posted April 30, 2022 05:17 PM            

I have it and I HATE it. Mercury Leo in 9th, Moon in Cap in 2nd... I struggle to communicate my emotions well. It comes out choppy, mixed up, and I hurt people's feelings. Even positive emotions come out choppy.

Mercury on its own allows me to speak well, teach well, communicate well.... but not when my moon steps in. It's very stop start.

How have you experienced it, either as the owner or the recipient? Any words of advice for how to manage it better?

posted May 01, 2022 04:10 AM            

I can express my emotions in fact it is a need for me to express my emotions.

How this aspect plays out for me is when I am logical I am too logical- I dont feel my emotions.. after a while my emotions come out and then logic flys out the window..

posted May 01, 2022 12:14 PM            

QUOTE p 235-236 (1974 version)

Moon Inconjunct Mercury
With the Moon inconjunct Mercury
your emotions and intellect interfere with each other so much that you have difficulty in solving your problems.
You overreact emotionally to situations and so cannot rationalize them properly.
When you inject feeling instead of examining the facts, any reasonable evaluation of the situation becomes impossible.
You infer that criticism is directed at 'you' when that is not the case at all;
your reaction is all out of proportion to the truth.
But you are emotionally aroused and take out your hostility on those dearest to you without realizing it.
People can easily learn to resent and avoid you at the same time.

You carry tremendous guilt for the way you behave,
but nevertheless you repeat the behavior when similar circumstances occur.
. .
A vicious circle is established,
which can eventually cause you much mental anxiety.
You should resist taking action on any problem that develops until you can seek an objective opinion about it.
. .
Your initial reaction is most likely to be faulty and unjustified when the facts are examined carefully.

You have an unconscious desire to be of service to everyone you meet, but you are resented for this.
Instead of gaining everyone's approval for your deeds, you arouse their criticism.
It seems you are not content just to perform a service, but have to bring attention to yourself for doing it.
This touches a raw nerve in people,
who then feel obligated to you and resent it.
To begin with, you should concern yourself with your own affairs, for they are your highest priority.
Forget about other people until you have your own problems in order.
Otherwise
you will run the risk of being used by those you show an interest in
and will be hurt when you realize what they've done.

You can work out your desire to be of service through 'professional' endeavors.
In your job,
do exactly what is expected of you and nothing more.
Never volunteer,
or the chances are you'll complain of how exhausted you are because of all the work you have to do!
You are too sensitive and easily irritated to complicate your life unnecessarily.

In your romantic associations you try too hard to be desired.
You put yourself in difficult situations with the person you are attracted to
and are crushed if your efforts are unrewarded.
. .
Try instead to give your prospective partner a chance to demonstrate affection before you assert yourself.
Otherwise you may encourage someone to abuse your love and take advantage of you.
. .
Learn to let a relationship develop without putting 'pressure' on it.

end/Pelletier-Quote

Betty Lunstead (c 1980)
Astrological Insights into Personality
QUOTE page 155

Moon-Mercury Quincunx
Any quincunx in the chart shows strain.
The strain is not a big 'tense' feeling like
the square or opposition,
but is 'worrisome'.
Because this strain is subtle, or gnawing,
it eventually affects the health.
. .
When MERCURY doesn't express the 'feelings' of the MOON, the "internal self" is not at peace.
. .
The qualities of the 'signs' need to be understood;
one ~tends to favor 'one' sign, and suppress the other,
but both qualities need to find 'expression'.

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Hope that brings some insights?
If it DOESN'T fit you, feel free to let it go.

You DO have other aspects that may assist the situation with your inconjuncts/quincunxes. Those are 'minor' aspects .. and yet if they are receiving extra highlights from 'transits' you're having, then you'd be more-irritated/bothered BY that aspect.

See the extra-stimulus TO the aspects as a way to have them "sticking out" more, so you can solve 'how' they work?

posted May 01, 2022 03:01 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Yes sis! That’s exactly it- it’s stop start, either one or the other comes out but not together. And I experience the inner turmoil and constantly question whether I was right or not!!!

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posted May 01, 2022 03:23 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by mirage29:

Robert Pelletier,
Planets in Aspect :
Understanding your Inner Dynamics
c 1974

QUOTE p 235-236 (1974 version)

[b]Moon Inconjunct Mercury
With the Moon inconjunct Mercury
your emotions and intellect interfere with each other so much that you have difficulty in solving your problems. TRUE
You overreact emotionally to situations and so cannot rationalize them properly. TRUE
When you inject feeling instead of examining the facts, any reasonable evaluation of the situation becomes impossible. TRUE
You infer that criticism is directed at 'you' when that is not the case at all;
your reaction is all out of proportion to the truth. TRUE
But you are emotionally aroused and take out your hostility on those dearest to you without realizing it.
People can easily learn to resent and avoid you at the same time. SEMI TRUE

You carry tremendous guilt for the way you behave, but nevertheless you repeat the behavior when similar circumstances occur. TRUE
. .
A vicious circle is established,
which can eventually cause you much mental anxiety.
You should resist taking action on any problem that develops until you can seek an objective opinion about it. WORKING ON IT
. .
Your initial reaction is most likely to be faulty and unjustified when the facts are examined carefully. TRUE

You have an unconscious desire to be of service to everyone you meet, but you are resented for this.
Instead of gaining everyone's approval for your deeds, you arouse their criticism.
It seems you are not content just to perform a service, but have to bring attention to yourself for doing it.
This touches a raw nerve in people,
who then feel obligated to you and resent it.

MOSTLY TRUE.

To begin with, you should concern yourself with your own affairs, for they are your highest priority.
Forget about other people until you have your own problems in order.
Otherwise you will run the risk of being used by those you show an interest in
and will be hurt when you realize what they've done. SO TRUE

You can work out your desire to be of service through 'professional' endeavors. FOR MANY YEARS I HAVE WORKED IN HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY.

In your job, do exactly what is expected of you and nothing more. I HAVE ALWAYS DONE MORE THAN WHAT IS EXPECTED OF ME. EVEN WHEN I WAS A MANAGER, AT THE EVENTS I WAS GIVING TIME OFFS TO MY TEAM, LETTING THEM ENJOY THE PLACE WHİLE I KEPT WORKING ALONE...

Never volunteer, or the chances are you'll complain of how exhausted you are because of all the work you have to do! TRUE

You are too sensitive and easily irritated to complicate your life unnecessarily. TRUE

In your romantic associations you try too hard to be desired.
You put yourself in difficult situations with the person you are attracted to
and are crushed if your efforts are unrewarded. SEMI TRUE
. .
Try instead to give your prospective partner a chance to demonstrate affection before you assert yourself. SEMI TRUE
Otherwise you may encourage someone to abuse your love and take advantage of you. TRUE

Learn to let a relationship develop without putting 'pressure' on it.

end/Pelletier-Quote

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Hope that brings some insights?
If it DOESN'T fit you, feel free to let it go.

Much Love[/B]

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GREAT INSIGHTS. SPOT ON. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

posted May 01, 2022 04:55 PM            

I guess both sis and I have the quincunx, not the inconjunct. But the reading for the inconjunct does ring true.

I think one issue I struggle greatly with is that my feelings on a subject seem very real until I address it with the person it connects to. Once it's out of my head and mouth, and they respond, I feel twisted and confused. And often times I feel like there's a bit of gaslighting happening... which confuses things more.

posted May 01, 2022 05:56 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
What sis said.

I guess both sis and I have the quincunx, not the inconjunct. But the reading for the inconjunct does ring true.

I think one issue I struggle greatly with is that my feelings on a subject seem very real until I address it with the person it connects to. Once it's out of my head and mouth, and they respond, I feel twisted and confused. And often times I feel like there's a bit of gaslighting happening... which confuses things more.

The advice to never address an issue without first getting another's perspective on it is great! Except for the part that I don't always have that objective other person to advise me...

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Hi stonemoon. Quincunx and inconjunct are the same aspect. ( 150 )

Your experiences about Moon Mercury inconjunct are almost identical to mine.

posted May 01, 2022 06:14 PM            

My mars trines my moon, so when I feel something, I really feel it and it becomes a compulsive need to express it. I try very hard to express myself rationally, but I end up hurting people.

I have a very hard time finding the line between me being hurtful and them gaslighting me in some way. While I take ownership in my awkwardness of expression and know it probably results in hurt feelings, more times than I am comfortable with I have been left reeling wondering what I said that resulted in such a big reaction. It only happens with people who are very close to me, but the result has been pretty devastating to the trust in the relationship.

posted May 02, 2022 05:06 PM            

mars trine moon quincunx mercury leo

does not look bad to me. in which sign Mars is ?

posted May 02, 2022 06:47 PM            

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Originally posted by sis:
I am suprised to hear moon trine mars cause negative acts... I think it could be something else... what are the aspects Mercury in Leo is making ?

mars trine moon quincunx mercury leo

does not look bad to me. in which sign Mars is ?

dont cave in please. everybody has flaws and despite the flaws we love and we are loved. Mercury Leo is an entertaining talker

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Mars trine moon is not negative- I meant that because I have it I am more inclined to act without thinking bcs I act with feeling… so I have a short amount of time between feeling something and needing to express it to the other person. Hope that makes sense!

Mercury is inconjunct moon exact. Wide conjunct Saturn (5degrees)… wide square to asc (4 degrees)…

Looking at two people this happened with- they are both sun Pluto people. One conjunct, one opposed. And they both have Capricorn moon. The one woman has cap moon square Pluto.

I am fairly Plutonian myself and I attract Plutonian people. I have cap moon super wide square Pluto, (10 degrees if that even counts). So you’d think we’d resonate well enough to avoid this… I also have Neptune in first house so I think maybe this changes the way I am perceived by others? Or maybe my own self expression is nebulous.

posted May 07, 2022 07:49 PM            

Turns out, I think the issue is Mercury square Asc!!! I don't know why I never saw this aspect, but I started reading about it, ... not my favorite. And very true. I don't think people see me as insincere, but I do think I can hurt people's feelings without realizing I did. And my timing often sucks.