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Aries23Degrees
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posted October 15, 2022 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is the gatekeeper of time the villain that we make "them" out to be?

Everytime I have a Saturn transit, i notice that its usually a time where I double down on something. My focus honed into doing somethimg tangible. I feel like I am being "productive".

Transiting Saturn in Cap was in my 10th house in 2018. I started schooling.When it formed a conjunction to my MC,I graduated.

When it was on ny natal T-square, I was writing exams. Trans Saturn opp Moon disciplined my mind to focus. I have trouble focusing because of Moon/Mercury opp and Mercury/ Jup parallel pulling me in all sorts of ways.

With Saturn, there is restriction on excessive mood swings(Moon). Restriction on diverting thoughts(Merc). Restriction on over-estimation(Sun).Restriction on excess spending or gluttony (Ven). Restriction on unfocused energy or discernment of effective tasks to complete(Mars).

You can go on a diet and lose tangible weight with Saturn on your personal planets.

You can complete a book that you have long been postponing.

You can decide to get married/have a kid or start a company etc.

What do you all think?

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posted October 15, 2022 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don’t think any planet is out to “punish” us. I like the Vedic interpretation of Saturn as a “karmic teacher”. It addresses issues that we struggle with and where we need to persevere to overcome our own internal roadblocks. It is also then when we get the greatest rewards.

I have my Saturn conjunct Mars and it can be difficult for me to start new projects or to assert myself. I can be very insecure about what other people think of me when I do something I have never done before. But it’s been very rewarding when I’m actually going for it. Once I start, I don’t give up and I will finish whatever task I have invested myself in. It can be frustrating but rewards will come once you have gone through the rough part of the journey.

Transit Saturn in Aquarius has been squaring my Taurus stellium for a while now. The divorce has been difficult at times but I know that it will get easier. Until transit Pluto comes along and I’ll find out about all the issues that are still lurking in the dark.

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posted October 16, 2022 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@PlutoWasHere.

Thanks for sharing that. ❤.

I have a colleague who is soldiering through her divorce. Saturn is on her Sun/Mars in Tau.

I think Saturn (in her case) has made her more gutsy about knowing her competence and worth.

She applied for a position that she didn't think she'd get as a "dare" from someone. And she got it.

This took her mind off of her divorce and gave her the opportunity to start afresh in a new city ❤

Uranus is yet to hit the Sun/Mars conjunction though. Big changes ahead 🙏🏿

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posted October 16, 2022 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lamplighter848     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With Saturn conjunct pof, I suppose it’s worked out in my favor to accept that being patient comes with its rewards. Lessons unfold as they should…At a time I am ready to comprehend them. It’s just a matter of not fighting the current when that time approaches. Saturn/pof is in my 5th, trining my spirit in the 9th (5 degrees from my Mc) and sextiling my karma/fortuna in the 3rd. I noticed the delayed expectations of my life have provided me unique opportunities to appreciate them on a new level once I do experience them. Sometimes life’s greatest joys come in unexpected packages.

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posted October 16, 2022 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I first started learning astrology, I used to dread Saturn transits. I hated the challenges Saturn brings and I just felt like it made my life more difficult than it already is. I used to blame what seemed like bad situations on the planets, especially Saturn, Neptune, and Pluto. But now, I realize exactly what you said. Saturn helps us be more realistic in our approach to things and make our dreams more tangible. I guess in a way, this is why Saturn is good to have in the 11th house as well as the 10th.

Saturn transited mine and my fiance's 8th house recently and things got even more difficult at that time. We both were faced with the fact that we were our own worst enemies because we had so much bad habits that we made excuses for. Those bad habits were simply a way to escape rather than deal with the fact that we both let ourselves down. Having to face the truth as well that we were also not good to others just as they were not good to us. I personally remembered the times where I wasn't a good friend to someone, how I wasn't a good sister, partner, etc., and how I've tried to make it seem like I cared when I really didn't. Kinda ****** , but Saturn there shows you who you really are, not just your good side.

This transit is almost over for me. I think Saturn has one more go and then it will leave. I've definitely learned to be more honest with myself about myself.

On top of that, I have Saturn trine my natal Mars right now. I definitely "got to work". Graduated from school, started a job in my new field of work, and looking more into gaining new skills through courses.

I also agree Saturn does tend to restrict the energy of the other planets. The softer aspects definitely make the integration of Saturn much easier from my own observation.

Like for example, I have Saturn sextile Jupiter. I'm definitely someone who knows my limits when it comes to pleasures. I know when I've had enough to drink or when I need to get back on track with my productivity. I know someone on the other hand, has Saturn square Jupiter. Despite having a lot of Capricorn influence, he has trouble knowing his limits. Definitely a lot of work to be done on his end and I feel like it won't be until later on in life til he learns. Another friend has this same aspect and he has gotten arrested a few times for speeding.

I'm not too mad about Saturn transits anymore, even the hard aspects. I've learned give this planet the respect it deserves. It's the parent who looks out for you, even though they seem very harsh.

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posted October 17, 2022 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally I usually love the structure Saturn can bring. The facing timing and getting things in order, he's anything but chaos. Yet my transit recently, he restructured my jaw, mouth bones and teeth.
It was very uncomfortable. Luckily someone reminded me of an all purpose remedy. I'm much better! Hopefully the worst is over.
Back to Saturn, he is very useful with getting things done or obstacles managed. I don't see him as all bad. Every situation is different though.

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posted October 18, 2022 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't stand Saturn rx square my moon sign transit. When it was direct I've had to think/move/do fast as shite hit the fan. Now I feel like I can process how traumatized I am.

Anytime someone just feels cursed, they should just look at their astrology transits. The rx Saturn moon square has me feeling like I've done something in my past to deserve things not going as planned.

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posted October 18, 2022 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lamplighter848:
With Saturn conjunct pof, I suppose it’s worked out in my favor to accept that being patient comes with its rewards. Lessons unfold as they should…At a time I am ready to comprehend them. It’s just a matter of not fighting the current when that time approaches. Saturn/pof is in my 5th, trining my spirit in the 9th (5 degrees from my Mc) and sextiling my karma/fortuna in the 3rd. I noticed the delayed expectations of my life have provided me unique opportunities to appreciate them on a new level once I do experience them. Sometimes life’s greatest joys come in unexpected packages.

Indeed👌🏿

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posted October 18, 2022 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
When I first started learning astrology, I used to dread Saturn transits. I hated the challenges Saturn brings and I just felt like it made my life more difficult than it already is. I used to blame what seemed like bad situations on the planets, especially Saturn, Neptune, and Pluto. But now, I realize exactly what you said. Saturn helps us be more realistic in our approach to things and make our dreams more tangible. I guess in a way, this is why Saturn is good to have in the 11th house as well as the 10th.

Saturn transited mine and my fiance's 8th house recently and things got even more difficult at that time. We both were faced with the fact that we were our own worst enemies because we had so much bad habits that we made excuses for. Those bad habits were simply a way to escape rather than deal with the fact that we both let ourselves down. Having to face the truth as well that we were also not good to others just as they were not good to us. I personally remembered the times where I wasn't a good friend to someone, how I wasn't a good sister, partner, etc., and how I've tried to make it seem like I cared when I really didn't. Kinda ****** , but Saturn there shows you who you really are, not just your good side.

This transit is almost over for me. I think Saturn has one more go and then it will leave. I've definitely learned to be more honest with myself about myself.

On top of that, I have Saturn trine my natal Mars right now. I definitely "got to work". Graduated from school, started a job in my new field of work, and looking more into gaining new skills through courses.

I also agree Saturn does tend to restrict the energy of the other planets. The softer aspects definitely make the integration of Saturn much easier from my own observation.

Like for example, I have Saturn sextile Jupiter. I'm definitely someone who knows my limits when it comes to pleasures. I know when I've had enough to drink or when I need to get back on track with my productivity. I know someone on the other hand, has Saturn square Jupiter. Despite having a lot of Capricorn influence, he has trouble knowing his limits. Definitely a lot of work to be done on his end and I feel like it won't be until later on in life til he learns. Another friend has this same aspect and he has gotten arrested a few times for speeding.

I'm not too mad about Saturn transits anymore, even the hard aspects. I've learned give this planet the respect it deserves. It's the parent who looks out for you, even though they seem very harsh.


Yes. I agree with this. Saturn transit to my 9th was important. It was the eradication of false beliefs ☝🏿

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posted October 18, 2022 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Personally I usually love the structure Saturn can bring. The facing timing and getting things in order, he's anything but chaos. Yet my transit recently, he restructured my jaw, mouth bones and teeth.
It was very uncomfortable. Luckily someone reminded me of an all purpose remedy. I'm much better! Hopefully the worst is over.
Back to Saturn, he is very useful with getting things done or obstacles managed. I don't see him as all bad. Every situation is different though.

Yes.

I managed to complete my qualification when Saturn was in the 10th house. It was a time for me to focus on something that will enhance me as a person. It was actually a happy period (despite it also being a financially lean period)

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posted October 18, 2022 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stawr:
I can't stand Saturn rx square my moon sign transit. When it was direct I've had to think/move/do fast as shite hit the fan. Now I feel like I can process how traumatized I am.

Anytime someone just feels cursed, they should just look at their Astrology transits. The rx Saturn moon square has me feeling like I've done something in my past to deserve things not going as planned.


Really? I would think Saturn on Moon would limit the whole "woe is me" type of thinking which has one go up/down emotionally.

What was Uranus doing at the time?

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posted October 19, 2022 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Really? I would think Saturn on Moon would limit the whole "woe is me" type of thinking which has one go up/down emotionally.

What was Uranus doing at the time?


I really think it's the retrograde energy. Plus Saturn is retrograde in conjunction to my Mars making me all physically backwards I suppose.

When it was direct Uranus was between 14-19 degrees. Activating my Nodes mc/ic moon/pluto/lilith neptune/uranus

I will say though, I have reached out to a lot of friends...helps take me out of it a little. I also have friends confide in me that they are depressed. I'll have a week of social highs and then isolated lows.

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posted October 19, 2022 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would look at that Uranus on Moon/Pluto. Pluto tends to erode any superficial feelings of being "safe" and can create a great deal of anxiety in the process of assessing what feelings and emotions are worth retaining from those that are worthless and should be discarded etc.

However,the "anything that can go wrong does go wrong" energy is very Uranus ime.But then again , I haven't really studied the differences between the retrograde energy of Saturn with when it goes direct.

I think of Saturn as the energy that gives one the presence of mind to cope with the curve balls of life(including Uranus). It negates and minimizes panic.

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posted October 20, 2022 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I would look at that Uranus on Moon/Pluto. Pluto tends to erode any superficial feelings of being "safe" and can create a great deal of anxiety in the process of assessing what feelings and emotions are worth retaining from those that are worthless and should be discarded etc.

However,the "anything that can go wrong does go wrong" energy is very Uranus ime.But then again , I haven't really studied the differences between the retrograde energy of Saturn with when it goes direct.

I think of Saturn as the energy that gives one the presence of mind to cope with the curve balls of life(including Uranus). It negates and minimizes panic.


I certainly got my fix of whatever can go wrong will go wrong!
It's funny that after what I have been though that I can be at a place to have gratitude. The kid across the hall just screams. But at least they pick a reasonable time to do it.

This place actually does regular pest sprays!

I wonder if Saturn helped me not act upon my insanity. Round two of Uranus oppose moon though we'll see....!!! I'm sure I'll have a lot more energy with out Saturn here. But I am very blessed that I am in a place where I can overall just stay put and process with lots of privacy.

I use to love Saturn retrograde, it felt like a break. But maybe because I've matured, I hate the retrogrades and slow downs now.

I'm kind of excited for Uranus to retro, because it will conjunct my Mercury one more time. One last dose of being liberated in my communication. But once Uranus is around 14 degrees it gets painful because of the curve balls that alter the direction of my life.

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posted October 20, 2022 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lamplighter848     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I just realized my post was a bit neener-neener.
Saturn is a bit more comfortable atm moment than Pluto.

When you have Pluto swooping in on the coattails of Saturn, you kinda feel like your showing up to the wh**e house with whiskey d**k.

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posted October 26, 2022 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stawr:
I certainly got my fix of whatever can go wrong will go wrong!
It's funny that after what I have been though that I can be at a place to have gratitude. The kid across the hall just screams. But at least they pick a reasonable time to do it.

This place actually does regular pest sprays!

I wonder if Saturn helped me not act upon my insanity. Round two of Uranus oppose moon though we'll see....!!! I'm sure I'll have a lot more energy with out Saturn here. But I am very blessed that I am in a place where I can overall just stay put and process with lots of privacy.

I use to love Saturn retrograde, it felt like a break. But maybe because I've matured, I hate the retrogrades and slow downs now.

I'm kind of excited for Uranus to retro, because it will conjunct my Mercury one more time. One last dose of being liberated in my communication. But once Uranus is around 14 degrees it gets painful because of the curve balls that alter the direction of my life.


I think Saturn helped you not to act( as you put it) on your "insanity"🤣. I find that things become crystal clear with Saturn. Hence maybe that's why Saturn is associated with "crystallization" of things?

But it's not an "epiphany" like the Sun. It's more of an acceptance of what needs to be done vs. What would be preferred.

So if working a low paying job to help make ends meet is the only sure employment one can get. Accept. Maybe there are no jobs available? So you have to cut back on spending and focus only on the necessities? Adjust.

Saturn is about making peace with where you are. And not wishing you were elsewhere. This can be hard to do for people who actively want to always keep moving. Saturn transits can definitely feel very stifling for Cardinal signs in particular.

The last job was very much like this. Jupiter Aqua was sextile my Asc/Jup and trine Mars. So that was an opportunity to earn liquid gains (Jup in House 11).

Saturn was in 11th sextile my Asc/Jup trine Mars when those liquid gains abruptly ended. And I was back to budgeting and watching my money again.

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posted October 26, 2022 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lamplighter848:
Sorry, I just realized my post was a bit neener-neener.Saturn is a bit more comfortable atm moment than Pluto.

When you have Pluto swooping in on the coattails of Saturn, you kinda feel like your showing up to the wh**e house with whiskey d**k.


🤣. What a visual.

I thought your last post was fine. And it's tough to be positive and optimistic with Saturn transits. It just feels forced to be anything outside of who you are right now.

So if you are whiskey d**ck at that wh**e house,then so be it🤷🏿‍♂️ Atleast you showed up.

The thing with Saturn transit is that one most certainly feels that emotional nudity/ being raw may be socially "inappropriate". But its where they are.

I find i smile less with trans Sat/Ven natal current energy. People ask if I am mad? And it's not that I am "mad" or unimpressed etc. But a smile feels oceans apart from where I am. I am not sad.But I am at that middle point between a smirk and indifference.

So it looks like I am mad. I am not. But I am not about to be Mary Poppins or Barney "the Dinosaur" so that others are more "comfortable" around me. NO☝🏿

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posted October 26, 2022 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I think Saturn helped you not to act( as you put it) on your "insanity"🤣. I find that things become crystal clear with Saturn. Hence maybe that's why Saturn is associated with "crystallization" of things?

But it's not an "epiphany" like the Sun. It's more of an acceptance of what needs to be done vs. What would be preferred.

So if working a low paying job to help make ends meet is the only sure employment one can get. Accept. Maybe there are no jobs available? So you have to cut back on spending and focus only on the necessities? Adjust.

Saturn is about making peace with where you are. And not wishing you were elsewhere. This can be hard to do for people who actively want to always keep moving. Saturn transits can definitely feel very stifling for Cardinal signs in particular.

The last job was very much like this. Jupiter Aqua was sextile my Asc/Jup and trine Mars. So that was an opportunity to earn liquid gains (Jup in House 11).

Saturn was in 11th sextile my Asc/Jup trine Mars when those liquid gains abruptly ended. And I was back to budgeting and watching my money again.


Thank you for putting it like that. I feel like I am not coping well, and doing what I need to do and not what I want to do has gotta be the culprit.

Uranus and Saturn both splitting over different direction in the degrees of my Scorpio stellium. Feels like I'm getting beat up, and like I need an exorcist.

I think I am going to take a break from drinking.

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posted October 26, 2022 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries23Degrees and Lamplighter making my day again!

I am a very photogenic person, but I have been less photogenic for a few months lately. Lots of closed mouth photos. More than usual.

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posted October 27, 2022 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thank you for putting it like that. I feel like I am not coping well, and doing what I need to do and not what I want to do has gotta be the culprit.

Uranus and Saturn both splitting over different direction in the degrees of my Scorpio stellium. Feels like I'm getting beat up, and like I need an exorcist.

I think I am going to take a break from drinking.


I have Plu, Sat, Ven in Sco in house 8. Though I must add it is not as dizzying as having a transit touch the cardinal grand kite formation. There have been changes.

Every time that Saturn transits, there is usually Jup or Uranus not far behind.This to seemingly "contradict" what Saturn is trying to do.

I think if you come from the vantage point that all energy works in unison towards a certain end goal. That even when we think there is a "paradox", the inherent interaction of the energies themselves are not at odds. Then we come to realize that the only person resisting this flow is US.

Universal laws have no contradictions. The Only "contradictions" are the ones we see. This especially if they(from our perspective) do not serve our subjective point of view.

Take for instance a situation that is sudden and unexpected. Maybe your business isn't making paper anymore and you are forced to close it doors?

You move back home with family to live with your Mom and Dad to lick your wounds and try to sort out what the next move for your life is whilst feeling very sorry for yourself because of a "lost" dream etc.

6 months later, you turn on the news to learn that due to heavy rains in and around the area, your beloved former restaurant collapsed under a sink hole- leaving many residents in the surrounding areas homeless.

What you realize then is that on the surface, Uranus was disruptive to your life. But in actuality, it was a blessing in disguize.

Maybe you were planning to invest more into the business but were diswayed by some intuitive impulse to not use your savings and just cut your losses(also Ura). So instead of losing thousands.You would have lost millions. And perhaps involved in long drawn-out legal issues with insurance companies and other stakeholders in trying to get them to pay up etc. Very stressful.

Add to that you also realize that the Saturn transit was also helpful. You moved back with your older parents (Sat) who still had the means and wherewithal to help take care of you.

You didn't sink into abject hopelessness and started entertaining suicidal thoughts. You didn't develop health issues. Saturn is the clear headed thinking that keeps our feet on the ground and our heads low so as not to personalize things too much.

It is easy(without Saturn) to think that thinks are "happening" to us. This especially with Moon-Nep or Moon-Pluto transit. And on that outlook, it will appear that the Universe is conspiring to "get us".

Saturn however reminds us to eat, sleep and maintain mental clarity in crisis situations or where there is disaster. For Saturn is very much about the body and keeping a rational perspective I.e. hungry people or those who dont get enough rest , often act irrationally.

And Uranus often averts us from further loss by making swift changes that at 1st blush appear "random" and "inconvenient". But are(in the long term) quite beneficial.

Both energies in the above example were working simultaneously.And neither "negating" the other. As Uranus is the feeling that "the ground is shifting"

But why would the ground be shifting? Uranus doesn't do things just for the "hell of it". The ground is shifting because a new Earth is being built underneath.

So Saturn will probably inspire you to hold on to your hat and steady yourself for this temporary change. It's not the end of the world (and therefore YOU). It's just the end of THIS world. YOU go on. There is a new one that is being built(Ura).

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posted October 27, 2022 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aries23Degrees and Lamplighter making my day again!

I am a very photogenic person, but I have been less photogenic for a few months lately. Lots of closed mouth photos. More than usual.


It could be that you are still as gorgeous as ever. But because Saturn tends to ground things enormously, the lack of "pick me up" energy from Jup/ Venus can make it hard for us to be kinder to ourselves.

Saturn is rarely concerned with aesthetics. You look in the mirror and see another human being. So long as you are healthy and functional. The rest is unimportant to Saturn.

With Jup/Ven transits however, you look in the mirror and what you see is the most gorgeous, sexy, beautiful and irresistible creation ever known to human existence 😁🤣

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posted October 27, 2022 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn tests your drive. Is this really what you want? Then fight for it! It’s the ruler of Capricorn, the mountain climber, and Aquarius, the revolutionary. Capricorn wants us to endure, to focus on our target and not give in no matter how tough it gets. Where Cancer is sensitive, protective and indirect, Capricorn is tough and does not take any detours. Aquarius knows sacrifices need to be made for the greater good. It will ruthlessly cut out that what is no longer needed. These are not small cosmetic changes, it will go to the core principles that guide you and demand accountability.

@Stawr, I can see from your posts you are having a tough time right now. Please don’t fight the questions that Saturn and Uranus are addressing. Don’t fall for distractions like alcohol. Maybe there is someone that can help you find some answers, like a therapist or a trusted friend? This period offers an opportunity to look at the things you find really important in life, your purpose, your beliefs, what you are willing to fight for. Please take good care of yourself and allow yourself the time and energy to make this investment in yourself.

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posted October 27, 2022 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Saturn tests your drive. Is this really what you want? Then fight for it! It’s the ruler of Capricorn, the mountain climber, and Aquarius, the revolutionary. Capricorn wants us to endure, to focus on our target and not give in no matter how tough it gets. Where Cancer is sensitive, protective and indirect, Capricorn is tough and does not take any detours. Aquarius knows sacrifices need to be made for the greater good. It will ruthlessly cut out that what is no longer needed. These are not small cosmetic changes, it will go to the core principles that guide you and demand accountability.

@Stawr, I can see from your posts you are having a tough time right now. Please don’t fight the questions that Saturn and Uranus are addressing. Don’t fall for distractions like alcohol. Maybe there is someone that can help you find some answers, like a therapist or a trusted friend? This period offers an opportunity to look at the things you find really important in life, your purpose, your beliefs, what you are willing to fight for. Please take good care of yourself and allow yourself the time and energy to make this investment in yourself.


Thank you. I am starting to see a turn around. I listened to my intuition and have been eating a lot of watermelon. I am stating to see improvements. I've had piles the entire month. Husband got me some quality ice teas from Whole Foods too. I did it, I did not drink last night. Drinking can help me sleep sometimes. But I feel like my insides are so dehydrated that I need a break.

I really think I should talk to a therapist privately. I've stank at keeping in touch with people lately. I just don't want attention, I complelty ruined my sleep schedule too. I got it back on track today, since I took two edibles at midnight.
In the meantime I talk to a therapist with my husband. I've really only told 3 people about my issues. But it's heavy, I think I really need to talk it out with a pro.

If there is ever a time to burn through all my candles, I think that time is now. Going to the New Age store today, to stock up on ammo. lol

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
It could be that you are still as gorgeous as ever. But because Saturn tends to ground things enormously, the lack of "pick me up" energy from Jup/ Venus can make it hard for us to be kinder to ourselves.

Saturn is rarely concerned with aesthetics. You look in the mirror and see another human being. So long as you are healthy and functional. The rest is unimportant to Saturn.

With Jup/Ven transits however, you look in the mirror and what you see is the most gorgeous, sexy, beautiful and irresistible creation ever known to human existence 😁🤣


I regretted wearing my Spanx leggings out. They suck in the gut. Not ideal when recovering from piles.

Coulda shoulda woulda just wore husband's sweat pants. Why do I try to get cute for eating at Buffalo Wild Wings?! lol

Wearing a prairie dress tomorrow.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I have Plu, Sat, Ven in Sco in house 8. Though I must add it is not as dizzying as having a transit touch the cardinal grand kite formation. There have been changes.

Every time that Saturn transits, there is usually Jup or Uranus not far behind.This to seemingly "contradict" what Saturn is trying to do.

I think if you come from the vantage point that all energy works in unison towards a certain end goal. That even when we think there is a "paradox", the inherent interaction of the energies themselves are not at odds. Then we come to realize that the only person resisting this flow is US.

Universal laws have no contradictions. The Only "contradictions" are the ones we see. This especially if they(from our perspective) do not serve our subjective point of view.

Take for instance a situation that is sudden and unexpected. Maybe your business isn't making paper anymore and you are forced to close it doors?

You move back home with family to live with your Mom and Dad to lick your wounds and try to sort out what the next move for your life is whilst feeling very sorry for yourself because of a "lost" dream etc.

6 months later, you turn on the news to learn that due to heavy rains in and around the area, your beloved former restaurant collapsed under a sink hole- leaving many residents in the surrounding areas homeless.

What you realize then is that on the surface, Uranus was disruptive to your life. But in actuality, it was a blessing in disguize.

Maybe you were planning to invest more into the business but were diswayed by some intuitive impulse to not use your savings and just cut your losses(also Ura). So instead of losing thousands.You would have lost millions. And perhaps involved in long drawn-out legal issues with insurance companies and other stakeholders in trying to get them to pay up etc. Very stressful.

Add to that you also realize that the Saturn transit was also helpful. You moved back with your older parents (Sat) who still had the means and wherewithal to help take care of you.

You didn't sink into abject hopelessness and started entertaining suicidal thoughts. You didn't develop health issues. Saturn is the clear headed thinking that keeps our feet on the ground and our heads low so as not to personalize things too much.

It is easy(without Saturn) to think that thinks are "happening" to us. This especially with Moon-Nep or Moon-Pluto transit. And on that outlook, it will appear that the Universe is conspiring to "get us".

Saturn however reminds us to eat, sleep and maintain mental clarity in crisis situations or where there is disaster. For Saturn is very much about the body and keeping a rational perspective I.e. hungry people or those who dont get enough rest , often act irrationally.

And Uranus often averts us from further loss by making swift changes that at 1st blush appear "random" and "inconvenient". But are(in the long term) quite beneficial.

Both energies in the above example were working simultaneously.And neither "negating" the other. As Uranus is the feeling that "the ground is shifting"

But why would the ground be shifting? Uranus doesn't do things just for the "hell of it". The ground is shifting because a new Earth is being built underneath.

So Saturn will probably inspire you to hold on to your hat and steady yourself for this temporary change. It's not the end of the world (and therefore YOU). It's just the end of THIS world. YOU go on. There is a new one that is being built(Ura).


Oh man I don't plan on having it all figured out anytime soon in a pleasant way. I'm glad the Saturn transit ends conjunction my Mars.

But it's the Uranus stuff! It will go stationary direct on my nodes, will go back to squaring my 23 degree Mars much later I briefly experienced the beginning of this transit, but ends training my Saturn.

But I'm kind of ready to move on from despair, and being sad and paranoid. Did some witchy dabbling I haven't done in about 6 months, and I think it helped.

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