posted May 06, 2022 01:56 AM            

I can be very intimidating in person and test to see if someone will break under me this is when I know the person is insecure and trying to one up either me or others, the guy at work was a Sagittarius with Leo Moon square Pluto and Mars in Scorpio, always making probing sexual remarks, not at anyone directly, but not afraid to say what was on his mind either we are similar except I react once provoked, not before.... We did this stand off stare with each other and his words were "Do you want to F*** me"

I have a Sun-Jupiter conjunction square Mars so found it very funny and laughed it off with him, he let out some of his most darkest things on walks home as we lived the same way, always consoled him and offered my support, I think my Mercury being conjunct his Moon helped.
There was also a night we walked home just before the first lockdown a drunk dude was passed out on the floor and he was far more cautious than me, All I cared about was the guy getting home safe, I am former military so rely on some learned things and some discipline, I helped the guy up but used my physical strength to not only signal that I am not to be messed with to the drunk dude as I could sense my co-workers insecurity and fears but that this Sagittarius who kept telling me over and over again that he knows how to defend himself and was taught these lessons won't find me scary as I am not about that. My tone is direct and forthright but I always intend to have the best in mind for the person, it is filtered through the action and direction that I apply to my feelings. I do play power games at times though as seen above.

I miss him, he moved to a different location working for the same company...
He was excellent at his job, not the best at holding back random bursts of anger, it only seemed to darken his mood and slow him down, I was the more proactive one in this situation taking a more laid back Saturnian / Jupiter / Mars approach. No emotion, sense the surroundings, apply what is needed, pure focus. This though... Earth Mars may be better suited since the job we were doing was physical.

What I did note is that he shifts into different characters and I don't, I cannot magically shift my presentation to something else, but I have a whole deeper world I keep underneath that I share with my loved one. What you see is what you get and this directness and stability of attitude I think is what led him to be openly honest about how he feels and things that were holding him back, I never did ask for it outright. He hates his mother yet don't appear at all sexist, this I think is likely helped by the fact his Moon square Mars is helped by the Pluto square which can transform his internal self.

We both had an appreciation for being thick skinned yet viper-mouthed when need be, had great fun making jokes of things and some things we would never openly say out loud to everyone due to the nature of said joke.

Where I falter personally is in emotional territory, I can lose my cool faster and I will explode something magnificent. Though over the years I have made huge progress with this and am much more a together person, different versions... I shed skins.

I have Sun opposite and Jupiter opposite Saturn and Mars is trine Uranus, square Mercury and in my 2nd house in Aries. Also have Part of Fortune here too in Aries. Leo South Node conjunct Mercury, My words when people ask me to do something is "No but I will" (Usually when I don't want to but for the benefit of us all I must) and "I can do". Sometimes just "ok" This sounds way off for a Taurus Mars right? just as Scorpio Mars is not really represented as it does in text form in reality either well from this guy though.

Then again I am far from the ideal "norm" in general, may have something to do with Aquarius North Node conjunct ascendant and Mercury inconjunct Uranus, Moon and Mars trine this planet too.

He is a Saturn in Aquarius, I am a Saturn in Capricorn.

Just some random additional at the end since we are talking about Mars. I have Venus in Gemini.

Mercury-Moon-Pluto T-square, Mercury at the apex conjunct descendant from 6th.

I want to touch on something about Emotions.
I sense on 3 levels, my personal emotions, the deeper unconscious emotions that caused me to be the way I am and the deeper implications on society if I don't own myself and face it and be brave enough to change. And the dimension that see's from a bird's eye view seeing the whole world and it's issues.

Now Neptune in Capricorn is said to be fallen, I agree with this notion somewhat, I can see the problems of the world but I want to apply practicality, when to touch the whole world we merely only have to write or sing, or be there in a sense that we are understanding humanity as a whole. To feel understood is such a gift, My Cap Neptune is limited to the physical world sadly, but how did I manage to understand beyond the physical world? There is Neptune in opposition to my Jupiter which is a very weak aspect at 10 degree's, but I still count it. Jupiter learns through experiencing life, Neptune in Cap needs solid evidence, you can now see how Neptune in Capricorn is enhanced by the Jupiter opposition due to the fact that Cancer is the exaltation of Neptune, the energy flow is an interesting balance.

I have Moon trine Neptune, Neptune is conjunct my ascendant ruler Uranus in the 11th. This is a very strong aspect in my chart being a 0 degree trine.

The Sun is trine Pluto at 8 degree's and Jupiter trine too

Moon is opposite Pluto.
Moon is exalted in the 2nd house though roughened up a bit by the Mars conjunction. I am still steadier than an Aries I attack the problem before hand setting myself up for an easier battle, so I iron my clothes before I go to work and I arrive 5 mins before I start every time.

I understand the Mars comparison is a little out of touch as a whole chart is needed, I am forming thoughts on the basic merits of said zodiac signs.

Long write up! Hope I had some folks attention, thanks for reading. I look forwards to your responses.

As a Leo South Node I want to express with great wisdom that to be objective is to see everything as an object, it undoes the self, pure objectivity is away from reality of the perceptions that fit humans to be moved forwards and in a direction in life.
This would be why Aquarius and Libra do badly as Sun signs though do offer a different flavor for the right people out there.

There are threads of people siding with certain signs mostly by 1 member, my thought is that you may like Leo energy and support it and think Scorpio are all bad, truth be they are much more alike than you may ever realize, try not to get lost in words. They mean nothing alone, apply experience. Subjectivity should be the basis of your story and observations my friend.

posted May 06, 2022 12:29 PM            

In my experience ,Tau Mars is THE most sensual placement I have had intimate relations with. I call them masters of touch. They absolutely love deep kissing, cuddling and generally "body emphasized" loving. They LOVE hugs.

The energy is geared towards creative pursuits I.e decorative/enhancements or beauty centred ones. They may avoid "sweat centred" jobs. Unless there is a quality air conditioner within the work vicinity OR ample breaks in-between.🤣

This is one placement that tends to conserve energy and WILL NOT. And I mean NOT use their energy resources superfluously.

So if they are on a chair in the living room at the end of the day. They ain't moving. Bring them a blanket to keep warm and recline the seat, so that they can watch their favourite program on TV. The only movement they will make that is worth any energy from thereon, is either towards the bed(to sleep or make love) or the fridge🤷🏿‍♂️

posted May 06, 2022 06:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I didn't quite follow what the post was about [b]SeaGoat19.

In my experience ,Tau Mars is THE most sensual placement I have had intimate relations with. I call them masters of touch. They absolutely love deep kissing, cuddling and generally "body emphasized" loving. They LOVE hugs.

The energy is geared towards creative pursuits I.e decorative/enhancements or beauty centred ones. They may avoid "sweat centred" jobs. Unless there is a quality air conditioner within the work vicinity OR ample breaks in-between.🤣

This is one placement that tends to conserve energy and WILL NOT. And I mean NOT use their energy resources superfluously.

So if they are on a chair in the living room at the end of the day. They ain't moving. Bring them a blanket to keep warm and recline the seat, so that they can watch their favourite program on TV. The only movement they will make that is worth any energy from thereon, is either towards the bed(to sleep or make love) or the fridge🤷🏿‍♂️

They work on their own inner clock,don't like to be interrupted/rushed(so don't ask them for "quickie" as it is very unsatisfying for them) and are often motivated by food/ delectables I.e. if the end reward is pleasure(Tau), the motivation to work (Mars) is usually strong.[/B]

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I love hugs, all that romantic stuff but I am not a couch potato.

It has been said that when the Moon is conjunct Mars it makes people passionate and regardless of the sign are proactive and brave people. It is true.

Famous Moon conjunct Mars people there is no Taurus Moon conjunct Mars examples.

Bruce Lee Scorpio conjunction.
Ricky Martin Pisces conjunction.
Angelina Jolie Aries conjunction.
Celine Dion has Moon in Aries conjunct Mars in Taurus.
Lewis Capaldi Conjunction in Leo.

All of them are hugely passionate people even the Pisces one.

Compare Celine Dion with Lewis Capldi, both are singers.

Lewis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpljgJPFWl8

Celine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX11yw6YL1w

The only famous Taurus Mars who are / were very active, Tom Cruise does all of his own stunts, some very extreme ones and seems to have a lack of fear Leo Moon square Taurus Mars, Sun in Cancer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I720xCnnPUY

Muhammad Ali the best boxer to have ever lived, Taurus Mars square Pluto in Leo square Aquarius Moon.

Sugar Ray Robinson was also a Taurus Mars famous boxer.

Thoughty2 is a Cancer Sun Capricorn Moon with Taurus Mars, Mercury in Leo very different job he does.. but is very active.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixra6x1XdjE

Edit there is one Taurus Moon conjunct Mars example.
Bruce Dickinson. Lead Singer of Iron Maiden.

posted May 06, 2022 07:20 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Hi SeaGoat9, I agree with your sentiments. People are complex. It’s too easy to reduce us to just one archetype. It can be funny and entertaining when it’s obviously intended that way but it can also be very hurtful, especially when you’re trying to have an open and honest discussion with someone.

I notice a lot of polarization in discussions. It’s the “if you’re not with me, you’re against me” energy that has me worried. It’s like people aren’t genuinely listening to each other anymore. We’re all just screaming to each other and whoever is the loudest wins. Maybe it’s my Libra Rising and Venus dominance, but it really annoys me when people don’t even try to understand what motivates someone else. I wonder if this energy is represented by transit Pluto entering the final degrees of Capricorn.

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I think it is personally the limitation of forums, words become their world and they forget a world exists outside of their own 2 dimensional vision.

This is a natal Jupiter theme that cannot see things as a whole rather than from just the inside and details which mostly are not fit for every day. Jupiter also is about morals, if your Jupiter is hit by hard aspects it will struggle to align with the purity it is meant to bring.

My Saturn keeps my Jupiter from going to huge excess as it is also conjunct my Sun, My ego is very in check, I just have a very Leonine way of expressing, but not to the level of the Leo on here who has a thing against Scorpio.

The boxed type thinking.

I thought it was just the Leo but even the Aries on here have a thing for over representing themselves. They pull off the innocent vibe well though and mean nothing, come off as childish, yes sorry Aries, I love you but the way you guys communicate is way different to me as a Cancer Sun, I come across as the old grandpa from 70 years ago at the age of 31.

Perhaps I am doing a similar thing though being a Taurus Mars, the martian effect.

Uranus strong in my chart keeps me from seeing myself above everyone, I am stubborn on thoughts when I am well thought out but sometimes I am definitely in the wrong too.

We are all humans folks, some humans think they are above though, we all die and nothing matters in the end but what we leave behind for those who have yet to go on their journeys.

posted May 06, 2022 09:04 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Hi SeaGoat9, I agree with your sentiments. People are complex. It’s too easy to reduce us to just one archetype. It can be funny and entertaining when it’s obviously intended that way but it can also be very hurtful, especially when you’re trying to have an open and honest discussion with someone.

I notice a lot of polarization in discussions. It’s the “if you’re not with me, you’re against me” energy that has me worried. It’s like people aren’t genuinely listening to each other anymore. We’re all just screaming to each other and whoever is the loudest wins. Maybe it’s my Libra Rising and Venus dominance, but it really annoys me when people don’t even try to understand what motivates someone else. I wonder if this energy is represented by transit Pluto entering the final degrees of Capricorn.

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posted May 07, 2022 01:45 AM            

The above description was barring aspects to Mars. They change things.

So if Plu/Ura or Sat aspects Mars,things tend to work out differently

Pluto-Mars for instance (esp the square, conj or opp) tends to have high reserves of energy and WILL tackle energy demanding projects.

If they do not do This, the other less desirable manifestation could be an explosive temper, problems with authority fugures and a generally unsettled individual whom is quick to be defensive and polarizing.

I have Mars square Moon. What I notice about Mars/Moon aspects, is the tendency for one to easily feel threatened. Be careful of practical jokes on these people. They may take that isht personally. Even "harmless" banter.

Early in their life, their security blanket(Moon) was likely unceremoniously snatched from them (Mars). Maybe they lived in conditions of physical/ psychological threat or intimidation? This where they couldn't let their inner child(Moon) out? So they always felt a need to be guarded/protected(Mars)?

posted May 07, 2022 01:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
@ SeaGoat19

The above description was barring aspects to Mars. They change things.

So if Plu/Ura or Sat aspects Mars,things tend to work out differently

Pluto-Mars for instance (esp the square, conj or opp) tends to have high reserves of energy and WILL tackle energy demanding projects.

If they do not do This, the other less desirable manifestation could be an explosive temper, problems with authority fugures and a generally unsettled individual whom is quick to be defensive and polarizing.

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posted May 07, 2022 02:30 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
@teasel, I can understand that at some point you get disappointed in people. But there are different negotiating styles available, including removing yourself from the discussion if it’s not serving you in any way. If someone is not listening you can start screaming and this might relieve some of your frustration but it’s not getting you anywhere closer to your goal. It might even have an adverse effect because people can use that against you. Fight smarter not harder.

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posted May 07, 2022 04:51 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
@Aries23Degrees, maybe aspects between Mars and Jupiter also contributes to a more passionate approach? Jupiter is the planet of optimism, risk taking and tends to expand whatever it touches.

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Yes. There can be an unhealthy portion of self confidence. This to a point where the native is risk seeking.

Mars is the risk taker.Jupiter is the gambler.The two combined( esp by square, opp or conj) can produce a native with an overabundance of self importance.

posted May 07, 2022 07:07 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Thank you for your reply Aries23Degrees. Planetary aspects are very interesting and even more so when you take houses and rulership into account. It becomes trickier to interpret it though when you increase the variables. And sometimes planets are so fused together it becomes difficult to separate them. I have this with my Virgo Moon square Gemini Mercury. My Moon is so influenced by Mercury it’s difficult to sense these two as different energies.

@SeaGoat9, your style feels very familiar. It reminds me of another forum member that is currently on a break. Must be that Capricorn energy you have in common.

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My brother is a Cap and me and him are very alike, our ego can clash but the direction we go in is very much alike. He was the first to put me in a category as below him until my actions caught up to him and my values matched, he plays second fiddle. But I know he has accepted it as he tends to listen now rather than butt me out. That tells me all I need to know and that I don't need to push that I am greater than, just know that whilst I may look a certain way, my actions and intentions are what matter, he gets that, Mars and Capricorn go well together, but he is an Aries Mars so this is quite a different Mars to a Cap Mars.

Dignified Aries Mars shows great respect, perhaps to him it was real and he was proven wrong.

I find him admirable.