias.. lol.

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You’re talking on behalf of all Aries with your placements , you’re not like that but the ones I’ve met are like I explained

posted May 01, 2022 06:48 AM            

however i'm not a jealous person, i'm not narcissistic or a bully or a lot of the other things you've said and i find it odd that you think it's ok to make such blanket statements about others in such a negative fashion

then backpedal and say things like "oh but being masculine isn't bad" then repeating a list of horrible traits you've decided all women with something in aries must have

it makes you come off poorly to say the least, and you should maybe consider reflecting on that

i might have an aries moon but that doesn't make me into the sort of horrible person you've painted, and it's not the masculinity bit of it that's problematic with your statement (there's a huge difference between someone looking masculine and having masculine personality traits...and i personally don't find masculine personality traits to be negative) it's all the other accusations that follow

just not cool, idk, you do you though

but i hope you understand saying "i don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings but you're all horrible pieces of **** " essentially is going to create automatic negativity because you're going out of your way to be insulting

posted May 01, 2022 07:11 AM            

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Originally posted by ElfinPisces:
Why do Aries women find it hard to accept that they’re a male sign ? It’s not bad honestly, Leos are the most masculine sign but you’ll never see Leo women trying to fight anyone cos they were regarded as masculine, same with Sagittarius, besides all the celebrities you have all mentioned have other placements and yes I am specific about Aries sun cos it’s in it’s exaltation so most Aries suns behave like the typical Aries not because of other placements, to me it’s not bad at all , the only problem I have with Aries is them going around bullying everyone that bruises their ego with a good self esteem, Leos or Sagittarius would never do that , I made this thread all most of y’all are being defensive, yes I understand it hurts when a woman is regarded as masculine cos she was born on a particular day and time of the month , it’s out of our control but acceptance is the quickest way to recovery , Another problem with Aries is that y’all are very narrow minded, normally you sit an think oh Yh astrologically we’re a male sign , we’re good leaders , protectors and all not justifying the toxic part of it like narcissism, bullying and then get angry when they say you’re masculine

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posted May 01, 2022 07:19 AM            

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Originally posted by married11years:
LovelyAries86, just in case you don't know, OP said it herself in her other thread she is:
Pisces Sun
Aries Mercury
Aries Moon
Aries Venus
Aries Mars.

There ya go, beside her water Sun sign, the rest is in fire sign. I wouldn't be offended at what she said, because she herself is pack of Aries in her own chart.

Anyways
OP, I miss you, Welcome back! OP, miss seeing your threads and your snappy and feisty Aries Mercury and Aries Mars traits, lol.

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if that's the case then that's a hell of a lot of projection no? also it doesn't make what's said any better

i don't take it personally because it's not reflective of me, but i'm more than capable of seeing that these just aren't things you say about other people while going "not to insult anyone but..."

calling others narcissists, bullies, and other assorted words and phrases that equate with someone being a really horrible damaging person to be around is just not the sort of **** that can be said without being insulting

these are insults, and they have nothing to do with "masculinity" either

so if that is her chart and she's projecting her personal issues at others you know...that's still not cool and it's not going to go over well

posted May 01, 2022 11:56 AM            

Often-times,masculine is associated with men. And Feminine with women. Typically that is what the archetype Venus(women) and Mars (men)symbolism is all about. But life has shown me that its not always as straightforward as that.

Masculine is the energy of "I will get what I want".And feminine is "I will attract what I want ". Let us not confuse "masculine" with muscles. As much as we will not confuse "feminine"to mean "breasts" or "hips".

I have seem women who have the aforementioned physique that behave very "macho". And men with muscles that behave feminine (also not to be confused with "gay"- as that is an orientation and not an energy projection)

The definition describes the personality of the energy.Not its gender. That is important to note.

With Aries, the ruler is Mars. So the energy tends towards masculine i.e. Mars energy is passion/energy and a "can do" attitude or fire of inspiration.So the native it rules(most particularly Moon in Aries ime) do tend to behave in a very "Get what I want" way.

With a woman,it can be that because she may lack the "restraint" that societal norms have placed on the "good little woman" role, her approach is abrasive and jarring and therefore called "uncharacteristically" female or "butch".

This has nothing to do with her physical appearance. But more to do with he overall " take charge" energy e.g Lucy Lawless and Angelina Jolie are two such examples I can think of.

They are definitely NO "damsel in distress" in my view. But they aren't "manly" and "unattractive" in physical appearance either. Quite the contrary .

Physical appearance is more on other factors that play a part in how a person looks i.e Moon on angle will give a "fleshy" look in the family and Jupiter on the angle can tend towards "bigness" in the family.

But both natives(if say Moon in Aries) will behave in a very "go get what I want" way that it will be considered by others too "macho". This especially if they are women.

So women with Aries Moon/Aries Venus, Mars= Moon/Sun midpoint or Mars conj angles, are not the type to be "passive" and wait for the flowers to bloom. Patience is not their thing.

In the same breath , men with Moon in Lib/Mars in Lib, Ven=Moon/Sun midpoint or Ven conj angles etc. Are the type to be cooperative, amiable and palatable. David Beckham (once questioned heavily about his sexual orientation and the first world famous "metrosexual")has Ven= Sun/Moon midpoint.

David however does not have big breasts nor wide hips. Infact his appearance is more mercurial or even Saturnian in essence imo (great bone structure on his face).🤷🏿‍♂️

posted May 01, 2022 12:15 PM            

When I first saw this thread, I thought of one of my favourite memes:

posted May 01, 2022 01:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I think the definition of "feminine" and "masculine" can be broad.

Often-times,masculine is associated with men. And Feminine with women. Typically that is what the archetype Venus(women) and Mars (men)symbolism is all about. But life has shown me that its not always as straightforward as that.

Masculine is the energy of "I will get what I want".And feminine is "I will attract what I want ". Let us not confuse "masculine" with muscles. As much as we will not confuse "feminine"to mean "breasts" or "hips".

I have seem women who have the aforementioned physique that behave very "macho". And men with muscles that behave feminine (also not to be confused with "gay"- as that is an orientation and not an energy projection)

The definition describes the personality of the energy.Not its gender. That is important to note.

With Aries, the ruler is Mars. So the energy tends towards masculine i.e. Mars energy is passion/energy and a "can do" attitude or fire of inspiration.So the native it rules(most particularly Moon in Aries ime) do tend to behave in a very "Get what I want" way.

With a woman,it can be that because she may lack the "restraint" that societal norms have placed on the "good little woman" role, her approach is abrasive and jarring and therefore called "uncharacteristically" female or "butch".

This has nothing to do with her physical appearance. But more to do with he overall " take charge" energy e.g Lucy Lawless and Angelina Jolie are two such examples I can think of.

They are definitely NO "damsel in distress" in my view. But they aren't "manly" and "unattractive" in physical appearance either. Quite the contrary .

Physical appearance is more on other factors that play a part in how a person looks i.e Moon on angle will give a "fleshy" look in the family and Jupiter on the angle can tend towards "bigness" in the family.

But both natives(if say Moon in Aries) will behave in a very "go get what I want" way that it will be considered by others too "macho". This especially if they are women.

So women with Aries Moon/Aries Venus, Mars= Moon/Sun midpoint or Mars conj angles, are not the type to be "passive" and wait for the flowers to bloom. Patience is not their thing.

In the same breath , men with Moon in Lib/Mars in Lib, Ven=Moon/Sun midpoint or Ven conj angles etc. Are the type to be cooperative, amiable and palatable. David Beckham (once questioned heavily about his sexual orientation and the first world famous "metrosexual")has Ven= Sun/Moon midpoint.

David however does not have big breasts nor wide hips. Infact his appearance is more mercurial or even Saturnian in essence imo (great bone structure on his face).🤷🏿‍♂️

So I think what was meant by this post was "Aries women are "go getters". A trait that is often associated with the boldness of someone whom is born male. But it is not going after appearance (I think).Nor suggestive of sexual orientation or overall "lack" of attractiveness🤔

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posted May 01, 2022 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by ElfinPisces:
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, so because I asked a question then I’m projecting? This is why astrology is sooooooo biased , so much intolerance, anything concerning others is about their astrological placements but when it’s concerning y’all then everyone starts preaching a sermon and laying false accusations like saying the person is projecting and all lol ......

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posted May 01, 2022 03:03 PM            

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Originally posted by ElfinPisces:
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, so because I asked a question then I’m projecting? This is why astrology is sooooooo biased , so much intolerance, anything concerning others is about their astrological placements but when it’s concerning y’all then everyone starts preaching a sermon and laying false accusations like saying the person is projecting and all lol ......

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nice deflection and gaslighting, how is it biased astrology for people to tell you that calling others narcissists and bullies etc for having a planet in a single sign is wrong?

there's no false accusations here you did say insulting, unnecessary things and you didn't frame it like just a question

you went beyond just stating something about masculinity and started talking about a rather rare personality disorder and labeling a lot of people with it

the comment i made about projection had to do with you saying no matter what if a woman has a planet in aries then they'll exhibit those behaviors and being told most of your placements are there

you're being very disingenuous here, and that doesn't work in text

there's ways to ask a question that don't involve calling entire groups of people narcissists and so on, and that's a heavy word

you realize that's a personality disorder correct? one that ruins the lives of people who suffer from it and the lives of the people who are around them as well in many cases

that's a not light thing to call people, and it's very wrong of you to do

rather than addressing that you're talking about astrological bias when it's literally bias of you to say that kind of thing about all women with something in aries

idk who you manipulate with this kind of wording and twisting in person, but it doesn't work for text

posted May 01, 2022 03:14 PM            

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Originally posted by ElfinPisces:
I don’t mean to hurt anyone’s feelings but I just noticed that even Pisces & Taurus women that have masculine energy is because of their Aries placements, Aries women are always very troublesome and love to bully people, they also suffer from pathological jealousy, Please why are they like this ?

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the question here is "why are they like this?" but "always very troublesome and love to bully people, they also suffer from pathological jealousy" is a statement

it's also not a list of masculine traits either, as bullying and jealousy aren't tied to gender at all (people of both genders exhibit these traits in different ways generally speaking) so they're statements that are inherently bias against a sign while simultaneously not having anything to do with your initial statement on masculinity

you went on further to talk about narcissism and toxicity

so at what point were you backing up your claim, asking legitimate unbias questions, not making bias statements etc? i can't find it

and like i said i don't take it personal, but i'm watching you play victim after saying clearly loaded things and open with things like "i don't want to be insulting but..." and then throwing out actual insults and it's very backhanded and passive aggressive

posted May 01, 2022 04:24 PM            

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Originally posted by ElfinPisces:
Why do Aries women find it hard to accept that they’re a male sign ? It’s not bad honestly.

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Aries Women are FEMALE regardless. Their zodiac sign doesn't change that.

Stop projecting YOUR personal traits - insecure, jealous, masculine bully - onto us. None of that shyt is positive nor is it accurate about me whatsoever. But go on and play dumb if that helps you sleep (in your manly bed) at night.