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Topic: What do you think about Osama Bin Laden chart? I'm surprised he's a Pisces Sun&Venus
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Leo-Cancer98
Knowflake Posts: 1922
From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada
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posted November 14, 2022 02:07 PM
  
I've always heard how Pisces is exalted as a Venus placement. What natal chart factors do you believe inclined him to commit such vile acts towards innocent humans?IP: Logged |
Librapurr
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posted November 14, 2022 03:03 PM
If there’re ideology, religion and politics. It’s often a complicated and questionable subject with many points of views. How do you know it was one person, not some group making a political decision?
The first thing you need to know, he was from different culture and religion. It wasn’t his personal opinion/decision.IP: Logged |
litarot
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From: Santa rosa, RS, Brazil
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posted November 14, 2022 03:07 PM
A Venus in Pisces does not make anyone passive. Remember that Pisces is the sign of illusions, fantasies, the sign that many consider the last stage and evolution, as it is the last of the zodiac. Pisces may seem passive, but it won't always be. All knowledge can be used for good or evil. You have to see his entire map, as well as the rulerships of the houses and planets.IP: Logged |
Librapurr
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posted November 14, 2022 03:18 PM
Pisces is a sign of illusions and sacrifices/ dependency. So it fits with somebody who could be fanatic and do crazy things for religion and ideology. IP: Logged |
DualGemV2
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posted November 14, 2022 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Pisces is a sign of illusions and sacrifices/ dependency. So it fits with somebody who could be fanatic and do crazy things for religion and ideology.
You've just described my former Pisces coworker. He's was originally planning on becoming an engineer then he had a life changing experience that made him closer to religion. He'd write math proofs proving/disproving religion in his spare time. This intrigued me, I think he liked me be because I was the only person in his corner that could sorta understand. He tried to do get a graduate professor to supervise his research into the connection of dark matter and the hand of god, said he had the math proof. I'm doubtful of that claim but still kept and open mind. My Planets
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teasel
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posted November 14, 2022 04:34 PM
I’m not. Anyone can be a zealot. It just depends on what’s behind it. I’m not going by sign at all. Over the weekend, one area in Arizona had a group of people demanding that the military step in and re-do their election, because it just had to have been stolen by democrats. The woman they support, has said the entire time, that if she loses, it’s due to democratic meddling. I don’t even know if it’s her ego, or the sheer audacity knowing that some driven mad by conspiracy theories, would believe her. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted November 14, 2022 05:26 PM
Also, I have a Pisces mars, and I don’t do well with acceptance or surrender. Acceptance also depends on the situation, but surrender? Never. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere
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posted November 15, 2022 01:03 AM
“The road to hell is paved with good intentions.”I think no one can cause more harm than the person that is driven by the idea that they are doing good. I believe that he thought he was doing “god’s work” while those he was fighting were “evil”. So in that way all that Pisces makes sense. Delusional and a willingness to give up everything for the “cause”. He also had Leo Pluto square Taurus Mars, he probably had anger issues and easily felt challenged by other people. Maybe he even actively looked for these type of challenges because his Sun opposite Jupiter would look for succes to feed his ego. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
Knowflake Posts: 4934
From: Portland, OR - USA
Registered: Oct 2011
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posted November 16, 2022 10:39 AM
Notice the data is rated 'X' at astrodatabank. Check the source notes for why. http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Bin_Laden,_Osama IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa
Knowflake Posts: 760
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posted November 16, 2022 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
“The road to hell is paved with good intentions.”I think no one can cause more harm than the person that is driven by the idea that they are doing good. I believe that he thought he was doing “god’s work” while those he was fighting were “evil”. So in that way all that Pisces makes sense. Delusional and a willingness to give up everything for the “cause”. He also had Leo Pluto square Taurus Mars, he probably had anger issues and easily felt challenged by other people. Maybe he even actively looked for these type of challenges because his Sun opposite Jupiter would look for succes to feed his ego.
And saturn in Sagittarius pointing to karma regarding his ideologies. Jupiter in fall in Virgo. Mars in detriment conjunct the South Node. Mars in detriment or fall it's very common in charts of people that have some anger issues, issues with women, many rap singers, or misogynists have this placement. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted November 16, 2022 02:39 PM
Pisces Venus is complicated, just like any other placement in this sign. As for Bin Laden, I suggest watching this video from the Joe Rogan podcasts to get a wider view of the actual geopolitics:
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kani
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posted November 17, 2022 08:47 AM
Why are you surpised? There are numerous serial killers who have significant Pisces placements. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted November 17, 2022 10:32 AM
Having Venus in Pisces myself I can't believe he's a Pisces Venus. There has to be something else in his chart. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
Knowflake Posts: 4934
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posted November 17, 2022 07:33 PM
Notice the data is rated 'X' at astrodatabank. Check the source notes for why. http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Bin_Laden,_Osama[/b] IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 24, 2022 12:16 PM
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Belage
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posted November 24, 2022 08:23 PM
According to that chart at Astrodatabank, providing it is correct, he has Sun, venus and Mercury in Pisces, BUT he also has Saturn in Sagg squaring this Pisces stellium...I think that is significant and would modulate the positive effects of Pisces. For any ruler or leader, Saturn could be considered the most important placement... IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted November 24, 2022 08:41 PM
Also Pisces Venus in a man chart could indicate an attraction toward women who sacrifice themselves or allow themselves to be used one way or another. It could signify involvement with women who are easily manipulated or victimized. Jeffrey Epstein has Venus in Pisces...Actually, he has Venus conjunct Mars in Pisces. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 02, 2022 10:43 AM
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