posted July 24, 2022 03:17 PM            

i'm posting a link where you could see my chart and tell me if you see for example possible marriage to the same sex, etc. since i'm new to astrology and reading charts is somewhat difficult for me, all help is appreciated and thx in advance

posted July 24, 2022 05:46 PM            

There are no "generic markers " for sexual orientation i have deduced from the natal chart so far in my practice. Only "predispositions". Nothing definitive.

Just as much as you can't tell from a skeleton remains that the person concerned is gay or straight. But there are markers of gender identity or even some traces of racial origin. And with those is the supposition of being heterosexual.

posted July 25, 2022 02:33 AM            

🤣🤣Are you saying that thinking about people(either gender) whom you don't find particularly attractive, gets you off faster?

Well, if that is the case. That is a paradox and impossibility. Because if anything is capable of getting us "off". It is usually attractive to us 🤷🏿‍��️.

The point of confusion would be if we are stuck with judgments about what we like. And then in our judgement of what we like vs. what we think we are "supposed" to like etc. We then try to merge our internal sense of aesthetics with what is deemed externally acceptable for us. But without success.

Societal conditioning is very real and can impact us in extraordinary ways -this even when it comes to sexuality. What we see on tv or read about can place value objections about what is actually pleasing to us.☝🏿

posted July 25, 2022 06:39 AM            

Venus conj Jupiter square Plu would suggest this antithetical energy and dissonance between the two planets i.e. Venus and Pluto.

This could manifest in many ways i.e. deriving pleasure(Ven) from demolishing things (Pluto). A love(Ven) for high drama (Plu). Falling inlove (Ven) with someone considered "deplorable"(Plu).

Whatever the manifested outcome, the underlying theme is that there is a detachment (Plu) from things governed by Ven(conventional) or a growing distain for them.

That is what is possibly causing the confusion. How can I like(Ven)something
so ugly(Plu)? Or how can I be aroused (Ven)by something that is not externally good-looking?

In time,one could begin to accept what brings them pleasure "as is". Or be trapped in their own judgement valuations (Ven) which will keep them at odds with themselves (thats what the square represents really)but will not rid them of that pleasure from thinking of it.

Ven-Plu are by nature paradoxical. The attraction(Ven) to taboo (Plu). The attraction (Ven)to something destructive (Plu).It is,at its core,the progressive detachment(Plu) from honoring "normalcy" (Ven).

Ven-Plu men(of whatever sexual orientation) may look to repeal Venus. So for instance ,they may be drawn to the ultra/uber masculine traits in women. Showing a disdain or discomfort with anything too "feminine"- because they deem it as "pretentious" and false.

Clyde Barrow(1/2 of the "Bonnie and Clyde" duo) had Venus in Pis squaring Plu in Gemini. He was attracted to women that dissociated with the Venus aspect within themselves i.e not conventionally feminine or "beautiful". Or were "macho" in some discernable way. Hence his infamous attraction to Bonnie-who was (by recorded accounts) the one calling the shots.

If in women,they may readily disassociate with gender conformance as per secular society(Ven) and act/dress in a way contradictory to their gender i.e. adopting more masculine traits and downplaying the feminine ones. Because perhaps they deem the latter "too weak" and "submissive" for their taste? Or conforming too much with conventional standards they would like to see changed etc.

Winnie Madikizela Mandela was formidable as a freedom fighter in the pre-Mandela release South Africa. Some would say even more than her then husband Nelson Mandela.

She has Venus in Libra square Pluto in Cancer (tight).She has had to dissociate with her Venusian (feminine) self in order to fight battles and stand in the face of opponents within her party (ANC) as well as external-in an unflinching way.

posted July 25, 2022 05:15 PM            

I think Ven-Ura as "gay" , was popularized by Astrologers in the 80's and 90's. This since Uranus turns everything on its head. And that is what same sex love/attraction was thought to do at the time i.e. turn everything "normal" on its head.

My view is different. Any planet can show an inclination towards any sexual orientation when in aspect to Venus. If we look however at homosexuality, the following conclusions can also be made.

Jupiter-Venus is "Big love" and can show ones capacity to love past gender constraints or any boundary. It could indicate bisexuality too since Jup(Zeus) was indifferent to the gender of those he messed around with.

Sat-Venus can be "forbidden love" or love that evolves from being platonic to being something a little more. But there is hardship and denial usually attached to it-either the person has repressed sexuality issues i.e. internalized homophobia. Or is flat out in denial about their orientation.

On the other hand, it can also show love that grows over time and affection that may be deep and loyal but not always necessarily physically possible or openly demonstrated because of Saturn's boundaries.

The movie "Brokeback Mountain" demonstrated this type of love beautifully.

Nep-Ven can show situational attraction i.e. usually in a place in ones life where one transcends known personal boundaries. This could be prison love (situational homosexuality), attraction to someone gender ambiguous or infatuation/admiration for someone of the same gender that evolves to sexual/romantic feelings

***When drunk(Nep) guys kiss each other or get very affectionate with each other.

Soccer/Football fans often demonstrate this fanatical love/devotion for their sport heros that borders on obsession & stalking.

Fraternity brothers /boarding school communities swear allegiance to each other or to their leader. As a result, some (as is often reported) engage in same sex sex or indulging in homoerotic activities to "strengthen bonding ". It happens in the army too.

Hollywood has now also coined the term "man crush" to describe a same sex individuals who admire or find each other attractive. The other term is "bromance".

Suffice it to say that Neptune can lower inhibitions and the tendency to self judge when choosing to show affection /love to someone of the same sex.

Neptube-Ven love however tebds to have a "vampire" effect i.e. it only thrives in secrecy or in places far removed from societal interference.

Plu-Ven can show a detachment towards conventional or "acceptable" love. This could suggest an attraction to non-gender conforming people or trangender individuals etc.

posted July 27, 2022 12:06 PM            

I think there are no definitive markers in planetary combinations for most things- having Mars Pluto isn't always going to indicate violence, having Pluto in 4th isn't always going to mean abuse in the home... it's potential and it's also possibly indicative of other events in life, and lessons in life.