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Topic: Why are Neptunians so scandalous like Amber heard?
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SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted July 21, 2022 03:25 PM
Why is this Planet linked to scandals? Amber heard was exposed for being deeply deceptive and abusive. Hard aspects from Neptune to her moon, mercury and mars. Charles and Camilla was exposed for their inappropiate relationship. Both of them have hard aspects from Nep on mc and Venus. Camilla also have her Neptune in a hard aspect to her Moon and she has a 12th house stellium.
I have seen more examples but too lazy. I think i read once Neptune is the Planet of Scandals but i don’t remember why it is and can’t seem to find that article again it was years ago i read it. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1831 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted July 21, 2022 04:21 PM
I don’t think Camilla is scandalous. She was a victim of circumstances who quietly endured a mistress role and much hate because she was told she wasn’t good enough to marry a prince. AH is probably Plutonian (her AC is unknown) and has much Mars making t-square to Moon and Aries Mercury. IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted July 21, 2022 05:16 PM
@ Librapurr I didn’t know Camilla was told that. Was she told that by his family? I saw a documentary of Charles and heard about their relationship and i think they said they met at a young age and got involved but then it didn’t work out because Charles had to leave to another Country or something so it ended and by the time he got back and wanted to reconnect she had married someone else and then he was pressured to find a wife and eventually went on to marry Diana and this is why they couldn’t be together. They reconnected again while married to other people and then they started their affair. Charles always wanted Camilla he never fell out of love with her and she was the one he had planned to marry but he couldn’t have her because she was married and starting a family. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 22873 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 21, 2022 05:30 PM
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Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1831 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted July 21, 2022 08:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by SleepyDiary: @ Librapurr I didn’t know Camilla was told that. Was she told that by his family? I saw a documentary of Charles and heard about their relationship and i think they said they met at a young age and got involved but then it didn’t work out because Charles had to leave to another Country or something so it ended and by the time he got back and wanted to reconnect she had married someone else and then he was pressured to find a wife and eventually went on to marry Diana and this is why they couldn’t be together. They reconnected again while married to other people and then they started their affair. Charles always wanted Camilla he never fell out of love with her and she was the one he had planned to marry but he couldn’t have her because she was married and starting a family.
The most documentaries focus on idolizing Diana and don’t tell Camila’s story making her a side chick. Camila wasn’t noble enough for the Royal family. And there’s a rumor that Charles’s trip and her engagement were staged to separate them. As I understood, Camila didn’t have any title and her reputation wasn’t that good. Diana came from more aristocratic background so she was chosen by the family. Here is a brief article about it. http://www.rd.com/article/why-charles-didnt-marry-camilla-first/ IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 7511 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted July 21, 2022 09:24 PM
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SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted July 22, 2022 04:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: The most documentaries focus on idolizing Diana and don’t tell Camila’s story making her a side chick. Camila wasn’t noble enough for the Royal family. And there’s a rumor that Charles’s trip and her engagement were staged to separate them. As I understood, Camila didn’t have any title and her reputation wasn’t that good. Diana came from more aristocratic background so she was chosen by the family. Here is a brief article about it. http://www.rd.com/article/why-charles-didnt-marry-camilla-first/
I agree they have idolized her a lot in this situation. I admit i thought that too for a long time until i became older and started to actually look into it myself. It was obvious from the get go that it wasn’t love in their marriage, i don’t even think she was in love and she also knew he wasn’t. I think she tried to make it work because of their sons and Charles came from a powerful family. But look at some of the men she dated after him i don’t even think Charles really was her type. IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted July 22, 2022 04:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: Dr. Phil is Neptunian and Saturnian
Haha maybe Mr Saturn is keeping him in check 😅 IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted July 22, 2022 04:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: Why is Johnny Depp?
I know we have different opinions on these two. You think she was the victim and i think she was the abuser.
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Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1831 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted July 22, 2022 11:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by SleepyDiary: But look at some of the men she dated after him i don’t even think Charles really was her type.
She has Aqua moon and much Uranus so that is not surprising. I agree I don’t think love was a reason for their marriage.She also might be scandalous in the history if there was not that tragedy. She has Mars on nodes making many strong aspects. No wonder I saw her as Aries. Now I’m thinking whether her leaving the Royals is much different from Meghan M. MM is Libra moon and Cancer Mars so she didn’t leave alone, but took a company/ family with her. Diana left alone as Aqua moon with bunch of Uranus. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 7511 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted July 22, 2022 12:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by SleepyDiary: Haha maybe Mr Saturn is keeping him in check 😅
I think his controversy is that he is not a real doctor. And while his show is classier than Jerry Springer, Maury, and Montel....in this day and age people critique him and say that he is not actually helping people the way a therapist would, for people who clearly need it. With that being said, his show is a guilty pleasure of mine. IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted July 22, 2022 12:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: I think his controversy is that he is not a real doctor. And while his show is classier than Jerry Springer, Maury, and Montel....in this day and age people critique him and say that he is not actually helping people the way a therapist would, for people who clearly need it. With that being said, his show is a guilty pleasure of mine.
Haha he used to be a guilty pleasure of mine too until i realised it was obvious he knew what the lie detector would show beforehand and who to side with and who he should go hard on which started to put me off. I also saw that he is not so strong in Water which can give a natural way of having a deep understanding of a person or a situation and i found his ways very much by the ‘’book’’ which put me off even more. IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted July 22, 2022 01:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: She has Aqua moon and much Uranus so that is not surprising. I agree I don’t think love was a reason for their marriage. She also might be scandalous in the history if there was not that tragedy. She has Mars on nodes making many strong aspects. No wonder I saw her as Aries. Now I’m thinking whether her leaving the Royals is much different from Meghan M. MM is Libra moon and Cancer Mars so she didn’t leave alone, but took a company/ family with her. Diana left alone as Aqua moon with bunch of Uranus.
I think they were headed towards a divorce anyways and he wasn’t in love with her and the boys had become older so there wasn’t much more she could do then to leave alone. She also had her Neptune in the 10th house and the secrets of her marriage was scandalous and became public and some of the outfits she wore was also seen as inappropiate for someone in the Royal family to wear. She was also highly idealised by the public. Harry is in love with Meghan and Meghan wasn’t happy in britain so i feel it was easy for her to bring him along.
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Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1831 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted July 23, 2022 12:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by SleepyDiary: I think they were headed towards a divorce anyways and he wasn’t in love with her and the boys had become older so there wasn’t much more she could do then to leave alone. She also had her Neptune in the 10th house and the secrets of her marriage was scandalous and became public and some of the outfits she wore was also seen as inappropiate for someone in the Royal family to wear. She was also highly idealised by the public. Harry is in love with Meghan and Meghan wasn’t happy in britain so i feel it was easy for her to bring him along.
I think many things in Diana situation weren’t a matter of personal choice, but the energies, Karma played out. Uncontrollable Aqua, Uranus energy. Charles probably would never leave with her even if they had love because he was raised in more strictly and old fashioned royal traditions than his sons. He might never have courage to commit to Camila if those shocking events didn’t shake the Royals.
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SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted July 26, 2022 12:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: I think many things in Diana situation weren’t a matter of personal choice, but the energies, Karma played out. Uncontrollable Aqua, Uranus energy. Charles probably would never leave with her even if they had love because he was raised in more strictly and old fashioned royal traditions than his sons. He might never have courage to commit to Camila if those shocking events didn’t shake the Royals.
Yes this is true i agree with that. But what are your thoughts about Neptune do you think it’s linked to Scandals? IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1831 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted July 27, 2022 10:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by SleepyDiary: Yes this is true i agree with that. But what are your thoughts about Neptune do you think it’s linked to Scandals?
Neptune is delusions, confusions, projections. I could see how Neptune can drag you into scandals without you’re being fully aware of it. Also, Neptune is attraction to unavailable people so the third-party situations are the most likely type of scandals with Neptune. I tried to recall a big public scandal: Monica Lewinsky. She has Venus sq. Neptune, orb. 6 is kinda wide, but it really fits in her situation. Also, Mars sesqui-quadrate Neptune. Again, she might be a victim here. I don’t think Neptune is somebody who would create a scandal for a purpose, make a scene for attention. But somebody who would be tricked into a scandalous situation because they don’t think things through. About Monica, she has a lot of hard Mars and Uranus. These are more likely to cause big troubles and scandals. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 6273 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 27, 2022 11:55 AM
Neptunian people can have a tendency to pass themselves off as victims, so they might be scandal prone in the sense that they will attract situations where they are seen as victimized. The scandal with Neptunians can also happen when the lies and deception the lower Neptunians weave are uncovered. Otherwise, Neptunians are not scandalous, imo. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9734 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 27, 2022 03:41 PM
Neptune is a delicate energy.One that's quite tricky to understand or box. A situation must be looked at 3/4/5 times before coming to any conclusion. Neptune also rules things that appear one way. But turn out to be something else entirely (especially after closer inspection)Some secrets are not to be shared. It may be a premature time for them to come out. Are you "sneaky" by helping to conceal them? Or just preserving the peace? Neptune asks these questions.And the answers are never simple. Your rich stepfather whom your Mom and other siblings are WHOLLY dependant on financially has been assaulting you for years. Your mother loves him. And your siblings adore him.Do you tell? Knowing that you and your family may stand to lose EVERYTHING if he is sent to jail? Maybe even torn apart? Neptune wants to know. And what about catching your Mom in the throes of an affair? You adore your father and are extremely protective of him. She swears to never let that happen again. But then you discover that the person she is having relations with is actually your biological Father and perhaps even your siblings too?🙆🏿♂️ Do you disclose to the Father that raised and loved you? Risk a divorce for you and your siblings ? What do you do? These moral dilemmas are Neptunian in essence. Some Neptune people may lie- this to protect what they think will break if truth is out. Whilst others will lie because they want to save face. But you must discern between the two as sometimes Neptune requires you not to reveal something because it is premature or that people may not be ready to hear it. And that's the dilemma that Neptune situations put you in OR what Neptunian people often face. When is truth necessary? And when will it harm? How much do I reveal and if I conceal certain parts, will I still be lying? The truth is that on the finale of Desperate Housewives, the ladies ALL (either indirectly or directly) were involved in covering up a man's murder. Despicable he may have been. But he is dead nevertheless and deserves justice. Did they tell the truth? No.Ofcourse not. Too many lives would have been changed irrevocably had they chosen to. So someone else took the fall so that the rest could be saved. Neptune! They will never divulge the secret. It will stay with them forever. Even their closest family members or lovers will never know the true state of affairs. Neptune! " Can you keep a secret? And throw away the key? If you say "No" emphatically. You have yet to be touched by the opaque dilemmas of Neptune 🤫🤫🤫 IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 6273 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 27, 2022 03:49 PM
^^^ Interesting take. Thank you for sharing it!  IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted July 29, 2022 02:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: Neptune is delusions, confusions, projections. I could see how Neptune can drag you into scandals without you’re being fully aware of it. Also, Neptune is attraction to unavailable people so the third-party situations are the most likely type of scandals with Neptune. I don’t think Neptune is somebody who would create a scandal for a purpose, make a scene for attention. But somebody who would be tricked into a scandalous situation because they don’t think things through. .
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SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted July 29, 2022 02:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: Neptunian people can have a tendency to pass themselves off as victims, so they might be scandal prone in the sense that they will attract situations where they are seen as victimized. The scandal with Neptunians can also happen when the lies and deception the lower Neptunians weave are uncovered.
Exactly. I have also seen this with Pisces Venus and Moons IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 496 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted July 29, 2022 03:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Neptune is a delicate energy.One that's quite tricky to understand or box. A situation must be looked at 3/4/5 times before coming to any conclusion. Neptune also rules things that appear one way. But turn out to be something else entirely (especially after closer inspection)Some secrets are not to be shared. It may be a premature time for them to come out. Are you "sneaky" by helping to conceal them? Or just preserving the peace? Neptune asks these questions.And the answers are never simple. Your rich stepfather whom your Mom and other siblings are WHOLLY dependant on financially has been assaulting you for years. Your mother loves him. And your siblings adore him.Do you tell? Knowing that you and your family may stand to lose EVERYTHING if he is sent to jail? Maybe even torn apart? Neptune wants to know. And what about catching your Mom in the throes of an affair? You adore your father and are extremely protective of him. She swears to never let that happen again. But then you discover that the person she is having relations with is actually your biological Father and perhaps even your siblings too?🙆🏿♂️ Do you disclose to the Father that raised and loved you? Risk a divorce for you and your siblings ? What do you do? These moral dilemmas are Neptunian in essence. Some Neptune people may lie- this to protect what they think will break if truth is out. Whilst others will lie because they want to save face. But you must discern between the two as sometimes Neptune requires you not to reveal something because it is premature or that people may not be ready to hear it. And that's the dilemma that Neptune situations put you in OR what Neptunian people often face. When is truth necessary? And when will it harm? How much do I reveal and if I conceal certain parts, will I still be lying? The truth is that on the finale of Desperate Housewives, the ladies ALL (either indirectly or directly) were involved in covering up a man's murder. Despicable he may have been. But he is dead nevertheless and deserves justice. Did they tell the truth? No.Ofcourse not. Too many lives would have been changed irrevocably had they chosen to. So someone else took the fall so that the rest could be saved. Neptune! They will never divulge the secret. It will stay with them forever. Even their closest family members or lovers will never know the true state of affairs. Neptune! " Can you keep a secret? And throw away the key? If you say "No" emphatically. You have yet to be touched by the opaque dilemmas of Neptune 🤫🤫🤫
And here he is again just owning the stage and dropping the mic when he done 😎 You just leave people lost for words. Stop owning the stage so much haha. There is no point in continuing this thread after this. You explained it so beautifully and with so much insight 👍 IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9734 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 29, 2022 05:18 PM
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 22873 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 31, 2022 09:42 PM
“ Johnny Depp defenders crowdsourcing thousands to pay to unseal new pages and texts that support Amber Heard’s case AND outing a bunch of Marilyn Manson texts that support ERW’s case in the process… sometimes fate has a sense of humor” http://twitter.com/kattenbarge/status/1553853587893133317 Neptunians and their shenanigans. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 22873 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 31, 2022 09:46 PM
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