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Topic: Leos are hated because their ambitions bring out the insecurities in people.
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plutonianmenace Knowflake Posts: 641 From: Iowa Registered: Feb 2021
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posted August 20, 2022 11:32 AM
I feel like I have seen people hate Leos, and fire signs in general but namely Leos, because their ambition and wanting to go after things brings out the insecurities in people. I'll give a good example.One of my old coworkers and friends is a Leo and he was in the process of moving to NYC. In that process, he would only look for apartments in Manhattan. We had an old Virgo on the team who was from Long Island and could never afford to live in Manhattan. Leo would try to lock down places in Manhattan but it would fall through the cracks. When we would ask him how it is going, he would say he is still working it out. Somehow, all of the talks of Manhattan brought out the insecurities in the Virgo. I was wondering why the Virgo was raging so much and telling the Leo to get a place in Queens instead. Leo was confused too but then I realized that the Virgo never lived in Manhattan in his prime years so it brought out that degree of hurt in him. Long story short, Leo finally lands a place in Manhattan with roommates and Virgo is still very bitter towards him. Tells him how he will live in a closet and all of that because Manhattan is for millionaires only. Leo shrugs it off and just lives life, seems happy in Manhattan now. However, I learned in that time that Virgo has serious demons around not being able to afford Manhattan in his youth and Leo kind of brought that out. I feel like because Leos are so forward and noisy about their ambitions and goals, they bring out the jealously and envy in other people who feel insecure about not having accomplished those things. What Leos can work on is not being so vocal and expressive of their dreams and goals. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1832 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted August 20, 2022 12:46 PM
Virgo generally is too practical and might be stingy to care about vanity living in an overpriced, but smaller place. Virgo wouldn’t see it as ambitions, but showing off and being impractical. It’s a legit advise to get place in Queens what might be bigger and more affordable. Why would Leo see hate and jealousy there?IP: Logged |
plutonianmenace Knowflake Posts: 641 From: Iowa Registered: Feb 2021
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posted August 20, 2022 01:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: Virgo generally is too practical and might be stingy to care about vanity living in an overpriced, but smaller place. Virgo wouldn’t see it as ambitions, but showing off and being impractical. It’s a legit advise to get place in Queens what might be bigger and more affordable. Why would Leo see hate and jealousy there?
Because Virgo talked endlessly about how unaffordable Manhattan was when he tried to get a place there and associated it with millionaires. I get where you are coming from but this Virgo had a lot of sour grapes over Manhattan based on my convos with him that followed, especially over some drinks. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 7522 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted August 22, 2022 10:10 PM
I do think Leo's like to flaunt how fabulous their life can be. I mean they typically like attention and glamour. Sometimes people looking like they are having fun and glamour can trigger people. Every sign can be jealous it is part of being a human, but it's how we deal with it that counts. I have Leo IC and SN. I have experienced triggering people and inspiring people. Seriously some people cannot stand the sight of me being comfortable, confident, and even welcomed in a space. As much as I know that people that do this are miserable, not wanting to do shadow work, projection whhhhores, etc. I can know this. But I am not Jesus, I am human. And it does take a toll having to be around people like this. I have been thinking about flaunting the good things in my life. Should I really keep my head down because it will make people upset and want bad things to happen to me???? Sure. But I also don't think it's healthy to feel like you have to hide good things...seriously like your face smiling could be enough to trigger somebody. I'm not going to wear a ski mask, because someone will be triggered that I have resting smile face. Yeah some people will wish bad on your for your good...but if their intentions are in the wrong place it will bite them in the arse later. I think of people I have actually inspired, and people that have inspired me. And that's why I've come to the conclusion to not to hide your joy, and glamour. Plus I am also secretly petty AF sometimes I'll take a picture of me having fun...it's my way of giving the miserable and projection whhhhores the middle finger. IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 7522 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted August 22, 2022 10:38 PM
Virgos and jealously lets see...My husband is a quadruple Virgo. (rising, mercury, Venus, and Mars) He totally projects. Since it is their nature to be critical...it is probably because they are hardest on themselves. The shadow side of Virgo can be projecting on how inadequate they feel onto others. One example my husband is a nerd. So when he saw how openly nerdy my second cousin was at my cousin's wedding. He told me "Man that little kid is way to nerdy, they need to bring bullies back" He cracked me TF up. He was being funny. But part of me knew that since he was a 90's/early 2000's kids that he learned that he had to tone down his nerdiness a bit. He also use to tell me what I wasn't doing while I was being productive and he really wasn't doing anything. I have too much of an attitude though, and will call him out. I think he is so use to my attitude I can't recall him doing this anytime recently. Also I think sometimes he does get jealous of my best friend. Not because he is threatened by him romantically/intimately. I mean my best friend "plays for the other team." But how close we are. And my husband wants to feel like the number one man in my life. My husband was starting to act up around him. I talked to my husband privately and told him that he is starting to act the way his sister acts around me, and that its not a good look, and unlike his family I wont look the other way to it. My husband has been critical of my appearance. Not okay ever. And I've made his life a living hell for it. But then one time I found a pile of pictures of himself when he was a kid. His face was scratched out in pictures, he had holes poked in his eyes, etc. My sister use to do things like this also. So I just asked him, if he went though a phase where he hated himself and he said yes. Sometimes his possessive side comes out. I've had guys approach me at the bar while I'm on the phone with him. And he'll say something like "that guy shouldn't be doing that." IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 7522 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted August 22, 2022 11:01 PM
My husband also has Leo Sun and Jupiter (not in conjunction. (His Sun is 12 degrees and his Jupiter is 21 degrees) I witnessed a guy at Walgreens be all pizzy with him. This guy working at Walgreens gave off neckbeard incel vibes. He sees my now husband with a girl(ME!!). My husband is a good looking guy in my opinion. The French Canadian gene is very prominent in my husband petite like Napoleon, tan, hairy, and pouty lips. But not really a "Chad" as they say on the internet. I got vibes that this guy was a bit triggered. But then when my husband asked for 50 bucks to be put on each gift card (xmas season) I was apparent that this guys blood was boiling. The guy still did his job, but was all like 'gosh!' When we walked out of the store I brought up how weird that was. My husband acted like nothing happened. But he agreed with me. And I explained how that guy was jealous/triggered by him and my husband did not disagree. But people never see what that person has been though to earn what they have. My husband never had a girlfriend until me. My husband has such a phobia of not being in control of his finances. That he will be super cheap and simple most of the time, and will throw down a big wad for the people he loves, and other special occasions. My husband also use to work at coffee places and deliver pizzas. But yeah I think I was more mad at that guys attitude to my husband. Husband did not seem phased at all. lol IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 7522 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted August 22, 2022 11:48 PM
I can vibe with other Leo's but yeah sometimes they can be annoying to me. I think sometimes Leo's can't read the room if someone is not as happy as them, I'm not happy all the time, while I can be an ecstatic dork a lot. But at the same time Leo's should not have to dim their light, and that if someone is in a bad mood that is that person's personal problem. I cannot stand being around my Leo Sun and Mercury mom when I am having a dark mood period. My mom either likes to stir the pot or she is super unaware. For example Before my husband there was the Scorpio stellilum guy. He would play mind games where he would say he was going on the trip and then say he couldn't go. If I didn't give him the reaction he wanted then suddenly he could go for half of the trip. Anyways yeah while my mom is great she can also be a lot. And somehow for family activities I would always end up being right next to her. Yeah Scorpio f()ck boy was not with me. But that does not define me. So she thinks it's appropriate to say "don't you wish he was here????" Ummm if anything I wish you would get out of my face. Also my mom will be really annoying and when anyone snaps, she gaslights them like "wow so negative" "gosh you're so hostile" I kind of admire it now. Underneath that sunny Gemini Rising, and Leo Sun is a Capricorn moon. So while she is all like "woooow!" She just makes the other person act more crazy and stomp off. That is winning the fight for her. I think sometimes that maybe I should try that with people I trigger. Plus since Capricorn is "in fall?" with this moon sign. It has the hardest time with feelings and acts like they have none? So with Leo and Gemini fronting the Capricorn moon she only wants to talk about good feelings. And if you are in a bad mood, who wants to be around a lady Ned Flanders?! "Don't say thaaat" if someone is venting. My Leo moon/Mercury friend. Since he is a Cancer Sun I can talk to him about my dark moods, but we can still make jokes about it. We can spend long periods of time together, but my social battery can run out. He gets uncomfortable if I am low energy or not talkative. And this can be funny. Like if I am in the back seat looking out the window. "Stawr are you okay back there." I don't think the Ellen show is funny. If I don't laugh at a joke. "Stawr did you hear the joke!?" I've also accused him of mansplaining before, after spending 3 days in a row with him. But I realize that he could just be doing it because he's excited, or wants me to be more on his level. But sometimes I do get pizzed that I am getting treated like a freak if I am not acting like a "woo-girl" like I'm human, I should not have to put on an act and fake being excited if I am not excited. Like it's okay to just feel okay sometimes. I'm not even talking about horrible. Just being okay freaks him out. Okay my husband has an excuse to not always be able to read the room with his Asperger's. He has always had a harder time to adjusting to changed roles. Like if I had the day off and he didn't I can be happy for me while also reading the room of not to be all in his face and talk his ear off when he first walks in the door. Well when he has the day off and I don't it's not pretty. Once I worked all day and went xmas shopping for a bunch of people right after work. Productive, accomplished. But yeah when I got home I was whopped and hungry for dinner. He is over the moon from having a day off. That is okay. But he is just in my face and all over me. Since he was using up all of his PTO before the new year. I can't even get a frozen meal out of the freezer with out him waking my head with a Christmas wrapping paper roll. I saw red, and I threw a box at him. He gaslights me. (I really think gaslighting is a Leo thing sometimes) So then once I calm down I have to explain to him to be more considerate of people who had a long day. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 162076 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 03, 2022 02:00 PM
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Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 4065 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted September 04, 2022 11:24 AM
manhattan is awful anyway, smells like **** and is endless concrete, traffic, and touristsi'm originally from nyc, and it isn't bad advice for someone to suggest another borough or a jealousy thing🤷♀️ you just project a lot onto everything IP: Logged |
plutonianmenace Knowflake Posts: 641 From: Iowa Registered: Feb 2021
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posted September 15, 2022 12:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: manhattan is awful anyway, smells like **** and is endless concrete, traffic, and touristsi'm originally from nyc, and it isn't bad advice for someone to suggest another borough or a jealousy thing🤷♀️ you just project a lot onto everything
LMFAO, there is NO POINT in living in NYC if you do not live in Manhattan. May as well go live in a red state or somewhere more affordable. IP: Logged | |