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SleepyDiary
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posted November 27, 2022 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First they act all Down to Earth and chill but after a while there is a certain arrogance that start showing imo. I think deep down they often think they are more intelligent than other people.

Like MoonMystic said in another thread

‘’imo, Virgo moon. They believe they are right more often than not and aren't shy to point anything out they feel is incorrect. They are easily convinced they can't be wrong.’’

This is exactly how i have seen some Virgo moons behave too. Sometimes i feel like they have a hard time putting themselves into another person’s shoes unless they agree with you.

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posted November 27, 2022 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly, yes. I thought it was his Venus in Leo but no. Virgos are the one to dissect everything and feel righteous while doing so. This is the moon placement I'm speaking of and maybe not all of them. The whole chart does have to support it.

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posted November 27, 2022 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Honestly, yes. I thought it was his Venus in Leo but no. Virgos are the one to dissect everything and feel righteous while doing so. This is the moon placement I'm speaking of and maybe not all of them. The whole chart does have to support it.

Virgo moons with some fire influence are more obvious with it almost from the get go but i feel it’s common with this placement with or without fire. They like to come off intelligent and will use these ‘’big’’ words that are rarely used by anyone that people get caught up on and they are usually very articulate too but they let it get to their heads. Sometimes when they speak too they look and even sound arrogant and sometimes condescending.

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posted November 27, 2022 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Honestly, yes. I thought it was his Venus in Leo but no. Virgos are the one to dissect everything and feel righteous while doing so. This is the moon placement I'm speaking of and maybe not all of them. The whole chart does have to support it.

Maybe it is just me, but I feel like all the astrological sign characteristics show themselves the strongest in the moon sign.

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posted November 27, 2022 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Maybe it is just me, but I feel like all the astrological sign characteristics show themselves the strongest in the moon sign.

It’s not only you that are seeing this i have been saying this for ages the moon is a VERY strong influence in a person’s chart and anything that touches it will have a strong influence too. I’m shocked this planet isn’t seen as the most prominent influence in a natal chart and people keep bringing up the Sun which i have seen many times has been a weak influence in a person’s personality unless another personal planet is in the same sign but even then if the Moon is different from the Sun the Moon will take over sooner or later. The Sun is supposedly your ‘’identity’’ and ‘’who’’ you are i think which has been inaccurate so many times. The Sun sign is so easily overshadowed by other influences even by aspects it receives from other planets that i’m so surprised this planet is considered a ‘’prominent’’ influence.

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posted November 27, 2022 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@SleepyDiary

Sometimes I think western astrology needs major revisions. I am not a vedic expert but I know in Vedic asrology your moon sign and even degree play the biggest role in your destiny. A couple of years ago I binged watched KRS videos on youtube, and based on a free ebook he used to have (and maybe still does) I did some predictions for myself mostly career and settlement. They ended up being correct, eventhough his method only involved the moon sign, aspects and locations as far as I remember.


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posted November 28, 2022 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@SleepyDiary

Sometimes I think western astrology needs major revisions. I am not a vedic expert but I know in Vedic asrology your moon sign and even degree play the biggest role in your destiny. A couple of years ago I binged watched KRS videos on youtube, and based on a free ebook he used to have (and maybe still does) I did some predictions for myself mostly career and settlement. They ended up being correct, eventhough his method only involved the moon sign, aspects and locations as far as I remember.


I agree totally it needs some changes👍 Like for example also when it comes to aspects they need to stop putting just horrible attributes to the hard aspects because many times i have seen people with for example hard Neptune aspects displaying the positive side of Neptune too while those with the Trines and Sextiles barely show any qualities of Neptune both good and bad. And if the Trines and sextiles are so great why are explanations for these aspects always so much shorter when we read about them in synastry or natal compared to the hard ones? You will have a whole side about how the hard ones functions but with the easy ones you lucky if you get five sentences.

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posted November 28, 2022 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think most times its insecurity. Not confidence. Anytime someone borders on arrogance, they are really insecure.

Moon is what makes us feel emotionally secure. It is imperative for our mental well-being to be supported, loved and have our experiences validated (Moon).

Esoteric ruler of Virgo is the Moon. And the earth element of the Moon wants to "ground" things as far as possible i.e. extract the abstract from the tangible. Sort the bull 💩 from the factual and synthesize all to have it make "sense".

In their attempt to do the above, the Virgo Moon will edit and sharpen its focus on consistency and logic on what is subjectively experienced.

The issue may be when they decide to do an "audit" on how others experience the world. And can(like Sag) fall into the trap of telling others that their experience of the world is "wrong" and "let me list the many ways of how wrong you are..." etc.

Virgo clients (esp with Asc, Moon or Mars there) can be the worst for me. Because they'll often dwell on the semantics and words I am using-instead of the general idea.

I.e. "I wouldn't say I am an angry person per se. I am just easily irritable " OR "I don't hate my mother. I just don't like her with a passion " etc.

If you talk to a Virgo Moon specifically. And your grammar is out of whack from the get go. They will be too distracted about the many "wrong" steps you took up the hill to understand the view you get from the top.

I used to tell my ex to focus more on what i am saying. The overall point of where i am going. Get clarity on that. Rather than arguing if "but" or " nor" was placed in the right sentence whilst telling my story etc.

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posted November 28, 2022 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought that was Aquarius Moon lol. My mother is a Virgo Moon and she doesn't use big words. But she's critical and things have to be done a certain way.

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posted November 28, 2022 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

If you talk to a Virgo Moon specifically. And your grammar is out of whack from the get go. They will be too distracted about the many "wrong" steps you took up the hill to understand the view you get from the top.

I used to tell my ex to focus more on what i am saying. The overall point of where i am going. Get clarity on that. Rather than arguing if "but" or " nor" was placed in the right sentence whilst telling my story etc.


This is why i have always thought they seemed too shallow and insensitive for my Watery moon. People keep saying Virgo moons notices everything but to me it’s more surfaced leveled unimportant things than the deeper more hidden sides of people. I don’t get why this sign is good with Water because they find our sensitivity annoying and we find their insensitivity annoying. The biggest reason i keep hearing is because they can ground us but they lack a deeper understanding of our emotions and why we run so deep and are so sensitive about all kinds of things. This to them is childish, embarressing and annoying. They are the ones that get irritated that you are still heartbroken about something and think you should have been over it within the first week of getting your feelings hurt. They are the ones that make you feel like you need to keep your emotions in so you won’t make them feel uncomfortable. They are so different from Water moons and treat emotions too much with their brain. I find them too ‘’masculine’’ in their ways. Even worse if they have other placements in less sensitive signs too or have Saturn afflictions in their natal and if they are the more masculine less emotional planets in synastry.

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posted November 29, 2022 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgo moon here, not really. If I am arrogant, it is because someone else has acted arrogant despite being incompetent and I feel like I have to take charge to match their energy.

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posted November 29, 2022 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m also a Virgo Moon and I agree with Aries23Degrees that this energy shows most when I’m stressed. It’s not about being arrogant but about what makes you feel secure. When I’m tense, I can’t stand chaos, it will make me see danger everywhere. I will try to create structure for safety and might be critical of people who are “in my way”.

Virgo is the sign of service. Virgo tries to bring order and structure because they’re convinced the earth will explode in a flaming ball of chaos and everyone will suffer if they don’t help. It’s not easy being a Virgo Moon. 😁

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posted November 29, 2022 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This is why i have always thought they seemed too shallow and insensitive for my Watery moon….

There are rotten apples in every batch, so maybe you ran into some challenged Virgo Moons. Or they trigger some of your own issues (maybe some Pisces or other mutable placements in your natal?). Other than that, earth signs take a long time to open up. They are sensitive but they don’t like showing their vulnerability until they feel they can trust you.

Earth sets boundaries for water so it can flow with direction and water makes the earth soft and fertile. Without water, earth is dry and hard. Without earth, water runs everywhere and is wasted. It depends on someone’s natal chart how easy it is for them to accept the elements they lack. It’s not always a smooth ride together with your complementary signs. That’s why the 7th house isn’t just the house of your marriage partner but also your open enemies.

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posted November 29, 2022 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heyyy Girly! 🦋 Happy Holidays!

TBH I'm not crazy about Virgo energy in general. It's just not my jam! Lol. But I do have respect for them. 👍🏾 I don't know many Virgo Moons but I am able to tolerate them a little better than Virgo Suns. When the former gives me advice, it comes across a bit more nurturing. So I'm able to recieve the info without feeling overly criticized.

**Example**

Virgo Sun: "Why did you all eat that?? I told you what it would do! So stupid. No one listens to me."

Virgo Moon: "Guys try eating this. Plenty to share. It made me feel like a million bucks! I know it will help you as well, dear."

Regardless though... Virgo Peeps DO always think they are right. 😂

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posted November 29, 2022 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There are rotten apples in every batch, so maybe you ran into some challenged Virgo Moons. Or they trigger some of your own issues (maybe some Pisces or other mutable placements in your natal?). Other than that, earth signs take a long time to open up. They are sensitive but they don’t like showing their vulnerability until they feel they can trust you.


Yes this is true. But they didn’t have a challenged moon so much but their Venus which is how you show affection and care was challenged which i think intensified the Virgo moons less sensitive ‘’hard’’ approach to things. They are sensitive about certain things yes but like you said they like to keep it inside which can get tiresome because they can deny things that sometimes are really obvious because they don’t like to show vulnerability. I am a Neptunian woman with a 12th house moon so might be why their approach to things is not my cup of tea.


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posted November 29, 2022 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Heyyy Girly! 🦋 Happy Holidays!

Hiiiiiii been a while Lovely good to see you 🥰

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posted November 30, 2022 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have known at least three people really well who have Moon in Virgo in their birth charts - my dad and two close friends.

In general, at some it will come up that with some things they think there is a right way to do it and will insist on it from you or do it themselves. Being a Virgo rising personality, I don't find this too bothersome most of the time.

"Arrogant" is not a descriptor that I'd apply to all of them. Two of these people are unrelated and born on the same day (Aquarians) and were born when Moon was conjunct Pluto, one male, one female. These two Aquarians' charts were virtually identical, except for their places of birth (and probably the precise aspects to Asc/MC). The female was not in any way arrogant. She was the picture of an open hearted free spirit. The male has significant magnetism and ability to draw strangers into interacting with him. He could be not only arrogant, but privately racist - but still outwardly polite to all people most of the time.

He had anger issues and despite being a bit of a germaphobe was not big on personal hygeine. A sense of superiority (intelligence, etc) to some degree. Tendency to isolate and withdraw. Bachelor. She had anxiety/depression issues but a positive health consciousness. Great sense of humor about herself, usually even when down. No detectable sense of superiority. Married and had a family.

We Virgo types can be both humble and arrogant. It is the contradiction of many souls developing while being human beings.

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posted December 02, 2022 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think your natal chart gives you a good idea of the themes in your life but what you do with the energy is up to you. It’s when two people get the same education but still come out with different levels of skills and a different experience. Two people with the exact same birth chart will still be two different people but with certain parallels.

So can Virgo Moons be really arrogant? Yes, but so can other Moon signs. But their arrogance will probably be flavored with their Moon qualities. The definition of arrogance according to Merriam-Webster: “an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner.”

With Virgo Moon this is likely about perfectionism, being critical and very detail oriented. But with their opposite sign, Pisces, there could be arrogance with regards to spirituality, emotional sensitivity and martyrdom.

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posted December 06, 2022 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see the ones I know this way. But I also have 6th house moon so maybe I'm biased. They can tell it to me straight, like 99 percent of the time with out me losing my temper.

They are some of the most self sufficient people I've ever met. My best friend is a powerhouse, but has really bad anxiety the whole time.

My second cousin has this moon. She is still a middle schooler and she has this OUTSTANDING work ethic that is better than spoiled zoomers from well off areas joining the work force. She is not old enough to join the work force but would blow these 19 years olds out of the water with how much she loves to be helpful and master new skills. She has a great family that encouraged her. Grandma's and great grandma's included. Her dad has this moon too. So he was very big on raising his kids to be eager and helpful to others.

Okay one time I did date a Virgo moon. He liked dancing. He is from the Philippines and thought it was appropriate to ask if I would ever loose weight.
What's with these Virgo men thinking that is ever okay to say anything about the person's to a love/dating interest!? Like I'm attracted to you, but you need to loose weight. wtf. A lot of Virgos can be weight bullies to others I notice. But definitely not all of them.

The two I am close with who have moon here are body positive.

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