posted January 09, 2023 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Aries23Degrees,interesting information and worth pondering to deepen our understanding of Astrology.
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There could be increased sensitivity that you feel towards friendships I.e. feeling like the connections you have are not deep enough. Or the friends are not there for you/prioritize you as you do them. So ties may be severed or some friends alienated during this period.
I find it fitting that the op has decided to pursue their hopes/dreams/wishes. Which is also a 11H domain.
I'm guess Pluto's thing is to throw the baby out with the bathwater? One thing must die for another to birth? All or nothing?
Maybe our challenge is to resist this impulse and take a more measured approach (if possible). Keep the friends and pursue dreams.
That should keep Pluto happy, surely. Friends can be taken as resources, after all. Although this conflicts with the purest (11H) sense of friendship. So maybe that's not possible and it is one or the other!
There is a sense (with the 11th house) of being part of the "collective" think. The "We" outlook tends to be strong. This as resonance with collective ideals
or "group think" are highlighted.
An example is when one identifies with a clan /group i.e. " I am black, male ". So the identity merges with what the societal collective thinks about the "black,male". But not as the individual "Joseph" etc.
So the exaltation or degradation of the said group may affect the individual profoundly. This especially when Neptune is there. It can affect them from a cellular level. This to a point where they find it difficult to extricate "Joseph" as an individual , from that which the societal collective concludes about "black, male".
In this instance, the inability to differentiate will show itself up when a discussion on "black, male" is had. The person will not enter as "Joseph". But as "black, male" through which "Joseph" reacts i.e. the individual is subservient to the collective identity.
And if someone says "black males are dangerous ". The individual will automatically translate that to mean "I am black. And I am male " therefore "I (Joseph) am said to be dangerous ". Thus take offense to the statement and get angry. This because the distance from the statement as a description of the collective is so none-existent, that it is assumed or seen as a description of the personal "self".
So Plu in 11th may break this identity with the collective apart. This so that one goes back experiencing life as an individual. Not as a mascot for the collective i.e. racial statements will affect them less because they'll be able to distinguish between what bitter people think of the collective. But have no bearing on them as an individual i.e. as Joseph,I may be a " black male". But I can't control what others think of "black males". So I will go back to something I can control. Me as Joseph 1st. And black /male 2nd ".
This is someone who may not react to the "N" word or 'F" word because they recognize it as a tool use to trigger and subjugate them through group think trauma. They are not that. They are themselves.
This may be revolutionary for them as the word will no longer have power over them. But before this happen, there is usually a profound occurence or realization that occurs to break tgem away from the charge.
Maybe they see the leader of a much loved "Black empowerment" group hold very racist views of their own clan or associates? Maybe they form a friendship with someone of a different clan/race that shatters long-held false beliefs of what the intentions of the"opposing" group/clan are.
Whatever it is, it will polarize (Plu)them from their own group (11th) and cause an identity crisis i.e."if these are no longer my beliefs. Why am I here? Why am i supporting these groups? Why am I friends with these people?"
As Belage said;"I have lost many acquaintances and friends due to fact that my political and spiritual positions have evolved. However, I have also gained a whole slew of better fitting friends and acquaintances who are filling my life with joy, growth, support and camaraderie. It's all good!"
Sometimes, when your ideas evolve abd threaten the continued existence of "group think", you can either be "cast out" or "drift away". This happens over time because perhaps the "group think" is no longer on par with you? Or you find continuous distance from them?
Whatever the reason, detachment will gain traction. Maybe finding yourself in a new group altogether or having no group at all and being a "loner"?🤷🏿♂️
For people who have always revered group mentality or identified themselves as crusaders of "group think" whether as advocates, activists ie specialists etc. This time may prove pretty traumatic. As they find their past identity progressively separating from the emerging one.
Whether its LGBTQI activists joining conservative groups. Or conservative group members aligning with LGBTQI interest groups etc. We find Pluto doing a "flip flop" and turning things downside-up.
The movie "American History X" is a great depiction of Pluto transiting house 11. The character realizing that his puritanical beliefs were not shared by the group that he fought so hard to advance the interest of.
So out if that realization, the "convictions" faded away, he changed as a person. And distanced himself away from the group(including removing his "White Supremacy" tattoos).
He lost friends and associates in the process. Was even betrayed by his own members who violated him. But nevertheless (as Pluto insists) once the truth is revealed , the only way forward is changed. Things cannot go back to ho they were before. Not ever☝🏿
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