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anevolena
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posted November 18, 2022 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anevolena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all,

Recently I've been pondering the 12H-9H, Pisces-Sag square.

I have this square strongly in my natal chart- my 12H Pisces moon nearly exactly square my Venus, Mars and Pluto stellium in 9H Sag.

The 12H-9H dynamic is very interesting. They are both very spiritual, abstract, philosophical placements. While Pisces may be a bit sentimental for Sag, and likewise Sag is too blunt and carefree for sensitive Pisces, I think the relationship between the two can be very powerful.

I like to think that my 12H moon squaring my 9H stellium means that my intuition, my connection with God is "fueling" my 9H placements to explore higher meaning. As in, my 9H planets are being sent this deeper, spiritual energy from my 12H moon, which manifests as "motivation" or a "purpose" to discover the world.

I think this is a very profound square.


I still feel the challenging effects of the square (for example, the intimacy challenges of Moon square Venus, but TBF I have a Sag Venus...) yet I believe the square in my own chart manifests as an inner DRIVE, something pushing and pulling in me, stimulating my desire to learn the truths of life from an abstract perspective.

I know some others with a 12H/9H square, and they seem to carry this inner wisdom inside. Someone I know with their 9H Moon squaring 12H Venus and Jupiter acts like an angel on earth.

(My SN is also in 12H Pisces, so...)

I want to know your thoughts on the 12H/9H dynamic!

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Aries23Degrees
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posted November 18, 2022 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in 12th square Ven-Mars-Plu in 9th.

Venus is how your lovelife/relationships and contacts tend to unfold. With Mars/Pluto conjunct, there are likely many upheavals and tumultuous changes.

Maybe you attract partners who are intense or disruptive? Or your relationships (even platonic ones) degenerate towards some eventual dramatic episodes and showdowns?

Maybe they have strong religious beliefs/ opinions abput politics or 9th house related matters? So they are not the type to sit back and let things that they don't disagree with go by without them having a say about it.

With Moon in private and "inner peace" loving 12th house, your relationships get in the way of that peace(square). You get dragged inyo the drama or you find that you cant help but fall inlove /open yourself up to it.

You can't have inner peace (12th) when you are busy charging forth & denouncing "untruths".You are inviting oppositional opinions to you. And they stir you out of that private 12th house.

This could also suggest that you are the one who brings the drama to the people in your life that are private and reclusive (12th). Maybe they are shy but you stir them into participating into your world? Your invigorate them in ways that are inspirational but can also be disruptive.

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anevolena
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posted November 18, 2022 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anevolena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries, thanks for your reply!

It's hard for me to say about my relationship patterns. Honestly I've never been in a relationship! So while I can't say my relationships are plutonic, I think pluto is absolutely working on my perception of love.

I've been with guys but have never been in a committed relationship, due to a lot of factors that lead to a huge fear of commitment. I've watched all the women in my family get completely burned, I haven't witnessed a "good" relationship. I was a bit of an ugly duckling, too.

As much as I'd love soft romance, partnership, endurance, I think I am a bit afraid of being trapped in something that I'm not 100% enthusiastic about. As selfish as that is. I don't think I'd settle down unless I met the true Love Of My Life, and I don't know if that exists. I want that to exist though, so I hold out and shut people away to not prevent any potential future opportunities.

I know I'm a "heartbreaker." I know I can inadvertently play with people's feelings. I am a sweet, soft Pisces moon but I am also (humbly) sexy, adventurous, free spirited. That stellium, honestly, makes me magnetic, drawing people to me while I just want to be alone and withdraw.

This sounds so cynical, but it is my inner psyche hahaha. I try not to get involved with guys since I don't want to lead them on. I'm known as very independent, but still soft and dreamy.

So I guess you are right, ha.

I am attracted to guys who are passionate, who have integrity and follow their principles. I dislike superficiality but also dislike intense, smothering "I will die for you" energy. I want to laugh and take it easy with them, no drama. I just want a partner in crime, really. Me and them vs the world.

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Randall
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posted November 27, 2022 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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