posted May 11, 2022 09:26 PM            

Both my parents are deceased a long time ago. If it weren't for my husband care for me around the clock when I had my stroke the bedridden me didn't know what to do.

When I had my stroke last year, I was bedridden for 3 weeks with high flow oxygen in my nose due to lack oxygen flow to my brain. My husband he spent day and night by my bedside took care of me, and the completely bedridden me defecated on myself it was him that wipes and clean my poop and pee in that whole 3 weeks. Trust me, adults feces are nothing like babies, it worst.

He sure didn't have to do any of the above, even the doctor offered him in-home helper for my bedridden defecation, but my husband refused the doctor offer. He said I'm his "wife", and he wants to be the one that does it, and care for me.

Beside care for the defecated bedridden me, with a pillow and blanket he slept on the carpet right next to my hospital bed. The hospital bed was put in our bedroom, he could have sleep in our comfy bed, but he chose to sleep on the carpet floor right next where my hospital bed.

And the whole 3 weeks through my illness (he took off work) was he day and night, spoon feed me, wipe and clean my feces and urine, vomit, clean my body, he did it all.

There times when he hugged me in his arms and had my head lean on his chest, and he was sobbing alot, he said: I'm really afraid (I guess afraid to lose me). I told him there nothing to be afraid of, we all have to die one day.

I recovered, thank you to my husband care for me, I don't know what the bedridden me would do if it weren't he care for me.

Background: Hemorrhage Strokes run in my maternal side of family. Massive bleeding in the brain, killed both my maternal grandma and my mother, I lost my mother very suddenly from hemorrhage stroke . Heart disease run in my paternal side, my dad also passed away.

I thought I could escape my fate, but guess not. Last year (at age 36) I had an ischemic stroke. I recovered, eat drive live normal like before. But due lack of oxygen flow to my brain it caused an area of the white tissue of my brain died. Since then I had episodes of severe painful headache when it flare up. And I have episodes of where my whole body shake uncontrollably like a leaf when it flares up, like I was in Antarctica cold.

Just wondering about my husband chart that all. He has both his Neptune and Jupiter in falling, in the sign of Capricorn. A falling planets don't work in their full nature because Capricorn (Saturn rule) will modify and it has to bend to the sign of Capricorn traits which rule by the restricted sadist Saturn. His marriage 7th house cusp is in the sign of Capricorn. Placidus put both his Neptune and Jupiter in 6th house, but Whole sign shift his Jupiter straight to 7th house (as his Jup only 2 degrees from house 7th).

posted May 12, 2022 06:42 PM            

So his Mars Venus their midpoint is 9 degrees Capricorn exactly where his Jupiter is! So his Jupiter has qualities of both Mars and Venus.

posted May 12, 2022 10:14 PM            

My husband has his Neptune in Capricorn sign in 6th, Placidus put his Capricorn sign Jupiter in 6th too. But since his Jupiter is 2 degree where the line is between 6th and 7th, so Whole Sign shift his Jup straight to 7th.

I don't know which house system make more sense, Jupiter is a lucky planet, he suppose to be lucky in his marriage, not like this. But then his Jupiter is in the sign of Capricorn Saturn rule, so that make him work even harder , Saturn will make sure you put in work in anything he touches on (a falling Neptune and Jupiter in Cappi is in his rule). A Jupiter has no choice but bend to Saturn traits.

Anyone one else know anyone in their chart where they have to selflessly care for their wife or spouse, what are their planets and aspects of Neptune?

posted May 15, 2022 01:11 AM            

Btw, you make too much of Jupiter being in fall in Capricorn and all that. Yes, that is technically true, but tbh, I see exaltations and falls as a bit overblown/exaggerated.

What seems more affecting are planets in the Signs they rule or conversely in the Signs opposite the ones they rule.

And even then, they can be counter balanced by other factors. For example, I know of someone with Venus in Pisces, but it is moderately closely conjunct Saturn. She doesn't consistently express the best of Venus or Pisces. That intense Saturn oriented fear, ego, and/or materialism shades in a lot.

Or, the other way. I happen to have Jupiter in Virgo. While I'll agree that Jupiter is not particularly "comfortable" in Virgo, there are other factors which counter balance/offset this. For example, Jupiter is in my 1st House and closest Planet to my Asc--this boosts its strength A LOT irregardless of Signs.

It (Jupiter) is conjunct the co-ruler of the IC (Scorpio) and ruler of the 9th (Aries on 9th), Mars, and trine the Sun--the chart ruler, and very closely trine the ruler of its own Sign placement--Mercury.

The deeper truth being that Jupiter is so strong in my nature, that it is actually helpful for me and this particular case, for it to be in Virgo--otherwise I would be "too Jupiter" for my "own good". Virgo adds the necessary groundedness, attention to detail, practicality, etc that Jupiter by nature lacks.

It actually indicates a greater, holistic balance because my Jupiter is so strong otherwise.

I came in to integrate more Virgo like traits and tendencies. This is indicated in different ways, but one of the main ones is that I have angular Pisces South Node, and angular Virgo North Node.

Or for another example of being over tipped to the Jupiter, Neptune, and/or Piscean side of things. My Moon rules my 12th, and is conjunct the ruler of my Sun and Mercury. Thankgoodness the Sign it rules is an earth sign--because without all that earth, I would not be tethered to the earth at all. I'd be a formless blob of complete lack of discernment, logic, discrimination, etc. Thank goodness for the Virgo, Capricorn, and Mercury which counter balances all that Jupiter, Neptune, Pisces, 12th, etc. I need and benefit from it.

posted May 15, 2022 01:26 AM            

The thing is this, he has Pisces Sun, rule by Neptune and Jupiter. BOTH his Jupiter and Neptune being taking over by Saturn rule Capricorn sign. I was told it actually a good thing, as Capricorn (sadist Saturn rule) will knock his Neptune out out it dreamy state, so it actually is a good thing for Pisces Sun, help them think logically.
His Jupiter is also in it fall, the thing is Capricorn will restrict Jupiter expansion.

I mean I'm glad his Neptune is weak in his chart, barely has any aspects, and it in the sign of sadist Saturn sign Capricorn. Who would want too much Neptune in their chart? I don't even like Neptune (my most hated planet in astrology).

His 7th house is on Capricorn sign, due to he a Cancer Ascendant. And if use Whole house sign both his Neptune and Jupiter fall in his 7th.
If use Placidus, his Neptune go to his 6th house.
So I don't know if Whole Sign is more accurate of Placidus. Which system you prefer?

He is Cancer Rising so obviously it VERY hard for him to lose his loved ones, like the death of his older sister, the death of his father, and yeah, who knows it might be me next, if my stroke hit like how it killed my maternal grandma and my mom.

Here what weird. 12th house is the house that we canīt see, it like our back. And the house of self-undoing. Right?

His Ascendant is rule by the Moon. But his Moon is lock up behind bars in 12th house jail, and his Moon conjunct his North Node, both in 12th house jail together, gterat isn't it?
Since it both lock up there (especially his Moon), canīt think clearly and it the house of self-undoing, therefore can lead to self-harm and self destruction.

How would you interpret on 12th house Moon conjunct North Node in there? Like what does it means?

posted May 15, 2022 11:59 AM            

I do kind of make an exception though. Because the Asc and 1st House is such an important and sensitive area in the chart, I tend to automatically give it a full 30 degrees, not including having a conjunction from the 12th area (which automatically makes a planet act/be more like a First House one than a 12th, especially if it is closely conjunct the Asc).

Occasionally you'll see charts with a very short/narrow 1st House.

Re: your husband's chart--for me, it doesn't make sense to discuss individual parts, because I read whole charts more so. Knowing a few placements doesn't tell me or anyone too much without the full chart.

But remember what I told you before-- I don't think physical birth time (even if it is very accurate) is always the most accurate chart. So Whole Sign, Placidius, etc aside, he could still have Neptune in 6th or 7th depending on what his true spiritual birth time is. And that often takes a lot of research and work to figure out, unless one gets a guidance message about it.

Btw, personally speaking, I think Neptune is one of the most beautiful and necessary energies/archetypes. It is the most mystical and represents the feeling perception of being more one with the Whole and with Source/The Creator. That is its highest manifestation and expression, and is a very beautiful and necessary one especially in this overly materialistic world.

Of course it has a potential dark side, just like all the symbols do.