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Topic: Is there anything significant in having two signs from the same element w/o the 3rd?
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posted May 05, 2022 07:57 PM
  
Hello all, I'm glad to be here  I had this question about basic natal astrology and was wondering about it. Say for example you have a Leo and Sagittarius in your Big Three, not having any Aries. Is there anything significant to that, e.g. Leo+Sag creating some form of hidden Aries energy? Or perhaps does that create an attraction to others from that third element you lack? I haven't been able to find answers online about this. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi
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posted May 05, 2022 10:25 PM
why would 2 things create a 3rd thing that's notably absent as part of the whole? attraction to what you're missing is dependent on individual, some people are more into those who are similar IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted May 05, 2022 11:18 PM
I have both Scorpio and Pisces placements, and if I meet early degree Cancers it would create a grand trine. I feel no romantic attraction towards Cancer placements though that being said. I have never been interested in them ever. My best friend however is Cancer though.IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle
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posted May 05, 2022 11:48 PM
Welcome!
Aries energy is related to Mars.. Look if Mars is strong in the chart that will create"hidden Aries energy", also decans co-rulers can have effect check if they fall in Mars decan.
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Aries23Degrees
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posted May 06, 2022 01:58 AM
Are you speaking if midpoints? These mathematical points "birth" the combo of the two energies combined. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere
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posted May 06, 2022 03:19 AM
Pattern completion can be attractive if your chart supports it. I have a Virgo Moon trine Taurus Venus. Early Capricorn placements would form an Earth grand trine, but unfortunately would also square my Libra Pluto. It also would fall into my H3 and I have never felt any romantic attraction to early Capricorn placements. Early Cancer placements (also midpoint) seem much more interesting to me. It would be in my H9 and my chart ruler Venus is conjunct Jupiter, so I guess it just feels much more comfortable to me even if it squares my Pluto. No relationship experience with this though, so it could still end up to be a horrible synastry placement in the end. As far as I’m aware of, midpoints aren’t energy in your chart but sensitive points. If there is a transit or synastry placement on a midpoint it can trigger the planets involved. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted May 06, 2022 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Pattern completion can be attractive if your chart supports it. I have a Virgo Moon trine Taurus Venus. Early Capricorn placements would form an Earth grand trine, but unfortunately would also square my Libra Pluto. It also would fall into my H3 and I have never felt any romantic attraction to early Capricorn placements. Early Cancer placements (also midpoint) seem much more interesting to me. It would be in my H9 and my chart ruler Venus is conjunct Jupiter, so I guess it just feels much more comfortable to me even if it squares my Pluto. No relationship experience with this though, so it could still end up to be a horrible synastry placement in the end. As far as I’m aware of, midpoints aren’t energy in your chart but sensitive points. If there is a transit or synastry placement on a midpoint it can trigger the planets involved.
Midpoints in and of themselves aren't potent. Not in my experience anyways. But I notice that if they square/opp/conj a planet. Especially when part of the personal planets Sun-mars. They gain weight. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere
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posted May 06, 2022 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Midpoints in and of themselves aren't potent. Not in my experience anyways.But I notice that if they square/opp/conj a planet. Especially when part of the personal planets Sun-mars. They gain weight.
I don’t have any specific experiences with midpoints. I have read something about Bhrigu Bindu in Vedic astrology. It’s the midpoint between the Moon and Rahu/north node and is known as a destiny point. I have also seen Sun conjunct Mars/Venus midpoint in the natal charts of celebrities several times. But I agree there has to be some kind of trigger, by itself I don’t think a midpoint has any power. IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle
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posted May 07, 2022 10:03 AM
Isn't the midpoint between Leo and Sagittarius in Libra, not Aries? (The shortest route)IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle
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posted May 09, 2022 08:20 AM
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posted May 09, 2022 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
I don’t have any specific experiences with midpoints. I have read something about Bhrigu Bindu in Vedic astrology. It’s the midpoint between the Moon and Rahu/north node and is known as a destiny point. I have also seen Sun conjunct Mars/Venus midpoint in the natal charts of celebrities several times. But I agree there has to be some kind of trigger, by itself I don’t think a midpoint has any power.
I meant more on terms of your own points. My sister has Sun/Moon midpoint conj Mars. She is very martial in her expression. This betrays her Sun in Tau/ Moon in Can placements. I wouldn't call her "soft" at all. I have Sun= Merc/Ur midpoint. So I often get sudden inspiration to say something. And it comes off very shocking and "off the wall" to most people. IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle
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posted May 18, 2022 06:38 AM
So what's the right answer for OP question, and my question about the midpoint between Leo and Sag. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere
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posted May 18, 2022 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
So what's the right answer for OP question, and my question about the midpoint between Leo and Sag.
Both are a midpoint. Libra is the close midpoint and Aries is the far midpoint. But neither carries any energy on its own. It is a sensitive point in transit or synastry. IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle
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posted May 18, 2022 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Both are a midpoint. Libra is the close midpoint and Aries is the far midpoint. But neither carries any energy on its own. It is a sensitive point in transit or synastry.
That makes sense geometrically ,,, the source i'm using didnt mention a far piont. Just stated to take the shortest route (close point).
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PlutoWasHere
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posted May 18, 2022 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I meant more on terms of your own points.My sister has Sun/Moon midpoint conj Mars. She is very martial in her expression. This betrays her Sun in Tau/ Moon in Can placements. I wouldn't call her "soft" at all. I have Sun= Merc/Ur midpoint. So I often get sudden inspiration to say something. And it comes off very shocking and "off the wall" to most people.
I have my MC = Sun/Moon midpoint. Not entirely sure what it does but my career has been important to me, not in an achievement sense like money and status but more for personal growth. It has challenged me to get out of my comfort zone, given me a sense of purpose and has brought me emotional satisfaction
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posted June 01, 2022 04:19 PM
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Randall
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posted June 08, 2022 02:47 PM
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posted June 08, 2022 04:08 PM
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posted June 08, 2022 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
I have my MC = Sun/Moon midpoint. Not entirely sure what it does but my career has been important to me, not in an achievement sense like money and status but more for personal growth. It has challenged me to get out of my comfort zone, given me a sense of purpose and has brought me emotional satisfaction
I think Mc=Sun/Moon is the striving for self actualization(Sun) and emotional fulfillment (Moon). It is important for you in this life to have a platform to express yourself and light the path for others (Sun) on one hand. But also take care or nurture them in some way(Moon). An example would be someone coming up with an idea of how to effectively reduce pain of childbirth without needles. Cominb up with the idea (Sun). Reduce pain pf childbirth (Moon). So the two together result on that. Moon i find (much like Ven) usually includes themes involving women. So Sun/Moon=MC may mean you serve women or vulnerable groups through bright ideas(Sun). And thats what you believe is important for you to achieve in life or be known for. IP: Logged |
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posted June 16, 2022 05:07 PM
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posted June 26, 2022 08:52 PM
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