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Topic: Do Pisces feel remorse?
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rockwell
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posted May 06, 2022 04:49 PM
  
Let's assume that the Pisces is the one who caused pain to his loved ones by his actions (or inactions). How would they react? Self-pity? Silence? Displacement? Withdrawal?IP: Logged |
kani
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posted May 06, 2022 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by rockwell:
Let's assume that the Pisces is the one who caused pain to his loved ones by his actions (or inactions). How would they react? Self-pity? Silence? Displacement? Withdrawal?
They don't if they feel the hurt they caused was out of self defense. They might regret it a bit if their retaliation was over the top but not too much. But I need more context to answer the situation more precisely. IP: Logged |
rockwell
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posted May 06, 2022 05:37 PM
My example has nothing to do with self-defense. I really mean constellations where the victim is innocent and the Pisces caused harm. Everybody can make mistakes. For example, Michael Jackson's physican was a Pisces who accidentally killed him by neglect. (He gave him Propofol and didn't monitor his vital functions). Another example is a friend who is friends with a Pisces physican. He made a mistake and she has to go through a 2nd surgery. IP: Logged |
married11years
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posted May 06, 2022 06:08 PM
Please don't quote me, probably gonna delete this later since it personal.No, Pisces don't remorse, not the DARK side of Pisces. I always thought Pisces is the gentle sign too, but when they go crazy who knows. Well, I'm speaking of one Pisces I know personally. A Pisces Sun raped me 5 years ago.
He is Pisces Sun,
Aquarius Venus,
Scorpio Mars, Scorpio Saturn,
Scorpio Pluto,
Capricorn Jupiter, Capricorn Neptune. Mars Conjunction Saturn. Sun Trine Mars too. And I was told that is a great placement to have as it show Mars blend with Sun, give the assertive, confident, but also able to control himself from Mars impulse. He "Mars" Dominant though (not his Sun). I didn't know a Scorpio Mars can go that insanely obsessive and possessive over the woman they love. Not speaking for everyone ofcourse, but I said my individual personal experience with one. This man no self pity, nor withdrawal. Blunt as heck, Domineering and stubborn as heck. Sun squared Uranus. Mars in Scorpio dominant his whole chart (according to the Astrodienst Walter Pullen calculator). The thing is the Sun sign is not everything, you need to take a whole chart into consideration, as the placement and aspects matter more than the sign. Maybe you should look at your friend whole chart. If your friend Sun is weak or diluted, then it not gonna show it full Pisces traits.
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Amoranthaniela
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posted May 06, 2022 06:17 PM
Pisces in some scenarios can be very amoral. Not necessarily immoral, just, empty of morality in general. Pisces is also about the collective unconscious, so an underdeveloped Pisces can act out the negative desires of others. With Pisces, look around and see who else could be involved and if there's anyone else that could be acting through them. IP: Logged |
rockwell
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posted May 07, 2022 11:03 AM
@Amoranthaniela: What you say is so interesting! I did know that the downside of Pisces is cruelty, but not amorality and yet what you say makes perfect sense! I remember reading that Pisces men do for example not accept legal and moral boundaries and would, sleep with any (even married) woman if they could and wanted to (and were convinced that the woman was their soulmate probably). My dad is a Pisces. He has a tendency to fall into self-pity and victimhood even when he makes his own mistakes. "In psychology there is the concept of evil humility. Good people, as Pisces often are, can't be denied anything and thus they get a lot of power. As a Pisces, you have to be careful not to subtly put pressure on others. Due to their charismatic nature, Pisces have a suggestive power to influence the other person and to bring him in a direction in which he does not want to go, even though Pisces usually always mean well with the other person. The most glaring shadow of Pisces is cruelty. When they are extremely overwhelmed, feel cornered or taken advantage of, they can really lash out. Pisces have a lot from the sea: silence, grace, but sometimes also the destructive power." IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted May 07, 2022 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
Pisces in some scenarios can be very amoral. Not necessarily immoral, just, empty of morality in general. Pisces is also about the collective unconscious, so an underdeveloped Pisces can act out the negative desires of others. With Pisces, look around and see who else could be involved and if there's anyone else that could be acting through them.
Gonna second this about Pisces! I've known many and dated many and it's taken me some years to figure out what exactly has been going on with some but now I know that they were acting out negativity RECEIVED FROM/THROUGH OTHER PEOPLE! My husband has a Pisces Venus and he does the exact same **** . Example: someone in his family can give him **** and he won't direct his disappointment towards them, oh no. It'll come out elsewhere. Or his daughter (15) can behave like a complete a-hole and he won't reprimand her but he will reprimand someone else. He'll be feeling NO remorse for this behavior. It's as if he can't go straight to the source of his anger but still needs to punish someone.. IP: Logged |
MoonMystic
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posted May 07, 2022 11:13 AM
I've known both men and women Sun Pisces. Imo the female version does and males less often do. I dated one and knew a male friend very well who had it out for his wife. I think they can be pretty honory and less regretful than other's.
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rockwell
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posted May 07, 2022 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by charlie:
Gonna second this about Pisces! I've known many and dated many and it's taken me some years to figure out what exactly has been going on with some but now I know that they were acting out negativity RECEIVED FROM/THROUGH OTHER PEOPLE! My husband has a Pisces Venus and he does the exact same **** . Example: someone in his family can give him **** and he won't direct his disappointment towards them, oh no. It'll come out elsewhere. Or his daughter (15) can behave like a complete a-hole and he won't reprimand her but he will reprimand someone else. He'll be feeling NO remorse for this behavior. It's as if he can't go straight to the source of his anger but still needs to punish someone..
Wow, just wow! In my opinion, dealing with mistakes is actually easy. You say, "I'm sorry. I've made a mistake. It won't happen again. How can I fix it?". Taking it out at another person? I mean, it isn't the other person's fault and sounds so contradictory: Pisces, who have often been victims themselves, are victimzing another person. I once tried to politely call a Pisces man's attention to his wrongdoing. He literally swam away and submerged!
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PlutoWasHere
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posted May 07, 2022 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by charlie:
Gonna second this about Pisces! I've known many and dated many and it's taken me some years to figure out what exactly has been going on with some but now I know that they were acting out negativity RECEIVED FROM/THROUGH OTHER PEOPLE! My husband has a Pisces Venus and he does the exact same **** . Example: someone in his family can give him **** and he won't direct his disappointment towards them, oh no. It'll come out elsewhere. Or his daughter (15) can behave like a complete a-hole and he won't reprimand her but he will reprimand someone else. He'll be feeling NO remorse for this behavior. It's as if he can't go straight to the source of his anger but still needs to punish someone..
This has happened in my relationship with my Pisces ex as well. There have been a couple of reorganizations at his work and he has acted out his frustration at home. I’m pretty sure the stress from his job has contributed a lot to us growing apart. There have been several confrontations that were absolute b*llsh*t but he never apologized. I know my ex had a really tough childhood with physical abuse. Maybe it’s a Pisces coping mechanism to release the tension somewhere else.
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rockwell
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posted May 07, 2022 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
I've known both men and women Sun Pisces. Imo the female version does and males less often do. I dated one and knew a make friend very well who had it out for his wife. I think they can be pretty honory and less regretful than other's.
Pisces are a mystery to me. On the one hand they absorb all the vibes and moods of those around them, but on the other hand are unable to feel remorse? IP: Logged |
rockwell
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posted May 07, 2022 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
This has happened in my relationship with my Pisces ex as well. There have been a couple of reorganizations at his work and he has acted out his frustration at home. I’m pretty sure the stress from his job has contributed a lot to us growing apart. There have been several confrontations that were absolute b*llsh*t but he never apologized. I know my ex had a really tough childhood with physical abuse. Maybe it’s a Pisces coping mechanism to release the tension somewhere else.
The question that then seriously arises for me is how do you deal with them if they don't apologize? Forgive and forget? How did your Pisces ex handle the confrontations? IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted May 07, 2022 12:14 PM
Of course, some Pisces wouldn't feel remorse. Pisces has a dark/shadow side too. Pisces symbolizes the fish. In the ocean, there are all kind of fish, including stingrays, barracudas, sea snakes, sharks, poisonous octopus, box jellyfish etc... There are sneaky and deadly predator fish in the sea. IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted May 07, 2022 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by rockwell:
Wow, just wow! In my opinion, dealing with mistakes is actually easy. You say, "I'm sorry. I've made a mistake. It won't happen again. How can I fix it?". Taking it out at another person? I mean, it isn't the other person's fault and sounds so contradictory: Pisces, who have often been victims themselves, are victimzing another person. I once tried to politely call a Pisces man's attention to his wrongdoing. He literally swam away and submerged!
Yeah..a real good example is this. His daughter is lazy as all hell and it'll go out over me. He'll tell me I never clean...leave my hair in the shower (after shampooing-daughter has brown hair and I am blonde..)..I make things up/lie etc etc etc ...and all this he'll accuse me of but I know it's her he is disappointed with. I *think* it's the rose colored glasses (Neptune) talking and they get so frustrated when people's real colors show and they can't handle it but the anger needs to come out so they direct it towards someone they don't feel as highly about. Someone already "dirty".
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PlutoWasHere
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posted May 07, 2022 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by rockwell:
The question that then seriously arises for me is how do you deal with them if they don't apologize? Forgive and forget? How did your Pisces ex handle the confrontations?
He refused to talk about it afterwards. In some occasions he just disappeared for a whole afternoon. We have kids and I tolerated it up to a point where I could no longer ignore the pain he was causing with his behavior. I suggested therapy, he refused and it ended in divorce. It kind of slowly creeps into the relationship. There are many good things to balance out the bad until it causes you to grow apart and there is no more relationship. And it left me with extremely low self value as well. I accepted it for too long because I thought it was what I deserved. I thought it was because I did something wrong. Thanks to some unresolved childhood issues that I was now repeating in my own relationship. But my eyes were opened during COVID lockdown and I realized I needed to do something about it because it wasn’t going to get any better on it’s own. IP: Logged |
rockwell
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posted May 24, 2022 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
He refused to talk about it afterwards. In some occasions he just disappeared for a whole afternoon. We have kids and I tolerated it up to a point where I could no longer ignore the pain he was causing with his behavior. I suggested therapy, he refused and it ended in divorce. It kind of slowly creeps into the relationship. There are many good things to balance out the bad until it causes you to grow apart and there is no more relationship. And it left me with extremely low self value as well. I accepted it for too long because I thought it was what I deserved. I thought it was because I did something wrong. Thanks to some unresolved childhood issues that I was now repeating in my own relationship. But my eyes were opened during COVID lockdown and I realized I needed to do something about it because it wasn’t going to get any better on it’s own.
Not getting in touch sounds so much like the Pisces man I know. There was a problem he had caused unintentionally which I solved and I asked him to call me back. The result was that he didn't reach out to me for whole week.
I understand that his silence caused you pain. There is even scientific research which proves that ignoring someone activates the same area of the brain that is activated by physical pain.
Thing with Pisces is that you never really know who which fish you got. They are very charming, kind and sweet. What I found out late is that their charm doesn't necessarily mean anything, but actions matter for Pisces more than for any other zodiac sign because they really tell you what kind of Pisces you're dealing with and how serious they are. It sounds contradictory, but I think their kindness and good-nature actually gives them a lot of power over other people. You can't refuse anything to good people, right? They are also masters at wielding subtle power over others and definitely have suggestive power to influence others and to take them in a certain direction. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2
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posted May 24, 2022 11:22 PM
The whole chart always needs to be considered--especially the Planetary strengths verse the Planets that are latent, unconscious, and/or undeveloped. The Signs say very little, by themselves and overall, about the maturity or lack of the consciousness. Someone with strong Pisces is not an older soul by default than someone with strong Aries for example. Boy how I wish it was that simple and black and white, but it is not--not by a long shot. What can give you some sense of that, independent of freewill factors, are the strongest Planets vs the least highlighted. If that person with strong Pisces has very strong Saturn, Mars, Pluto, Moon, and/or Mercury (all related primarily to the first 3, slower vibratory Chakras), but has very weak Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, Sun, and/or Arcturus--chances will be much higher of them being and acting a lot more like a "young/immature" Soul (which often means, less affective empathy, less conscience, less attunement to spiritual-universal Love, less self-other responsiblity, etc). Conversely if Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, Sun, and/or Arcturus are the most highlighted, and the other list is not so strong or only moderate, then much higher chance of them being and acting a lot more like a "middle aged" to "older" Soul. Now a person with the mid to fast vibratory Planets most highlighted, along with the Universal Signs most highlighted simultaneously, have an even higher probability of being and acting like an older soul, or at least a middle aged type soul. Most Souls on the earth currently, are somewhere between the young and middle aged level category. Older souls, and very old souls are the rarest. There are more and more souls coming into this earth and system from other, more expanded systems. So the ratio of middle aged and older Souls to young/immature Souls IS increasing. But all in all, still a minority. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere
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posted May 25, 2022 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
The whole chart always needs to be considered--especially the Planetary strengths verse the Planets that are latent, unconscious, and/or undeveloped. The Signs say very little, by themselves and overall, about the maturity or lack of the consciousness. Someone with strong Pisces is not an older soul by default than someone with strong Aries for example. Boy how I wish it was that simple and black and white, but it is not--not by a long shot...
I agree there should be more in a chart than just a Pisces Sun to support this behaviour. My ex also has his Cancer Moon in 12th House, his Pisces Sun opposite Virgo Pluto and his Pisces Mercury conjunct Sun. In synastry my Cancer Mars/Saturn conjunct his Moon, my Libra Pluto opposite his Aries Venus and my Gemini Mercury opposite his Sagittarius Neptune. It was easy for him to feel challenged by me, communication between us wasn't easy and his personality makes it difficult for him to be in touch with his emotions and be open about them. It's a theme in both his natal chart and our synastry. That being said, withdrawing and becoming emotional unavailable is a typical Pisces trait. So if someone has Pisces Sun, Mercury, H12 Moon in combination with harsh Neptune in synastry there is a high probability of these traits showing up.
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Astrogirlie
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posted May 25, 2022 05:38 PM
Pisces Sun, Taurs Moon, Scorpio Rising. I feel no remorse for something I knew I was doing. Im very vengeful, But Iam also the kindest person you will ever meet if you dont mess with me or anyone i love!IP: Logged |
AmelieRose81
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posted May 27, 2022 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by rockwell:
Let's assume that the Pisces is the one who caused pain to his loved ones by his actions (or inactions). How would they react? Self-pity? Silence? Displacement? Withdrawal?
Mine acted with self pity, silence and withdrawal. He made himself the victim when I caught him cheating. He was sorry he got caught, not sorry for what he did. Remorseless selfish pig he was. Glad I dumped him
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kani
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posted May 28, 2022 10:21 AM
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Mine acted with self pity, silence and withdrawal. He made himself the victim when I caught him cheating. He was sorry he got caught, not sorry for what he did. Remorseless selfish pig he was.Glad I dumped him
Yeah those types of people are the worst. I so detest when someone can't take accountability for their own actions. IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa
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posted May 28, 2022 10:34 AM
Yes, we do. Probably the most in comparation to other signs.And that's because we don't like to be hurt and we live with the thought that everyone's good inside and we only see the good. If we see that we hurt someone, we feel remorse. Of course, it's done by mistake even though I've seen some Pisces females that hurt intentionaly, they are pretty evil. Unfortunately, not everyone will use the gift of this sign for good and some can be selfish. And mostly can be seen in the chart if it's like that. Because Mercury and Venus move along with the Sun there can be 3 types of Pisces.
- Mercury and/or Venus in Aquarius
- Mercury and/or Venus in Pisces
- Mercury and/or Venus in Aries Some rare cases are with Capricorn and Taurus (I have taurus venus first degree). Judging by this, the girls I've seen being evil were those with Aries/Aquarius Venus. They are intuitive, but they used their intuition for their benefit. Having a fall mercury in Pisces with these placements do not help at all. Pisces and Taurus/Capricorn Venus can be more chill , romantic, respectful, in their ways of expressing. Because Pisces is ruled by Jupiter, if Jupiter is placed in Capricorn, or Virgo, there is a disconnection to that energy of Pisces and they could be selfish or having a disturbed view of the world. A square or conjunction from Saturn/Mars can alter the expression of this Sun to a bad expression. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2
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posted May 30, 2022 02:51 PM
It is less about other Signs and more about Planetary strengths. For some very basic examples. A Pisces Sun with Saturn or Mars conjunct their Asc, in the 1st House, or closest Planets to the Asc, will tend to be VERY different than a Pisces Sun with say Venus, Jupiter, Neptune, or Sun in a similar condition as the former. In the latter, you will tend to see a more "stereotypical" kind of Pisces--the ones we read about in over populated, mainstream Sun sign books. The former type of Pisces can be very slow vibratory and selfish--nothing at all like what Pisces is "supposed" to be like as described in the Sun Sign astrology books. I've found as a Cap Sun that I am more truly Piscean like than many Pisces Suns etc that I have met. This is indicated by a combo of factors. Combo of very highlighted Jupiter, a quite strong Neptune, and Angular Pisces South Node (in 7th). Both the chart ruler and the ruler of my Sun and Mercury Sign, are in a major aspect to Neptune, and my chart ruler in a major aspect to Jupiter, which is in my 1st and closest Planet to my Asc (for some examples). Cue Rob Zombie with a twist. "More Pisces than a Pisces, more Pisces than a Pisces.."
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Eternal Energy
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posted May 30, 2022 04:10 PM
Even without all these aspects, you are already inextricably bound up with Pisces, beautiful Antelopes of the Sea... Those eyes, that know who you really are, can see you coming up from the very depths of waters strong and powerful to lead humanity to the heights of spiritual consciousness. You are the perfect merging of mind and soul. Goat head and fish tail.IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2
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posted May 30, 2022 04:57 PM
Hi there Eternal.. Hmm, Sea Antelope, kind of like that. Next time I go to a party, I will burst through the door and say, "I am Sea Antelope, hear me 'Mmmmmehhhh...gurgle gurgle gurgle'!" (cause I might be underwater yah know) May get some weird looks though. More seriously, thank you for seeing the deeper level of this odd self. IP: Logged | |
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