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married11years
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posted May 09, 2022 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for married11years     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since we talking about astrology, there has to be an explanation astrology wise for everything right? So can anyone explain this woman chart for me. She is someone very famous in my country, a singer public figure, and wife of a BILLIONAIR, her husband is an billionair in U.S. dollars.

Her birthday and time is correct, she has a huge fanclub in her country where she told them her birthday and every year her fan club celebrate her birthday for her and she even there too with her fans thanks them for their support. She also does alot of charity work for her home country (it her Pisces sign on her 10th house).

Here is her birthchart, lay out her planets and houses, link: https://allfamous.org/da/astrology/ha-phuong-19720331.html

But her 1st house Empty, 2nd house Empty, 3rd house too completely empty. And I was told that you need planets in your 1st house as the house of self. 2nd house as the house of material, in order to become rich or successful. But this woman has everything from frame to billionaire husband (despite 1st, 2nd house empty).
Sure she has Sun in 10th, but because she a daytime chart, her Sun is high up in the sky, not everyone Sun in 10th is wife of billionaire.

Maybe her Venus in 11th? (but that placement still not enough to be the reason of get you a billionaire husband). I was told that you need planets in your 1st or 2nd or else you won't be successful (but then I don't think Obama and Biden has anything in their 1st through 3rd house neither).

Anyways, she has Cancer Ascendant, so it not like her houses signs ruler are that great. 7th house in Capricorn. 4th house IC in Virgo, 10th house MC in Pisces (which drastically different from someone who has 10th house Aries MC like Angelina Jolie whom also Cancer Ascendant).

Seem like a normal birth chart to me (nothing really stood out), but wife a USD billionaire and an public figure, so there has to be something in her chart.

Anyone want to challenge themselves and dap into this and figure it out?

Thanks.

Her chart below, the link above is better where you see the aspects listed.

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posted May 09, 2022 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for married11years     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
eta, sorry double post, accindently click send 2 times.

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posted May 10, 2022 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun in the 10 for public figure?

Jupiter in 7th for luck in marriage?

that mars satrun cnjct seems strong too

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posted May 10, 2022 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jupiter is considered to be lucky and prosperous, and it’s sq. her Sun and on DC. it’s in fall in Capricorn. What proves that a placement isn’t a deal breaker. And DC ruler cj. Mars might have say.

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posted May 10, 2022 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for married11years     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My husband have Jupiter in Capricorn 2 degree away from his 7th house. Placidus put his Capricorn Jupiter in 6th, Whole house shift it straight to his 7th where his DC is, and he has Cancer Ascendant like her (so same DC).

And No, he didn't married a billionaire, he married a girl with a High School diploma only, work a minimum wage job before marriage, so he decided she should just stay home and be a housewife since he make enough to support her anyways, lol.

I have Sun in my 10th house (I have a pack Stellium in my 10th including Sun and Venus), I loathe public figure or frame (loathe grand gesture and hate to be in center of attention), I don't even care money.
I just want a normal life in the countryside in China my homeland (that if my non-Chinese husband would leave the U.S. to go with me to China).

Mars conjunct Saturn (I have Mars Saturn conjunction at 2 degree orb). Both me and my husband have Mars conjunction Saturn just like her, in different houses.

Her chart actually look normal to me, as compared to my Scorpio Stellium friend whom is a surgeon (who has one hell of a chart).

eta: Thanks for explain to me about the DC rule by Saturn conjunct Mars, but my husband has it too.

Astrology sure can be very accurate for some, but for some it not.

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posted May 10, 2022 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capricorn DC ruler is Saturn.

One Jupiter Capricorn in 7th might be not enough. You need to put all together. One placement and aspect description often wouldn’t make it. However, what you call luck might mean different for people. Not everybody find it in financial values.

Capricorn is somebody who prefers traditional values. It makes a sense with your stories as women with this placement would want a man to take care of things. A man with Capricorn DC wouldn’t mind to play a traditional role of a provider himself.


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posted May 10, 2022 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for married11years     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And if DC ruler conjunct Mars, as in her DC in Capricorn rule by Saturn and Saturn conjunct her Mars? Well, my husband has same Ascendant her, so his DC in Capricorn too and it rule by Saturn and Saturn conjunct his Mars too.

My husband is Cancer Asc like her, the difference is his IC in Taurus and MC in Aries (he has 10th house midheaven in Aries rule by Mars) that explain his Hydrofluoric Acid dangerous job.

While her is IC in Virgo and MC 10th in Pisces, that explain why she often fly back to her country to do charity work, Pisces MC she has rule by Neptune work/service.

eta: I see, thanks for explain to me sis Libra. Make sense.

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posted May 10, 2022 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for married11years     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by married11years:

My husband is Cancer Asc like her, the difference is his IC in Taurus and MC in Aries (he has 10th house midheaven in Aries rule by Mars) that explain his Hydrofluoric Acid dangerous job.

While her is IC in Virgo and MC 10th in Pisces, that explain why she often fly back to her country to do charity work, Pisces MC she has rule by Neptune work/service.



Well at least the IC and MC part of her,
and the IC and MC of my husband is accurate.

I was told IC and MC is very sensitive calculate by your birth time and birth place, longitude and latitude.
2 people can have Cancer Asc might not have the same IC and MC.

My husband Midheaven in Aries. Her Midheaven in Pisces.

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posted May 10, 2022 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for married11years     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I think I know why my pack 10th house Stellium don't work. Because my Pisces Moon traits cloud all of it, Pisces Moon touch ALL of my personal planets, Pisces on my 7th marriage house cusp and my 8th. Pisces Moon on my DC too.

My Venus is Out of Bound when I born, OOB Venus will do what it heart want to do with no hesitation, love who the f-ck they want to love. Has no boundaries that why it call Out of bound, lol. I do like unusual/eccentric man, and my husband is one.

My Mercury Stellium has been color by my Pisces Neptunian Moon, and it not even funny, I hate it.

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posted May 10, 2022 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never heard of her but she's very pretty! And a fellow Aries Sun/Taurus Venus like me. ❤

I'm guessing her having planets in the 10th & 11th Houses have contributed to her fortune. There are plenty of people with Jupiter in the 2nd who are NOT rich.

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posted May 10, 2022 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A couple points:

Never assume a chart is completely or even reasonably accurate unless you have good reason to.

Another: It's not directly her money--she didn't earn it. Hence 2nd House is not all that related.

You need to look at her 8th House of shared/collective resources and resources/monies by marriage.

Capricorn on the 8th, with Saturn in early Gemini cusping Taurus very closely conjunct early Gem Mars and both widely conjunct late Taurus Venus.

Taurus Venus is very "abundant" and attracting materially. Capricorn and Mars combo indicates that the partner is a "go getter" type and highly motivated/energetic in the area of finances. Put them all together, and potentially unusual wealth can be the result. These are also trine Pluto. Pluto has some connection with extreme wealth and with the term "plutocracy" and "plutocrat". (Often less for the positive).

Also, she has Cap Jupiter in the 7th, which indicates potential "luck", material abundance, etc via closer relationships and/or a partner. Jupitarians can go one of two ways. They either focus on becoming spiritually wealthy (i.e. building up good karma, positive service to others), or they become more material focused and attract material wealth (some do both). Edgar Cayce linked strong Jupiter to dealing with the masses and large amounts and groups of people, and being influential among them. Cap has some connection to that pattern/archetype as well, being a universal Sign.

Also, is this one of those automatic noon/12:00 charts? If so, we don't know her actual correct Asc sign. And if that is the case, throw all the above out.

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posted May 11, 2022 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GCE, look who got brought by retrogrades!
Thanks for noticing the houses are probably being invalid there.

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posted May 11, 2022 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, the retrograde cat dragged in a Leo Rising (the p*ssy was in heat and well, the Lion had to follow)...

Hope you are and have been well Librapurr.

(I'm at a lull in my project because of some unforeseen issues and am waiting on supplies to be shipped.)

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posted May 11, 2022 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a few questions.

Did she marry the man AFTER he was a billionaire? Is this her 1st husband? Or does she have a history of dating similar types?

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posted May 11, 2022 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for married11years     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both Obama and Biden have EMPTY 1st, 2nd and 3rd house. Are you saying their birth time is wrong too? Obama and Biden are the president of the United States, who say they not successful? And both have EMPTY 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
Yeah, I notice Obama have Chiron wound in 1st house, but sorry, that not a planet.
Obama and Biden have EMTPY 2nd material house, are you saying it not their money?

I can go down the list of political figures who has EMPTY 1st, 2nd and 3rd house. And they still successful and influential people.
Same with celebrities, TONS of celebrities have empty 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
But they will have Sun in 10th house.

To Aries23Degrees, it is her 1st husband, he was already a Billionaire when she married him (Wall Street stock market Billionaire too, living right in New York City), he a Taurus. As for her time of birth I have to go to her fan club and confirm, she has a big fan club in her country and when the celebrate her birthday together with the fans, I'm sure her manager would know her birth time or could ask. I speak her language (along with Chinese too), so I can go to her fan club and ask her birth time. I bet the fans of her who astrology fanatic probably already have a chart up for their idol, lol.

But thank you for the help though, appreciated.


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posted May 11, 2022 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It doesn't matter if a person's 2nd House etc is empty or the like, if there are other factors going on.

Say a person has Taurus or Libra on the 2nd House cusp, and say that person's Venus is in the 10th and conjunct Jupiter and trine Pluto--chances are that materially speaking, they may be inclined to become well off even though their 2nd House is "empty".

General success btw, is more linked to a combination of Solar and 10th House matters. Of course, beneficial 1st and 2nd House conditions can only help out.

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posted May 11, 2022 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for married11years     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
There are plenty of people with Jupiter in the 2nd who are NOT rich.

I agreed. My husband have Jupiter in 7th house, and he the breadwinner and house husband at once. I'm a housewife live off his money and 100% financially depend on him. And HE the one that wants me to stay home.
So who say Jupiter in 7th people are lucky in marriage? Obviously not my husband. And he has Capricorn Jupiter right on his Capricorn Descendant.

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posted May 11, 2022 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for married11years     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrology is not always right, I use my own chart as an example. Yes, I know my birth time, unless my birth certificate wrote it wrong.

Just like both Obama and Biden has EMPTY 1st and 2nd material house, yet those money are theirs. And Obama have EMPTY 10th house. Obama have empty planet in 1s, 2nd, 3rd, and 10th.
Biden has his Sun in 12th house.
And they are powerful political figures. You can go verify their chart, astrology sites claim their birth time is accurate due to president show their birth certificate.

And astrology doesn't ring true for my chart. I have Sun in my 10th house (I have a pack Stellium in my 10th including Sun and Venus), I loathe public figure or frame (loathe grand gesture and hate to be in center of attention), I don't even care money.
I just want a normal life in the countryside in China my homeland (that if my non-Chinese husband would leave the U.S. to go with me to China).

I'm a housewife, live off my husband money for the past 11 years, never have to work a day since married him, I live off his money 100% financially depend on him, as I have ZERO income.

Here is my birth chart: https://i.postimg.cc/4XxXP8GX/My-Chart-June19.jpg

The irony is, astrology can be so true for one person, but not true for another.

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posted May 11, 2022 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are two main factors to consider in the accuracy or the lack thereof in astrology. The factor of freewill, and that many charts out there are not that accurate.

One of the most well studied and verified psychic sources in the world to date--the Edgar Cayce work--well his guidance talked multiple times about how the Soul does not always complete the connection to the body right at first breath (it can and sometimes does, but not always by a long shot).

And furthermore, it is that moment of Soul energetic, more complete connection to the body, that is the true/accurate time for the chart.

I'll give an example. The physical birth time of my partner of 21 years, gives the Ascendant of mid Aquarius. But because of her looks, her personality, her closest relationships, etc, I knew that her true birth time (when her Soul completed the energetic connections to her body) actually is an hour and more before her physical birth time, giving her a Capricorn Rising.

Many years later after this assumption, and me working with her chart having a Capricorn Rising--she had a dream wherein her guidance told her her specific true birth time, and it was actually a bit earlier than I had assumed originally. I had been working with a 26 to 27* Cap Rising and her dream time gave like a 22 or so degree Cap Rising.

As to examples of how I knew she had Capricorn Asc and not Aquarius: If she has Aquarius Asc, she has nothing at all in Capricorn or Cancer, and yet, her first major boyfriend/committed relationship before me, was with a Cancer Sun who has Saturn in his first house. Her best friend of many years has Capricorn Sun, and I, her twin soul and partner of two decades plus has Capricorn Sun and Mercury--Capricorn is my strongest Sign.

She is darker complected than the archetypal Aquarius Rising. Her hair is between a light and medium brown, but closer to the medium, she has brown eyes, and she can tan fairly well (much better than me)--her skin type is somewhere between a 2 and 3, but definitely closer to the 3. And she has a somewhat Hebraic type nose, which is common among Capricorn Asc (the Rising Signs with the most prominent noses tend to be Aries, Scorpio, and Capricorn).

Her personality is more "go getting", more resourceful, more initially introverted/cautious, more materially focused and business minded than an Aquarius Asc, but because she has Aqua Sun, Venus, and South Node, and Pisces Mercury and Mars, and chart ruler is very closely conjunct Jupiter, she does have a very strong spiritual and psychic side as well. But she is too grounded to not have a Capricorn Rising, because literally there is no Earth Signs in her chart otherwise.

She is more grounded and material minded than me, who is a Capricorn Sun and Mercury.

Yes, unfortunately, astrology is more complex and more uncertain than many allow for and/or perceive.

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posted May 11, 2022 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by married11years:
I agreed. My husband have Jupiter in 7th house, and he the breadwinner and house husband at once. I'm a housewife live off his money and 100% financially depend on him. And HE the one that wants me to stay home.

If you're traditional, this is good stuff. 👍🏾 Congrats!

Your loving, joyful, feminine energy is the gift you're giving in exchange for his provision.

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posted May 11, 2022 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you want to learn more about and understand better the Edgar Cayce work, I highly suggest Sidney Kirkpatrick's biography on Cayce called "Edgar Cayce: An American Prophet". He did not give Cayce the title of prophet lightly.

And interestingly, Sidney is on record as saying that before he researched Cayce's life, he was a staunch skeptic of ALL things spiritual, psychic, religious, and nonphysical oriented. He thought that people who believed in that stuff (like astrology) were either gullible/naive/deluded, con artists, or the like. His mind and focus was firmly planted in the Earth, and the Earth only.

During his research of Cayce's life and work, he ended up having a major belief system crash.

There are many biographical works out there about Cayce, but Sidney's is considered the best written and most well and thoroughly researched (the Cayce family gave him more access to more private letters, files, and info than they had ever given another biographer). Before he had written the book, he had considerable reputation based on his prior works: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_D._Kirkpatrick

One of the most fascinating aspects of the Cayce work in relation to astrology is that Cayce's guidance said that the Planets represent/symbolize the nonphysical dimensions of this system that our Souls spend time in in between physical lives. Or in other words, the physical Earth is just one dimension of many (the 3rd), out of a system that contains 8 major dimensions.

It is not that our Souls literally and physically go to a Planet when our bodies die, but that there is a Jungian synchronicity connection between the physical Planets, and these other major states and levels of consciousness, and that the physical Planets symbolically represent those other levels.

And figuring out "where" a Soul came into this dimension from, can really tell you alot about who and how that person will be on a deeper character level. Each dimension is either faster vibratory or slower vibratory than the other i.e. either closer to spiritual , God like Love or farther away.

This also relates to the Chakra system of the Hindus, as the 7 main Centers have a direct connection to the 7 main dimensions of the 8 dimensional system. (The 8th dimension is more of a doorway or portal into greater and more expanded systems than this one, and that 8th dimension is correlated to/symbolized by the Stars Arcturus or Polaris most often).

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posted May 11, 2022 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for married11years     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you GalatciCore, will definately look into that, thanks for the recommendation. I'm new to astrology so I have ALOT to learn from you and everybody else too.
It just I notice how astrology is like super accurate in some chart, and to some it not. It just weird.

And thanks GalaciCore for share your story about you and your partner chart. It helps me understand more about the complex of astrology.

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posted May 11, 2022 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
Yeah, the retrograde cat dragged in a Leo Rising (the p*ssy was in heat and well, the Lion had to follow)...

Hope you are and have been well Librapurr.

(I'm at a lull in my project because of some unforeseen issues and am waiting on supplies to be shipped.)


I hope you’re also doing good and not using your supplies for what’s your nickname lol

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posted May 12, 2022 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
I hope you’re also doing good and not using your supplies for what’s your nickname lol

Blowing up the core of Galaxies? That's a "little" above my pay grade at the moment as a human and all. Back in my ET days, I'd be like, "ain't no thang, bisnatches", but I would also say then (and now), "make love, not war, baby".

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posted May 12, 2022 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome Married11Years.

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