posted November 28, 2022 02:57 PM            

I find the men of this sign "macho" and they appear (atleast on the surface level-barring Asc in Aries/Cancer) to be devoid of emotions outside of their own conscious control.

Consider Sylvester Stallone, Tom Cruise, & Vin Diesel. All action movie stars which kinda contradicts the sensitive nature that we often assume is the case with Cancer Suns.

I find Cancer Suns often have a conceptual awareness of what constitute "emotional security " i.e. family, home life, children, tradition, continuity, patriotism etc. And then want to realize these.

It is often the Asc however that will dictate how they go about life from an everyday, incremental, moment to moment basis i.e. if Sun is the "grand plan". The Asc is the tactical actions that may/may not help achieve the grand plan (depending on squares/opp between Sun and Asc).

So since the Asc is instinctive (default), we have no conscious control over the its expression. It is through the instinctive action of the Asc that we get a "reaction" from the environment(Dsc).

With Cancer rising, in this incarnation we are intuitively based. Our body is there to sharpen our ability to "know" ourselves through feeling. This above all else.

Experience (for a Cancer Asc) is felt through a gut level. So its rulership over the stomach already tells us that whilst Aries goes "head" first, Cancer (on the other hand) goes into life gut or "stomach first".

The first instinct with Cancer Asc is always to "feel". Tears of joy/ pain are not too far from the surface. The native is really a world of emotions. But often the face will change (as the phases of the Moon) from sadness to gladness, to elation, then depression etc.

The song by Cancer Sun Phoebe Snow " Something Real" has a part where she says "we'll cry until its funny. Then laugh ourselves to tears. "

And though this may describe her conscious awareness of Cancer's paradoxical emotions that inextricably bind sadness with happiness( she has Cancer Sun). It more aptly describes imo how this can play out spectacularly on a Cancer Ascendant's physical expressions and face when feeling those feelings.

This is the person who will cry when you tell them that you are getting married. Tears of happiness. But then laugh at the ludicrous nature of an otherwise serious situation i.e. giggling at a funeral for instance.

I am reminded of Cancer Asc, Moon in Taurus Cameron Diaz on "My Best Friend's Wedding". I never know whether to see her as a comic or dramatic actress. When i think she is about to cry in a scene, she laughs. Then when she looks likes she will laugh, she cries.

Also her co-star Julia Roberts (Cancer Asc, Moon in Leo)in the movie "Erin Brokovich". There is a scene where she is heading home after a long day. She is separated from her kids and learns(from her live-in boyfriend who is taking care of them) that her youngest started walking.

She is first happy, then cries. Then she is crying whilst happy 🤷🏿‍♂️ The two mixing quite well for that scene as she is driving.

So Cancer Asc can feel the momentum of feelings (like a child) and experience the whole "tears of joy" or "tears of frustration" thing because verbal articulation is far from reach at that moment

My sister has Cancer Asc/Cancer Moon and Mom always speaks about how quickly she switches from sadness to happiness.This so much that at some point, we believed she was bipolar.

posted November 28, 2022 09:14 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Cancer suns can be just like Capricorns that I know: they will just cut people off, no explanation. Actually, of the cardinals, the Aries I know are the only ones who *don't* do that.
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posted November 29, 2022 08:13 PM            

Sun is lifeforce, so it represents strength. The strength of the person is found in the Cancerian/lunar mode of feeling, responsiveness, nurturing, intuition, creativity, the cardinal water mode, which can include a lot of things. It is home base for them as a way to put their best foot forward in life and create something original.

The Asc is the framework of the personality being in a body. Personality is the mind, so sensory-emotional sensitivity, tending to be more reactionary on average than Sun in Cancer types; moods and sensitivity to surroundings (Asc/DC = I/thou relating), general receptivity.

Problems in sorting this out can come from looking at people whose charts say they are supposed to be Cancer rising, but are in fact not (most often Gemini, but sometimes Leo rising or even Taurus rising). It skews observations about the Cancerian mode of personality and induces a lot of confirmation bias and wrong conclusions.

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posted November 29, 2022 08:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I think the Sun in Cancer is more conscious in its expression of emotions whilst the Asc is not .

I find the men of this sign "macho" and they appear (atleast on the surface level-barring Asc in Aries/Cancer) to be devoid of emotions outside of their own conscious control.

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Good observation. I agree. It also applies to a hell of a lot of men with Sun in Cancer. My own grandfather is an example. A crusty exterior putting out 'man's man' vibes, but if stressed long/hard enough with something they're not prepared for they can be completely vulnerable and run for safety in whatever tradition or belief offers comfort.

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I find Cancer Suns often have a conceptual awareness of what constitute "emotional security " i.e. family, home life, children, tradition, continuity, patriotism etc. And then want to realize these.

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Yes, I agree. Well said.

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With Cancer rising, in this incarnation we are intuitively based. Our body is there to sharpen our ability to "know" ourselves through feeling. This above all else.

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I agree. I think intuition is the key.

My dad was supposed to be Leo rising according to his birth time, but that couldn't be more obviously wrong. There is nothing Leonine at all about my dad. So years ago, I asked if he could sum up his personality with one word or phrase. He thought about it a little while and said, "Intuitive." That's how I knew my theory of Cancer rising was correct. He also is very much oriented towards home, family, church, stability, security, etc. Very much.

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Experience (for a Cancer Asc) is felt through a gut level. So its rulership over the stomach already tells us that whilst Aries goes "head" first, Cancer (on the other hand) goes into life gut or "stomach first".

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Yes, but what you said about conscious awareness or control applies very much here too. The Cancer rising reliance on feeling below the level of consciousness is also the intuition that they rely on over intellect, or at least verbalized reasoning. Most Cancer rising types aren't good with intellectual dialogue and debate. They absorb slowly and don't generally like to respond quickly. They want to get to themselves and 'think it over', but what they're really doing is tapping into their subconscious, their well of experiences, fears, aversions, priorities, etc, to maintain a comfort level, safety, or security, for themselves and others.

posted November 30, 2022 01:08 AM            

Too bad that I had to move very far away and that he couldn't move his job either. I am sure we would have stayed together for a loooong time. Breakup was haaaaard and tearful for both of us. Sometimes I can't help but wish to be reunited with him forever in a heaven scenario.

My cousin has Aries sun conjucnt his mercury and venus, and his moon is in Capricorn. He is one of the most emotional men and possibly human beings I know. He has rising in Cancer. Women confide in him a lot. His sisters love him. He is also physically very beautiful. Overall a popular guy with friends and family. He recently got married, his wife practically chased him down the aisle lol, which I find common in men who have moon or venus in Aries.

posted November 30, 2022 02:19 AM            

Cancer Moon men are just scared for others to find out that they are softer than they pretend to be. Some may even get aggressive to prove a point.

The moodiness they have (when extreme) is imo as a result of them suppressing or trying to control their emotions and not allowing themselves to just feel.

Being honest with how they are really feeling-instead of being angry, touchy or snappy etc. Is a challenge for many. The vulnerable feelings are undesirable. So some may translate these to defensiveness.

Connor McGregor is an example of this. Moon in Cancer conj Sun. Lots of bravado. Many times , very unnecessary

@Kannon

Is the Asc not devoid of consciousness? Like travelling an unfamiliar road, you don't know where the next bend or turn will be and so you respond on an adhoc "in the moment" way.

I always took the Asc to be "what rises when the need for it comes". And that's usually in uncharted territory or environments where the unexpected is to be expected etc.

For example,as a Sun in Sag I go into new life situations with the intention to be funny. I consider myself the joker and one who spreads good cheer etc. This is what I consciously do. The "I will" principle of the Sun mixed with "be funny/jovial "(principle of Sagittarius/ Jupiter).

Luckily my Asc in Aries is trine my Sun. So it supports this by giving me "in the moment" sharp and cutting (Mars ruled) things to say that can be termed "shooting from the hip" brutal truths etc. Better Midler has this too(Asc on Aries, Sun in Sag).

Admittedly, it has gotten me into trouble a few times. Sometimes I am funny and at other times some may think i am offensive. But that is not the intention (Sun). If I am Scorpio Sun(Mars) then perhaps I would intentionally be rocking the boat and even offensive 😏

But with the trine of the Asc in Aries being the "enabler", what I say off the cuff(Asc) is outside my conscious control. I am in a state of "being" not thinking.So what I say comes out and then I go "I can't believe I just said that" who.

Had I had Asc in Cap(for instance), the first instinct would be "Don't". Because of the Saturn influence, I would likely (because of my default Asc) be the type to have a first reaction of stoicism or delayed response. This because Saturn is not "off the cuff".

So others may experience me as "cautious","serious" or "calculating" etc. Because of my constantly pensive looking face that seems "thoughtful". But it's not my doing. And perhaps i am not thinking at all.

posted December 03, 2022 04:28 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
One of my best relationships was with a man with Cancer Sun and Cancer rising. He was older and very very considerate. It was my longest relationship too. I had satisfaction on all levels and those were the happiest years of my life despite a lot of work pressure.

Ohh, Aries Venus men prefer to be chased?
Too bad that I had to move very far away and that he couldn't move his job either. I am sure we would have stayed together for a loooong time. Breakup was haaaaard and tearful for both of us. Sometimes I can't help but wish to be reunited with him forever in a heaven scenario.

My cousin has Aries sun conjucnt his mercury and venus, and his moon is in Capricorn. He is one of the most emotional men and possibly human beings I know. He has rising in Cancer. Women confide in him a lot. His sisters love him. He is also physically very beautiful. Overall a popular guy with friends and family. He recently got married, his wife practically chased him down the aisle lol, which I find common in men who have moon or venus in Aries.

Then there are men with moon in Cancer. I tend to distrust and avoid them. And women with Cancer sun or AC just altogether rub me the wrong way too. I am fine with female moons in Cancer.

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