posted December 07, 2022 01:17 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
With Pluto in the 3rd, I'd say don't read too much into what others say. remember that your thoughts can get self-destructive. Watch out for negative self-talk. Although what you sense is usually true. So trust your emotions and thoughts about others.

Pluto in the 4th, I have it in natal and it is alright. I would suggest minimizing neighbor contact, or moving to a bigger home or change your settlement status in anyway that can add more privacy. You will need a lot of it.

Also don't panic about being alone at home. Remember that you're always protected by invisible forces (God, angels, saints, etc).

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posted December 07, 2022 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by bella_taurus:
What a wonderful post!

I’m a Aquarius Rising (@ 12’28”) and Pluto has been in my 12th house for what seems like FOREVER and a day. I went in Astro-Seek.com to see when she waltzes into my 1st house and it seems like she’ll be in my 12th well into 2024! Am I calculating it right? I’m pretty sure Pluto has been in my 12th since about the late ‘00s? is there another way I can calculate it?

Thanks!

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I use whole sign. So Pluto(to me) would move into your 1st house when Pluto goes into Aqua. But there could be urgent issues with identity/self assertion/self knowing etc. That needs addressing when Pluto conj your Asc degree for sure.

posted December 07, 2022 01:25 PM            

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Originally posted by chocogold:
@Aries23Degrees

Should we also take our MC ruler and other aspects to our own natal pluto? How analytical should we be without becoming overwhelmed?

I would appreciate your insight.

My MC (2 degrees) and mars (23 degrees) are in aqua in the 10th house.
Saturn rules my MC and I have saturn in the 7th.
Also, I have venus conjunct pluto in scorpio in the 6th house.

What will be impacted? My career (10th), my job (6th house) or my relationship (7th)? Confused.

Also, ever since I was a child, I have always felt that I am meant to be a public figure. I am accomplished but I have never been able to stay at one place of work for more than two years and, I came to the realisation that I need to be my own boss. Every time I quit a job, I find another one just to sense this voice telling me that I am not doing what I should be doing.

This year, my boyfriend and even some of his friends said that I should consider using my skills and doing something more public/online/social media.

Yet, I have never had a social media account, and being out there unsettles me--I am a very private person and, I fear being rejected, ridiculed, people scrutinising my personal life, etc. Basically, I have not done anything to start this project.

I even asked horary charts whether I should start this project and I was given an affirmative answer however, my faith in horary charts has diminished.
Now, someone else who looked at my chart said that since almost all of my planets are above the horizon, I am meant to be 'out there.' Have you heard something similar?

I just know that I feel like I prefer working behind the scenes (because I fear exposure) but I should challenge myself and do the opposite, that I am meant to be a public figure and, I wonder if pluto in the 10th is the catalyst that will push me toward that.

I do not know if this is my moon in 1st house talking, which is described as enjoying public attention or my 7th house placements (as I have also felt that I would become important/public through my spouse) but whatever it is, I wonder if these are my own biased thoughts or the universe trying to tell me something.

What do you think? Thank you.

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Your questions are valid.

Planets that are fixed will be of increased importance with Pluto in Aqua. This from a general perspective.

Those that are conjunct/square/opp by orbs will be very potent and felt with more urgency. Like being pressed to pee and needing the bathroom NOW!

So the Mc at 2degrees is the 1st to be hit. And that's potent. And depending on where Sat(ruler of the Mc) is, will affect the career once transited by another planet there.

Looking at Pluto square Plu(assuming that it's Sco) , I would look at the Sco cusp. The transit of Pluto in Aqua may remind you of your soul agenda. As there is something about Pluto that forces us to be naked and get to the crux of what really matters.

I don't know if you watched "Lord Of The Rings"? There was scene where Gandalf died. Then came back as Gandalf "the white"- more resolved than ever to complete his mission..

I see this as Pluto square natal Pluto. It's the "reset" button. The realization of "oh yeah, where was I again? Now I remember". Distractions tend to fall away and one becomes increasingly 'single minded' in their approach. Less susceptible to distractions like never before.

So the conjunction of Pluto to Venus *ruler of the 6th* will give renewed strength there.

Maybe there is a health condition that surfaces? Diabetes? Something that needs a lifestyle rehaul and more engagement in your everyday health.

Or perhaps the job issue you spoke of that needs more clarity. Knowing details of what it is that you want to do and committing yourself to planning your life more accordingly towards that end.

Whatever it is, there is something about Pluto that will say to you 'wake up. Life is happening NOW. Zone in or clock out. But you can't stay as you are" etc.

Look to Plu conj Mc from what I wrote. Though you are a private person, the momentum of Pluto will compel you(I kid you not) to get out there and be seen.

It won't be about vanity. Nor trying to be a fame w***. But it's the knowing that your time has come. Your name is being called and "if you don't stand up
Nobody else will" etc.

I don't think that people with planets above the horizon necessarily want fame or aim for public prominence. But it seems "called to them" or attracted to them in some way unavoidable. This regardless of how private they are.

posted December 07, 2022 01:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Thanks for posting this.

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posted December 07, 2022 01:55 PM            

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
Great to know thanks 👍

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posted December 07, 2022 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
I am not super fixed energy but I can say it's been a roller coaster year. Rising and Mercury are it for me, but Taurus rules 6th and 7th, and Scorpio rules 12th and 1st. Those are definitely the houses I have seen the most struggle with. Some good, too... but a lot of challenges. Odd numbered years have historically been rough for me, so heading into 2023 I will maintain awareness, but aim for the best possible outcome.

My daughters both have more fixed energy and it has been a rough year for them, one more than the other. The older one has fixed mars, mercury, Venus, and she is really struggling with her health and depression. She takes on a lot of projects but it comes at the expense of her responsibilities and her own wellbeing.

My younger one is just going through a lot of ups and downs this year, similar to me. Friend groups changing, she got a job she enjoys, she is getting her license but it's been a struggle, ... navigating life but it's been harder than it needed to be in many respects.

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posted December 07, 2022 07:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes❤

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posted December 08, 2022 01:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
And depending on where Sat(ruler of the Mc) is, will affect the career once transited by another planet there.

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Please clarify.
As in, depending on the planet of my Saturn or the planet ruling my saturn?

For example, if someone has saturn in pisces. Should they look at Pisces, their Saturn, or the saturn ruler, Jupiter?

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I don't know if you watched "Lord Of The Rings"? There was scene where Gandalf died. Then came back as Gandalf "the white"- more resolved than ever to complete his mission..

I see this as Pluto square natal Pluto. It's the "reset" button. The realization of "oh yeah, where was I again? Now I remember". Distractions tend to fall away and one becomes increasingly 'single minded' in their approach. Less susceptible to distractions like never before.

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It won't be about vanity. Nor trying to be a fame w***. But it's the knowing that your time has come. Your name is being called and "if you don't stand up Nobody else will" etc.

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Exactly, it has nothing to do with vanity or wanting attention. It is hard to explain.

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I don't think that people with planets above the horizon necessarily want fame or aim for public prominence. But it seems "called to them" or attracted to them in some way unavoidable. This regardless of how private they are.

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She never wrote that we aim for that but the following: "please note that practically everything in your chart is above the horizon, which means all your energy having a high profile. In spite of you feeling that being up front isn't really you, the chart gives good potential for this."

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Your Moon rules your 3rd house of Cancer *if Asc in Tau* . So your emotions tend to play a huge role in how you process information and think. Be careful of those who instill fear and self doubt in you. Make it a point to deliberately avoid listening to what they have to say🙏🏿

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Thank you.

posted December 08, 2022 04:42 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
2022 has been a difficult year for fixed signs with transit Taurus Uranus, Taurus north node and Aquarius Saturn. Aquarius Pluto is going to make harsh aspects to personal planets in fixed signs. I guess it provides an opportunity to integrate the lessons of this year and under Pluto’s influence we’ll need to go deep.

I think there a going to be changes in world politics as well. I’m a bit worried about China. They have an early Aquarius Rising conjunct Moon. I wouldn’t be surprised if there will be more social unrest.

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posted December 08, 2022 09:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I use whole sign. So Pluto(to me) would move into your 1st house when Pluto goes into Aqua. But there could be urgent issues with identity/self assertion/self knowing etc. That needs addressing when Pluto conj your Asc degree for sure.

Look for declinations too.The declination of Aqua @ 12Deg

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Thank you Aries 23 degrees!

So is whole sign the way to go?? I really like my transits better with the whole sign chart. But I don’t see Pluto transitioning my Asc..I could only see Pluto squaring my Sun….and Lilith trine Pluto. Did I calculate it correctly? Thanks!!!

posted December 09, 2022 12:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Pluto conjunct my MC currently. And what I can discern from the transit is the increased awareness of where I am vs. where I want to be.

I have never been one to care for position, hierarchy and power.But now suddenly I am more aware of that. And added to that, are feelings of jealousy for those succeeding whilst I feel like I am standing still.

Pluto opp Ic may result in severance or distance with close/private ties because Pluto conj MC is the increased attention or focus on career matters. This at the expense of more private relationships (Ic).

So home may be abandoned or related domestic commitments cancelled? Maybe a distance from the homeland(when outside the country) , Mom/Dad or roots? The desire to steer away from things that are "too close to home"? etc.

Whilst Plu conj Ic opp Mc on the other hand, may preoccupy oneself with domestic issues. Maybe the passing of a significant relative that changes family dynamics? OR the birth of someone significant to you, clarifies what is really important for you emotionally?

So there may be an increased desire to connect with ancestry and bloodline. To purge past hurt/childhood issues for a fresh start. To revamp the home/buy a new one. Or even to move from one country to another in order to find a more meaningful place to call "home".

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Thank you for being so honest about your experience.

posted December 09, 2022 02:12 PM            

...As in, depending on the planet of my Saturn or the planet ruling my saturn?For example, if someone has Saturn in Pisces. Should they look at Pisces, their Saturn, or the saturn ruler, Jupiter?

Look at transits to Saturn. If Saturn is in Sagittarius for instance, mutable transits will influence how the career life will be.

So transuting planets in Sag, Gem,Pisc and Virgo are important.

If someone has Saturn in Pisces, they look at transit planets in Pisces, Sag, Gem and Virgo.

In the above case, Neptune and Jupiter in Pisces are currently influential. As is Mars retro in Gemini as well as the current Sag planet transits .

These will intensify in effect and impact the closer they get to the degree where natal Saturn is placed.

So many people (generations of people) will go through this, however. How significant will this be for an individual overall?

So many people go through death. True. But the question is how do you handle it when it affects you? Because you are not "many people". The effect of Pluto square Pluto will impact the house where natal Pluto is placed.
If Pluto is in 7th house, the way you view relationships will shift. If Pluto is in the 8th house, the way you view or experience the feelings surrounding crisis will shift. If Pluto is in the 3rd house , how you feel about communication and what you read or hear will shift etc.

With Gandalf is was a renewed sense of purpose(I suspect Plu is in his 10th).

I don't think that people with planets above the horizon necessarily want fame or aim for public prominence. But it seems "called to them" or attracted to them in some way unavoidable. This regardless of how private they are.

This was a random thought that was disjointed from what the Astrologer you spoke of was speaking about. At the time, I was reading an article on the 7th house house and why its termed the 2nd "public house" and thus "above the horizon".

I was looking at the birth chart of a locally popular celeb who has a majority of planets in the 9th/10th and 11th. She is so shy its cringe! But people can't seem to get enough of her. Pluto is currently transiting her 7th.

Interestingly, Katie Holmes has ALL her planets below the horizon. But when Dawson's creek aired, Uranus was transiting her 7th and catapulted her to fame- starting a very public life

She married Tom Cruise when Neptune was transiting the 7th house- continuing on that momentum.

I suspect Pluto transit to 7th will push her back into the limelight somehow.

posted December 09, 2022 03:01 PM            

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Originally posted by bella_taurus:
Thank you Aries 23 degrees!

So is whole sign the way to go?? I really like my transits better with the whole sign chart. But I don’t see Pluto transitioning my Asc..I could only see Pluto squaring my Sun….and Lilith trine Pluto. Did I calculate it correctly? Thanks!!!

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I use whole sign because it makes sense to me. Other people prefer placidus. It depends on the person concerned and none are "wrong". It just boils down to what makes sense to you.

So if we use whole sign, Pluto will be in the 1st house when it is 0Aqua. Because in whole sign, house 1 begins at 0 Aqua. However the Asc degree will linger within the 1st house and be independent of the Aquarius cusp 1st hpuse cusp.

So (in a way) it's treated as a "make-shift" planet. And the transit of Pluto getting closer to it, will intensify the issues of identity (perhaps even a crisis therein) that the initial Pluto in 0 degree Aqua started. This because the 1st is one is about identity or the health centre.

Uranus 0 Aries started in 2011 and ran up to 2018. When it went to 0Aries in 2011, issues surrounding my ability to be "Me" started to surface.

I went through a period of feeling alienated and "out" with others. As if I stood out in some way discernable and (to me at the time) undesirable. It was a lonely period.

The identity issues intensified when Uranus hit my Asc at 20Aries. That changed ny famuly structure and roots.

But in the same instance, Neptune started in Pisces in 2010 and is still ongoing. So that also affected my identity too (with Uranus) because Neptune was affecting my Sun. And still is.

posted December 09, 2022 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
Thank you for being so honest about your experience.

I know it will feel extra intense with my Scorpio stellilum in close degrees.
Sounds like the perfect midlife crisis.

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posted December 12, 2022 05:48 AM            

When Pluto started in my 10th house, I was a fresh-faced University graduate with high hopes and dreams. Dreams that had (at their core) a belief that people within my work environment would help me realize the best person I could be. The person that I was born to become etc.

They did exactly that tbh. But NOT in the way that I expected. Because whilst I expected mentorship and guidance, I got power plays and backstabbing. Whilst I expected the helpful transfer of knowledge and skills from superiors, what I got was a resistance to share those skills and knowledge for fear that they (superiors)would become obsolete to the company. Which then lead to me scraping through the workplace through my own devices.

The career world was a far cry from what I expected. And now when I see graduates all bright eyed and bushy tailed, I am both envious and sorry for them.

posted December 12, 2022 10:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes❤

I hope that all will be well eventually ❤.

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Thank you Aries!

Also, this is helpful Girl! I have Pluto about to g into my 3rd and I already feel a heightened sense of intuition. I think it's due to Pluto being sextile my ASC and opposite my Sun, but now it will enter my 3rd. I will keep this advice.

For someone with natal pluto in the 4th, your comment about don't be afraid to be home alone....

my daughter has natal Pluto in Sag in the 4th, with 4th ruled by Scorpio. She is not afraid to be home alone, but she is seemingly afraid to be alone - she jumps from one relationship to the next. I never connected this, and now I am wondering if this natal placement is at play. She is still young, so it's possible she is showing her 4th house? Her DSC is conjunct Uranus, so that doesn't help if she is looking for stability.

Anyway, thanks for the mental stimulation! I needed that new perspective.

posted December 15, 2022 02:11 AM            

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Thank you Aries!

Also, this is helpful Girl! I have Pluto about to g into my 3rd and I already feel a heightened sense of intuition. I think it's due to Pluto being sextile my ASC and opposite my Sun, but now it will enter my 3rd. I will keep this advice.

For someone with natal pluto in the 4th, your comment about don't be afraid to be home alone....

my daughter has natal Pluto in Sag in the 4th, with 4th ruled by Scorpio. She is not afraid to be home alone, but she is seemingly afraid to be alone - she jumps from one relationship to the next. I never connected this, and now I am wondering if this natal placement is at play. She is still young, so it's possible she is showing her 4th house? Her DSC is conjunct Uranus, so that doesn't help if she is looking for stability.

Anyway, thanks for the mental stimulation! I needed that new perspective.

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posted December 15, 2022 08:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Is Uranus in square aspect to Pluto?

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For my daughter? No. Natal Pluto in mid to late Sag, and Uranus is early Pisces. So not in natal nor in transit.

posted December 15, 2022 04:52 PM            

Aqu is my 2nd house, and also its ruler conjuncts my Asc.
Right on the cusp of Aqu, I have anti-vertex which lightly touches my Jupiter (just under 2deg). Jupiter is also my chart ruler btw.

For the last few weeks, I’ve been experiencing weird lucks with the job market. I’ve been on a hunt for a new job and been asked to book many interviews all of a sudden. Got a small contract offer too. Maybe it’s the Pluto in works.

However, I’m expecting my life’s long goal opportunity that may take place next year and I will find out about that right when Pluto enters Aqu (Mar-Apr 2023), i.e. where my anti-vertex and Jupiter is. So is that a good sign? I can’t tell.

posted December 15, 2022 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Thank you Aries!

Also, this is helpful Girl! I have Pluto about to g into my 3rd and I already feel a heightened sense of intuition. I think it's due to Pluto being sextile my ASC and opposite my Sun, but now it will enter my 3rd. I will keep this advice.

For someone with natal pluto in the 4th, your comment about don't be afraid to be home alone....

my daughter has natal Pluto in Sag in the 4th, with 4th ruled by Scorpio. She is not afraid to be home alone, but she is seemingly afraid to be alone - she jumps from one relationship to the next. I never connected this, and now I am wondering if this natal placement is at play. She is still young, so it's possible she is showing her 4th house? Her DSC is conjunct Uranus, so that doesn't help if she is looking for stability.

Anyway, thanks for the mental stimulation! I needed that new perspective.

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Stone,