posted August 20, 2022 11:25 AM            

Scorpios are the weakest of the water signs, they are the embodiment of all bark no bite. They try to stir the pot, are naturally very envious, make enemies out of nowhere due to their envious hatred of people doing better than them, and make for very easy targets once people see through their fakeness and them trying to play people. I often find them getting in the middle of gossip and getting wrecked because they happened to get caught up in drama they had no business in.

For earth signs, strongest IMO is Taurus. I see it in so many of the best fighters out there. They are methodical, driven, and care about their own success only. Often times, they are thick skinned unlike their opposing sign and tend to weather obstacles and setbacks well. I see the main character from There Will Be Blood as the prototypical Taurus, which is also Daniel Day Lewis's star sign!

posted August 20, 2022 11:36 AM            

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They probably had some Neptune/12th house and or Pisces in their charts. Sounds a lot like the negative side of this influence. Even fire signs can be in denial and not face facts sometimes because they can let their ego get in the way or be too optimistic or naive.

I’m not and have never only just talked about Sun signs. When i’m talking about a sign i’m talking about people that have that influence in their charts especially people that express strongly the true nature of a sign so when i’m talking about a Pisces i’m very rarely talking about a Pisces Sun with a chart filled with maybe fire. It’s weak to stay around someone that treat you like s h i t because you choose to turn a blind eye and put your rose-colored glasses on instead or never being able to trust someone because they at any second might change their opinion or behavior because they have been around somebody else. I’m sorry but this to me is just not strenght and can be a very negative side of Neptune/Pisces and or 12th housers.

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No they do not have any strong Neptune or Pisces in their chart. I knew you'd say that though.

posted August 20, 2022 12:06 PM            

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No they do not have any strong Neptune or Pisces in their chart. I knew you'd say that though.

And yeah staying with someone for treating them like **** is weak in your opinion and in mine, too. Oftentimes these people justify this with their faith like many women who have been indoctrinated this way. My parents' country is full of women who have been raised to think they are worth less than men and allow crap behaviour from men on the daily. I doubt they all have Pisces/Neptune dominance in their chart.

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And i knew you gonna say that because you can’t admit there is a negative side to this sign.
And i have dealt with Pisces influenced people that are free to do whatever but still chooses to be in the d u m b e s t situations because they don’t want to face the music. This thread was about who is the weakest or strongest out of Earth and Water signs and you didn’t have to come in here if you didn’t want to play along or can’t handle hearing negative things about whatever you have in your chart. I am highly Neptunian myself and i also have a 12th house moon on top of that and know all too well the bad sides of this influence. I also have Moon opposite Neptune and the opposition aspect is also what you might deal with from other people and i have also dealt with other people expressing the negative side of this Planet/Sign.

posted August 20, 2022 12:11 PM            

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Yes but people don’t have to go into the OP’s thread and give the OP crap for wanting to just know who’s the weakest or strongest.

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posted August 20, 2022 01:22 PM            

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I’m not trying to defend OP this is something i find annoying with some people on here. There are some people on here that seem to never want to hear any negative things about whatever they have in their charts and can’t respect when other people have had bad experience with someone that might have the same influence like their own in their charts. Every placement has a bad side and this site might be used to focus on the negative and bad too which it seems like some people can’t handle.

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Because they don’t apply to every single person of a sign. I remember the threads about “if they have Venus in Gemini…RUN!!!” and those, along with threads about moon in Gemini, would come back around like clockwork. Aries got off easy, because we’re the babies of the zodiac, and don’t know any better. This would be applied to all of us. So, I’m a villain automatically, because I have moon/Venus in Gemini, but I’m an Aries, so I don’t mean to be. Until now, in recent years, when Aries have been declared to be war machines, and we need to battle you over everything, doesn’t matter what it is.

posted August 20, 2022 01:32 PM            

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I also think some people on here forget that some people on here might be youngsters or don’t have much knowledge about astrology but are still very much interested in it so they might make threads you more knowledgable people might find a little lame but just move on to the next thread instead of wanting the OP to feel stupid or bad about wanting to know some things. All the signs have bad aswell as good qualities to them and their weaknesses and strenghts. Some will use this site to focus on the good and some the bad. We all should respect that

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posted August 20, 2022 02:04 PM            

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So apply it to the people they’ve actually experienced things with, instead of all of us.

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posted August 20, 2022 03:42 PM            

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People seriously need to understand that every placement have their positives and negatives so when someone comes in here and might complain about how a Gemini Venus is a cheater or doesn’t want to commit that is their experience with a Gemini Venus. Because Gemini Venus can be HUGE flirts and can play a lot of games and can be hard to date because they might need a lot of stimulaton. Does this mean you are a cheater or play mind games? No. But it is a possibility with this placement to be like that. A side to Gemini can be the trickster, flirts and loving to play mind games. I have heard a few things about s h i t i have in my own chart too like how Libras are fake and phony and also cheaters. Do i relate to that? No. But that doesn’t mean that influence can’t play out like that and some people have experienced us Libras in that way. Libras can be huge flirts too and have a weak attitude because they can be such people pleasers.

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That can apply to ANYONE, though. Literally anyone. I’ve lost interest in astrology, a lot. Because of threads like that, and then the posts that were full of scary things about eclipses and such. It can get into your head, like knowing about these Pluto transits I will continue to have. It’s never going away.

posted August 20, 2022 04:59 PM            

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That can apply to ANYONE, though. Literally anyone. I’ve lost interest in astrology, a lot. Because of threads like that, and then the posts that were full of scary things about eclipses and such. It can get into your head, like knowing about these Pluto transits I will continue to have. It’s never going away.

I’ve also had people tell me who I am, or assume bad things from my chart, even if I tell them differently. I’m either in denial, or a liar, because they know me, more than I know myself, thanks to what they’ve learned on the internet. In the past, I remember passive-aggressive **** , and it gets old. I can now understand why some astrologers hide their charts.

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I don’t read about transits because i know it can f u c k with your mind and you should stay away from things that might negativly affect you. But you don’t have to go into threads and get all defensive because this is what some people want to know and talk about. Ofc they gonna learn about it from the internet because EVERY placement/sign has their bad sides and astrologers have written that down and some people have unfortunately gotten to experience that in real life and come on here and have been wanting to talk about the negatives instead, and maybe even understand why certain signs act the way they do and you should be able to respect that even if you can’t relate. Ofc any sign can be like that but it can be more common among the masculine signs like the Air signs and they have different reasons for why they might do the things they do. Gemini’s can be cheaters because they need to be mentally stimulated often and can get easily bored if things get a little predictable and just love to flirt. Libras can be cheaters because they too are sociable butterflies that also can be huge flirts but also because they can be people pleasers and have a weak sense of loyality. Aquarius is the most likely to be open for or be in or wanting to be in open relationships esp having Venus in this sign or having Uranus anywhere near the Venus in a hard aspect or being in the 11th house because they can like it untraditional, or be rebellious in love (which can resultat in cheating) or love having their space and freedom to do whatever. Different placements can have similar traits but do the same things for different reasons.

posted August 20, 2022 11:32 PM            

My husband is a Mars dominant chart, his Mars is in rulership in Scorpio.

So that a fixed Mars, and he has Venus in Aquarius fixed Venus. Saturn in Scorpio too, this important because his Venus is rule by Saturn.

His Scorpio Mars (in a fixed house) strike an EXACT Square of 0 degree orb to his Aquarius Venus (whom in a fixed house too). Mars Square Venus at 0 orb EXACT.

The ruler of his Venus is Saturn (his Saturn in Scorpio). So her own ruler Scorpio Saturn strike her with a Square too. Again, both square at fixed houses. Saturn also Square his Venus.

Basically this Venus (Aquarius) cannot move anywhere, when Scorpio Mars strike her with a perfect square. And her own ruler Scorpio Saturn also strike her with a square.

He is married 11 years, together 13 years. And No, open relationship? Over this dead body. He obsess, possessive, intense, extreme, obsess and obsess.

He the type of man that, "Don't I DARE mention another man in his presence" type. Open relationship? LOL, now that funny. Over his dead body.

posted August 20, 2022 11:50 PM            

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But that doesn’t mean that influence can’t play out like that and some people have experienced us Libras in that way. Libras can be huge flirts too and have a weak attitude because they can be such people pleasers.

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Libra is a cardinal sign, not a pushover. The Librans I've known in real life and those I know of sometimes compromised a lot, but that's not the same thing as bending over backwards (as they get something for themselves rather than being a meek little mouse). Because they tend to dress appropriately with good color coordination doesn't mean they're slaves to fashion magazines (I'd say they're more likely to be making the fashions than following them, and disregarding the gaudy more often than not). I can think of harsh judges, tyrants, legendary homicidal criminals (Bonnie Parker wrote a poem that even revealed she knew how her violent life was going to end, though I think she saw herself not as bad as the banks and police--and I'm inclined to agree with her there), and people shockers (like Aleister Crowley).

The actual problem with Libras is that we love to Balance, which can be good, but can make us argumentative. People also don't like that we'll try to be fair rather than unfair in your favor (it's the first on the transcendent side of the zodiac wheel). 'Course most don't like to be disagreed with at all since they feel personally attacked, especially the less transcendent signs.

It can be inconvenient because we can be workaholics one day and layabouts another, as that precious Balance is grasped for, but often failing. Can be diplomatic (though professional diplomats should not, as a rule, be trusted) one day, and compulsively contrarian another. Libra can desire the social life one day, and then need to be left alone to read with calming music the next who doesn't want to pick up his or her phone.

But flirts? Possible, for some, but I wouldn't go that far. I don't recall any particularly flirtatious. Especially as my simply being friendly without any desire for romance or verbal play is often mistaken for flirting (but then plenty of "gurus" and magazines tell men and women that any positive acknowledging of your existence is romantic or sexual interest, and their egos eat that interpretation up).

But I can see a Libran having a hard time making up their mind on how close they want to be with someone, and for how long (but when they make up their mind, they're unlikely to be swayed otherwise unless they have a lot of mutables, in part because they should have a good idea what they're getting into after taking that much time to decide, unlike others so easily fooled by their own fantasies projected onto others). They won't want to burn their bridge until they've made their minds, but at the same time don't want to make promises they're not sure they're ready to keep.

I will acknowledge my faults. I'll acknowledge the negative sides of the signs. I just think the pop astrology today is wrong in its interpretations (both the positive and negative traits) based on faulty assumptions that they work backwards from (like assuming the loud mouth hot head acting like a child is strong, when from my point of view, they're weak, or skilled performers playing the crowd, as are those cheering them on, typically projecting themselves into someone they see as strong and providing a view simple enough to understand and bond over tribally).

And not just about Libra.

posted August 21, 2022 12:05 AM            

Cancer is Cardinal, and can be dangerous when they feel what they're loyal to is threatened. But they feel betrayed all too easily, generally speaking.

posted August 21, 2022 12:44 AM            

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I don’t read about transits because i know it can f u c k with your mind and you should stay away from things that might negativly affect you. But you don’t have to go into threads and get all defensive because this is what some people want to know and talk about. Ofc they gonna learn about it from the internet because EVERY placement/sign has their bad sides and astrologers have written that down and some people have unfortunately gotten to experience that in real life and come on here and have been wanting to talk about the negatives instead, and maybe even understand why certain signs act the way they do and you should be able to respect that even if you can’t relate. Ofc any sign can be like that but it can be more common among the masculine signs like the Air signs and they have different reasons for why they might do the things they do. Gemini’s can be cheaters because they need to be mentally stimulated often and can get easily bored if things get a little predictable and just love to flirt. Libras can be cheaters because they too are sociable butterflies that also can be huge flirts but also because they can be people pleasers and have a weak sense of loyality. Aquarius is the most likely to be open for or be in or wanting to be in open relationships esp having Venus in this sign or having Uranus anywhere near the Venus in a hard aspect or being in the 11th house because they can like it untraditional, or be rebellious in love (which can resultat in cheating) or love having their space and freedom to do whatever. Different placements can have similar traits but do the same things for different reasons.

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posted August 21, 2022 12:46 AM            

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Libra is a cardinal sign, not a pushover. The Librans I've known in real life and those I know of sometimes compromised a lot, but that's not the same thing as bending over backwards (as they get something for themselves rather than being a meek little mouse). Because they tend to dress appropriately with good color coordination doesn't mean they're slaves to fashion magazines (I'd say they're more likely to be making the fashions than following them, and disregarding the gaudy more often than not). I can think of harsh judges, tyrants, legendary homicidal criminals (Bonnie Parker wrote a poem that even revealed she knew how her violent life was going to end, though I think she saw herself not as bad as the banks and police--and I'm inclined to agree with her there), and people shockers (like Aleister Crowley).

The actual problem with Libras is that we love to Balance, which can be good, but can make us argumentative. People also don't like that we'll try to be fair rather than unfair in your favor (it's the first on the transcendent side of the zodiac wheel). 'Course most don't like to be disagreed with at all since they feel personally attacked, especially the less transcendent signs.

It can be inconvenient because we can be workaholics one day and layabouts another, as that precious Balance is grasped for, but often failing. Can be diplomatic (though professional diplomats should not, as a rule, be trusted) one day, and compulsively contrarian another. Libra can desire the social life one day, and then need to be left alone to read with calming music the next who doesn't want to pick up his or her phone.

But flirts? Possible, for some, but I wouldn't go that far. I don't recall any particularly flirtatious. Especially as my simply being friendly without any desire for romance or verbal play is often mistaken for flirting (but then plenty of "gurus" and magazines tell men and women that any positive acknowledging of your existence is romantic or sexual interest, and their egos eat that interpretation up).

But I can see a Libran having a hard time making up their mind on how close they want to be with someone, and for how long (but when they make up their mind, they're unlikely to be swayed otherwise unless they have a lot of mutables, in part because they should have a good idea what they're getting into after taking that much time to decide, unlike others so easily fooled by their own fantasies projected onto others). They won't want to burn their bridge until they've made their minds, but at the same time don't want to make promises they're not sure they're ready to keep.

I will acknowledge my faults. I'll acknowledge the negative sides of the signs. I just think the pop astrology today is wrong in its interpretations (both the positive and negative traits) based on faulty assumptions that they work backwards from (like assuming the loud mouth hot head acting like a child is strong, when from my point of view, they're weak, or skilled performers playing the crowd, as are those cheering them on, typically projecting themselves into someone they see as strong and providing a view simple enough to understand and bond over tribally).

And not just about Libra.

So says another argumentative Libra.

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posted August 21, 2022 03:05 AM            

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ok, I just want to say something, since I read that Aquarius Venus likes open relationship, Lol. This is false.

My husband is a Mars dominant chart, his Mars is in rulership in Scorpio.

So that a fixed Mars, and he has Venus in Aquarius fixed Venus. Saturn in Scorpio too, this important because his Venus is rule by Saturn.

His Scorpio Mars (in a fixed house) strike an EXACT Square of 0 degree orb to his Aquarius Venus (whom in a fixed house too). Mars Square Venus at 0 orb EXACT.

The ruler of his Venus is Saturn (his Saturn in Scorpio). So her own ruler Scorpio Saturn strike her with a Square too. Again, both square at fixed houses. Saturn also Square his Venus.

Basically this Venus (Aquarius) cannot move anywhere, when Scorpio Mars strike her with a perfect square. And her own ruler Scorpio Saturn also strike her with a square.

He is married 11 years, together 13 years. And No, open relationship? Over this dead body. He obsess, possessive, intense, extreme, obsess and obsess.

He the type of man that, "Don't I DARE mention another man in his presence" type. Open relationship? LOL, now that funny. Over his dead body.

Stop listen to pop astrology, Aquarius is a FIXED sign after all. Once they commit, it forever. And I already represent my case. No, he never cheat on me, NEVER see him bother look at another girl walk by, let alone cheat.

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Haha does that mean this placement can’t be like that because YOUR husband isn’t ? It IS the sign that CAN be the most likely to be open for something more untraditional. Have you ever read about Aquarius/Uranus? Do you have any experience with Aquarians/Uranians other than your husband? Read about it before you post. I have a few experiences with Aquarius influenced people i know how f u c k i n g weird they can be. This is not the first time i see you reply to something and haven’t really gotten what the other is saying. I mean your the one that still thinks Aries23 is a woman when it has been made clear that he isn’t.

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Libra is a cardinal sign, not a pushover.
So says another argumentative Libra.

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I agree with a lot of what you said but we can be pushovers too, i talk from experience. My closest friend has a Libra stellium and a lot of the things she can tolerate she does for sociable reasons and have been a pushover a few times because of that. But this is not my point i just want people on here to understand that everything has a bad side and some gonna focus on that. I don’t want to write how Cancer moons in the 9th house opposite Neptune in the 9th degree with a dash of Saturn in the mix might be childish so it won’t come off so ‘’pop astrology’’ for some people on here. It’s an effort plus it CAN be a side to a Cancer moon to be childish.

Same with this thread we talked about people that have that influence in their charts and how the negatives and positives can play out with these influences i don’t see the problem in that. Some on here will have more mature threads going and some will have more lighthearted and ‘’immature’’ ones.

posted August 21, 2022 06:02 AM            

strongest sun earth sign is virgo

strongest sun water sign is cancer

Taurus/Scorpio (an axis) the weakest for the Sun. I have a similar idea as PixieJane in regards to there being an either-or fundamental weakness of the ego here. A flaw; foible in solar energy. Contrary to others opinions on Taurus, however seemingly impressive, I prefer not to confuse entitlement with “strength” of character.

Pisces is also somewhat weak, although, not as *direly influenced* as Scorpio, who is impaled by relationships.

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Weakest and the most naive out of the water signs sadly i have to say Pisces. I find they can be too weak willed and wishy washy sometimes. Too forgiving of bad behavior and can just gloss over things. I find Cancer and Scorpio more similar in that they aren’t as forgiving, changeable/influenced easily by others and don’t gloss over things. Unlike Pisces they can face negativity without trying to brush it under the rug. Cancer just has a softer approach then Scorpio but underneath they have things in common when it comes to the matter of the heart.

Out of the Earth signs i find Capricorn the strongest. They have a strenght to them that are just really admirable it takes a lot to break these guys down. Taurus is a close second.

Weakest sadly i have to say Virgo. They can be really sensitive about the way they look and their intelligence. Easily broken down if they don’t feel like they look ‘’perfect’’ or they can be offended if you disagree with them. There is a certain arrogance in their intellectual capabilities i have noticed because they are intelligent and they know it but because of that they get offended/hurt when you don’t agree or point out that they are wrong.

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Hey Chica.

I agree with *all* the above. 💯 Super accurate.

WEAKEST: Pisces & Virgo
STRONGEST: Scorpio & Capricorn

posted August 21, 2022 06:47 AM            

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I feel like Taurus is the most mentally stable.(AS LONG AS YOU AGREE WITH THEM)

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Girrrl you ain't lying!

As long as you AGREE with a Taurus it's all good - they are very stable in general. But once you strongly disagree with them about *anything* - many turn into Amber Heard. 😂

I recently had to cut ties with (2) Taurean Women I had been cool with and knew for quite sometime. They kept trying to FORCE their crappy opinions down my throat. And as we know... Aries doesn't f--k around with that mess and (most) will unapologetically put you IN YOUR PLACE. 💯 These Bulls had to learn the hard way! Both of them had Cap Moons as well.

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Hey Chica.

I agree with *all* the above. 💯 Super accurate.

WEAKEST: Pisces & Virgo
STRONGEST: Scorpio & Capricorn

BTW - we know that "strength" is not determined by Sun Sign alone.

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Heeeey great to see you again ☺️

‘’ BTW - we know that "strength" is not determined by Sun Sign alone’’

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Girrrl you ain't lying!

As long as you AGREE with a Taurus it's all good - they are very stable in general. But once you strongly disagree with them about *anything* - many turn into Amber Heard. 😂.

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TRUTH

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Amber Heard, Adolf Hitler, Sadam Hussein, Jim Jones, Kim II Sung, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, Ho Chi Minh, or Niccolo Machiavelli(ism) — Sun in Taurus

Entitlement, otherwise an extreme inflation of ego, is the “weakness”

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