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spacecadet42420
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posted September 18, 2022 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecadet42420     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know that this has been said time and time again but I want to talk about it.


So, Pluto in Capricorn is the breakdown of structual values & establishments, anything considered fundamental, including belief systems, economic, social structures, everything. Everything that has been essential to our way of life for so long.

We've first hand witnessed people lose their minds whether they're blindly trusting the government, or woke up to the fact that the government is insanely and irreversibly corrupt on a global scale. Whatevre it may be people woke up in the last 10-15 years.


I imagine by the end of the transit [and of course already happened] that many people will feel lost, hopeless, searching for identity, for purpose, on a grand scale that they weren't before. They're looking for a savior, for meaning. Pluto in Capricorn has been a wake up call.

Pluto in Aquarius will obviously bring many many things but one thing is after the age of "information" or "misinformation" where everything is distorted and it is so difficult to find the truth these days, people will be turning to anything outside of themselves for comfort.


I have a strong feeling this is going to turn into very cult-esque situations. As well as substantial increase in drug abuse and escapism. People will be lost and want to be found again. Never looking within. As well as I imagine there will be a huge uptick in suicides. Once people realize things they've comitted themselves to aren't real or never were or aren't what they thought they were, and again i mean capricorn/saturn levels of fundamental beliefs and opinions, so think core values, memories, morals, etc. These are being broken down. The value of the nuclear family, the value of embracing who you are and not confusing a generation to think they are born in the wrong body and commit to irreversible surgeries and medications. Or believing that you could trust the government or how famlies and friends have been torn apart over political differences which is ridiculous but whatever its happening.

Anyway, my point is that once people are faced with these realizations or have lived with them for awhile, some people aren't very strong minded and will lean into anything that will bring them solice. We've already seen cult-like behavior in america in regards to politics and gender. Which even if you chose to not keep up with the news or are generally unaware of current events, things are getting extremely out of control and in the realms of cult like behavior on both sides of the political spectrum and also gender/lgbtq+ groups behaving this way. Tiktok is a cess poool of a research ground for watching how people behave like a social experiment.


I'm rambling at this point, I just think Pluto in Aquarius will be a technology/survellience nightmare as well as a cultural reset for society, suicide, drugs - maybe even introduction of a new drug that takes over, a new religion, so on and so forth.

What do you guys think Pluto in Aquarius will be like?

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posted September 19, 2022 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting, thank you.

I can see me being on the kool-aide for Pluto in Aquarius until it gets to the middle degrees. LOL

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posted September 19, 2022 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like Pluto in Sagittarius has me thinking about Ms. Cleo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZwLG7yJg1g

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posted September 19, 2022 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In sidereal astrology, Pluto has only just started its ingress in Cap. Infact, its ingress coincided with the lockdown regulations imposed by government the world over(including my country).

This is strongly fascinating to me and so I had to sit up and take note. Go back in time to see when each ingress (via sidereal) was made? And what(if any)were the changes on either the national or global scale?

*Uranus ingressed to Aries (sidereal) when Meghan and Harry married.

*Pluto ingressed with Jupiter into Cap (sidereal)when they decided to give up their duties and responsibilities. The two planets were conjunct.

*Pluto ingressed to Sag when Obama was elected as the First African-American President of the United States of America (20 Jan 2009). Uranus/ Saturn were also in opposition.

I feel like the Pluto motion into Cap(sidereal) in March 2020, The Covid pandemic and subsequent government actions etc. was actually a visceral manifestation of this Pluto in Cap transit.

Since it was the state(Cap)that was imposing its power(Pluto) on the collective. With controversial results on our end(South Africa).

With absolute power given to the military, there was abuse and reports of military officials assaulting civilians etc. Ironically, all in the name of "protecting" them against covid.

I certainly feel that with Pluto in Cap, there is a sense of "out with the old , archaic structure" because look at how this ingress also coincided with Prince Phillip and the Queen's death?

Even in my family, there have been structural changes since it started crossing my Mc/Ic axis in 2021/2020. My two maternal Uncles passed away in close proximity of each other.

So i think that there will be more of that. More structural changes and old authority(Cap) dying out(Pluto).

Netflix blew up during the lockdown 2020. And changed the key role players in cinematic control and entertainment. The industry floodgates opened for stars beyond the Hollywood "usual suspects". That even the veterans are now doing series and films that they may not have considered before this "Netflix" explosion.

I see this change as indicative of Pluto ingress into Cap. As i do the increase of "Social Media influencers " turned actors/actresses. As well as the change of the landscape for musicians and new talent

Nas X(for instance) blew up during this ingress of Pluto into Cap. And he has Moon in Cap conj the ingress of Pluto in Cap(sidereal). Out with the old, archaic way of doing things. In with the new.

I feel like people who (like me) are finding the pace too fast, will not keep up and can fall behind. The rules of how to make money have changed. Education seems to no longer be the only conventional avenue. Well atleast in my country 🤷🏿‍♂️

I think Pluto ingress to Sag(in 2005/2006 by sidereal) may have changed how society looks at education as well as religious authority over the masses? Look at how sexuality identity has exploded in subsets and labels since the Cap ingress(by sidereal).

And Cap is supposed to be "conservative" in our view? Clearly not. The trans-rights movement and all its attached debates aint stopping its motion. JK Rowling may have started the comments with regards to trans gender rights when her sidereal puritanical Mars was in Virgo squaring then transiting Pluto in Sag.

But it carried over from there and lost her fans whilst gaining her others who share her view. I believe this controversy will continue to make strides during Pluto's ingress in Cap.☝🏿

I found it interesting that the recent Disney movie "The Little Mermaid" ,has drawn so much controversy & opinion
polarization.This even before its official release.🙆🏿‍♂️

This is once again Pluto working at a collective level of changing the "old" and bringing in the new. The previous Ariel(whom I believe has an affiliaton with Aries/Mars coincidentally-the planet of disputes) was Caucasian. Now the current Ariel is African🤷🏿‍♂️

When the movie is released(officially in May 2023), Jupiter will square Pluto. This will amplify the opinions on it.I feel like it is symbolic - especially for people in the US- to confront their racial prejudices (Jup) in a deeper way(Plu).

Either this will change things irrevocably because its likely that more "treasured" Caucasian heros and heroines of the past, will be revisited in the name of change and more inclusivity.

So maybe you had an issue with LOTR series having black dwarves and elves? Brace yourself puritanical white people, I hear " Captain America" is about to go shades darker.Pluto in Cap (sidereal) is only getting started.☝🏿

# sidenote. The Covid pandemic officially "ended" in my country or was announced to be "gone" when Neptune (sidereal) started in Pisces.

And masks as well as all other safety measures followed during the covid period, were scrapped or heavily relaxed all over the country. 🤷🏿‍♂️

Neptune in Pisces is in my sidereal Pisces 1st house. So yes,the effect of Neptune rose coloured glasses has begun too😕

I felt the latter actually. Neptune transit to my Jupiter by square have been sending me all sorts of deep spiritual vibes as well as a higher need to just sleep😶


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posted September 19, 2022 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The people losing their minds over the little mermaid being black, are insane. Same with LOTR. I haven't watched it yet, but I plan to.

When the Hunger Games movie was made, there were people freaking out over little Rue being black. That poor little girl. Star Wars actresses have been run off social media, for the same reasons.

there has been speculation that Charles will scale back the monarchy. There are countries that could decide they want their independence. A commentator said that there was no mood whatsoever, in the UK, to get rid of the monarchy - they haven't spoken to a few of my friends, who would love for them to be gone. A lot of people also saying that we'll never see an event like this again, at least not in our lifetimes.

I'm not sure I want to think about Pluto in Aquarius. I have enough on my plate now, and I don't need anything else to make me anxious. I feel like we already have plenty of fake gurus. I'm not a fan of any guru.

In Iran, some women are protesting, because they want the choice of whether or not to wear a Hijab, after a young woman died from a beating from police. http://www.theweek.in/news/world/2022/09/19/women-i n-iran-cut-hair-burn-hijab-to-protest-mahsa-aminis-death-in-custody.html

We basically have a climate emergency, that some deny.

Republicans got what they wanted (extreme republicans), with Roe being overturned. They've realized that wasn't popular with most of the country, but after saying it should be left up to the States, they now want to pass a national abortion ban, calling it late-term, when fifteen weeks is not late-term. http://twitter.com/principessadi/status/1571523943688990722
A woman was given a pregnancy test, before they would treat her with chemo. If she'd been pregnant, they would have delayed treatment, until after the baby was born.
Another woman said she went for a drug test, for a new job, and when she received the results, was told "you aren't pregnant." they'd given her a pregnancy test, without her permission.
A teenage girl was asked about her last period, when she was seeing the doctor for something totally unrelated to that.

rents and mortgages skyrocketing, pricing people out of formerly affordable areas. There was a tiny home trend, for a while, but I hardly ever hear about them now.

http://twitter.com/NancyHeady/status/1571765513641934849
"My daughter's Dr purposely kept from her that she had ovarian cancer, because she was pregnant. Lost the baby at 5 mos. By then tumors were rampant. Stage 3.She and husband sued for malpractice and won. Lost her life at age 33 because Dr decided to "protect the unborn"on her own."

I really hope this sort of thing is stopped, as soon as possible.

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posted September 20, 2022 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@teasel.

All these stories are just awful. Beating someone to death because they didn't wear a Hijab? Prioritizing the life of an unborn whilst the host suffers Cancer? Tricking people into getting pregnancy tests by disguising the test as one thing. When its actually something else?

Within the context of all this, is the brainwashed masses on patriarchal rule. And its insistence on controlling women. That smells deeply of Cap.

So this Pluto ingress(by sidereal) could suggests that there could be more "open" challenges to long-held strongholds on the divine feminine.And even an outright surfacing of undue and psychologically violent misogynistic power.

Its interesting that in this ingress of Pluto in Cap, trans-people are fighting to be recognized & accepted as females. Whilst in the same breath, there is no equal push to have misogynistic structures that inhibit all existing females , be done away with completely.

At the foot of the above is still the overarching theme that men(in whatever shape or form they choose) still have their needs or wants met before the other sex. Even gay rights are more male dominated abd are about male-male relationships- with the lesbians being an afterthought.

Not yet uhuru.It is still patriarchy 🤷🏿‍♂️

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posted September 20, 2022 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and on families being torn apart because of politics, and that being ridiculous? This is the beginning of what I emailed someone yesterday, when they talked about the arrogance of democrats:

I’m in Ohio. If anyone voted to take my rights away, and continues to believe that it’s a good thing that roe was overturned, I don’t want to socialize with them. They were arrogant enough to vote for that, and to be happy that it’s done. I don’t want them dead, sick, homeless, etc. but they do not get to have me smile, and welcome them into my home.

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posted September 20, 2022 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The same thing goes if they use “woke” as a slur, have an issue with black and Asian people being cast in LOTR, Star Wars, or anything else. Other things I could add, but I have things to do.

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posted September 22, 2022 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecadet42420     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
In sidereal astrology, Pluto has only just started its ingress in Cap. Infact, its ingress coincided with the lockdown regulations imposed by government the world over(including my country).

This is strongly fascinating to me and so I had to sit up and take note. Go back in time to see when each ingress (via sidereal) was made? And what(if any)were the changes on either the national or global scale?


Amazing insight. Glad this sparked some research energy for you. Thanks for sharing!!

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posted September 22, 2022 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecadet42420     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Oh, and on families being torn apart because of politics, and that being ridiculous? This is the beginning of what I emailed someone yesterday, when they talked about the arrogance of democrats:

I’m in Ohio. If anyone voted to take my rights away, and continues to believe that it’s a good thing that roe was overturned, I don’t want to socialize with them. They were arrogant enough to vote for that, and to be happy that it’s done. I don’t want them dead, sick, homeless, etc. but they do not get to have me smile, and welcome them into my home.


Teasel are you aware that "Roe" herself spent the rest of her life speaking publicly and writing books about her deep regret for roe vs wade?

Are you also aware that Roe vs Wade is the the right of protection of privacy and turning it over only gave the power to the states to decide what to do with abortion laws. Which they were already doing. And Ohio specifically had the heartbeat bill for nearly a decade, meaning that roughly 4-6 weeks was the cut off date anyways.

So I'm just confused why you are always speaking on matters that you don't have enough information on. I think you would be a lot less stressed out if you'd stop waiting for the news to tell you how to think and start researching for yourself. No disrespect to you, I'm just saying.

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posted September 22, 2022 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecadet42420     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
The same thing goes if they use “woke” as a slur, have an issue with black and Asian people being cast in LOTR, Star Wars, or anything else. Other things I could add, but I have things to do.

The issue with changing classic media entertainment is that some things should be sacred. There is also a huge issue with media companies trying to re-write history. For example that new movie "The Woman King" which is a true story about Africans selling other Africans into the slave trade. But instead they wrote it as if this group of people were trying to save slaves.


I don't see how anyone can be okay with this 1984-esque re-writing of history. I'm sorry but you don't get to just choose that classic white characters, true stories or not, suddenly need to be black. Call me racist all you want, I'm not and this doesn't make me racist.


Could you imagine if white people, in 2022, decided to take classic stories of noble black people and change them to white people? For no reason other than just to do it? The outrage would be astronomical.

The same applies to taking male-lead movies and tv shows and making them about women for absolutely no reason.


The issue is that everything needs to be a political statement now. Every single new movie and tv show is nothing but a virtue signaling cess pool. You can't just make movies anymore, you have to take a political stance. Even if the movie has absolutely nothing to do with politics. For example the netflix show "You" is about a serial killer, these people are literally MURDERING PEOPLE, but for someeeee reason they had to throw a scene in there where the murdering couple suddenly has a moral compass and decides to beat the **** out of someone for not getting vaccinated against measels.

Do you see what I mean? Its just ridiculous. And like remaking Ghost Buster's just to have a full female cast? Like why? Is it really necessary? Why can't these people ever just make their own media? WHY do they have to rewrite and re-do every single popular media in history.

It wouldn't be an issue if they'd just write their own stories.

This is why the phrase "Get Woke Go Broke" is so popular. Because its true. These companies are making absolutely no profits and are destroying their companies just to virtue signal.


Star Wars has in fact been destroyed by the woke mob.

Like I dont get it, if you guys are all so far up eachothers ***** and all you ever care to hear about is your political ideologies why don't you just write and direct your own stories? Why bastardize media that already exists? Why can't they just be original. Like it really is that simple.
Like its honestly really apparent that some of you are so brainwashed that you can't even watch a tv show or movie that has an actual plot anymore. You just want to watch 2 hours of people saying things you agree with. Do you understand what I'm saying? Like are there even any new movies in the last two eyars that actually focus on the plot and not just random scenes of women being "empowered" with "snarky comebacks" about mansplaining and **** ? like where is the entertainment?

Leftist are quite literally ruining EVERYTHING. I'm sorry but its true. They've bankrupt media companies, they've destroyed classic tv shows and movies, they're trying to rewrite history by doing this and of course that stems beyond just media content, they want tto rip down statues, burn historical factual books, claim that hundreds of years old philosphers were actually "secretly gay or trans" like its just absurd absolutely absurd and frankly disrespectful.

but anyway, there is a reason why none of these videos, movies, tv shows, video games, etc ever make any money and in some cases bankrupt the companies. no one wants to see this **** . people want to be entertained. me and millions like me are sick of the CONSTANT political ideologies being shoved down our throats.

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