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Davy333
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posted December 06, 2022 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Davy333     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all.. Curious how it may manifest if the ascendant is square its ruler. I have Cancer Ascendant, square its ruler Moon in Aries, 11th house. Curious how that plays out?

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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 08, 2022 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon square Asc suggests an inability in expressing emotions openly or being uncomfortable with it when asked to.

Anytime the ruler squares the angle it rules, it suggests that there is a certain level of dissociativeness that happens. Like a child exiled from their family.

The native may feel at odds with whatever the planet represents, in this case the Moon is home. So there could be a dissociation with home I.e. living away from home, homeless drifter, estranged from family/ home country or simply "cut off" from the feeling side of the psyche etc.

Perhaps the native will feel that showing their more tender nature makes them unsupported or "exposed" to others. Like their vulnerabilities make them appear "weak" or "irrational". And not a source of strength.

Typically when the emotions of sadness or more gentle ones are expressed, they come out in an awkward, erratic or compulsive way. As if far removed from the person concerned.

If Aries is Asc, Moon in Cancer(like me) or Cancer Asc, Moon in Aries(you), they typically don't want to appear "soft". There is a defensiveness there because they often feel easily threatened. This especially males.

The home environment for these folks may have been tense or violent. They didn't grow up feeling calm and peaceful at home. One/both parents may have been someone irritable or erratic. So they grew up with defences up because of threatening attack that could come at any time-unprovoked.

Part of their ongoing healing is releasing the learned tension within because it plagues them throughout their adult life.They become a lot more 'reactionary'(Moon) in relationship and assume an attack to defend oneself from and can(unknowingly) alienate others who wish to get close to them.

These people often earn the reputation of being "prickly" , difficult to get to know or "anti-social" . Some may even stay single for longer periods in their lives(when other aspects allow). Because they simply refuse to let anyone get close enough to them to sustain a relationship.

Strong sexual feelings and impulses followed up by sudden detachment and severance is often suggested by the square aspect that involves Aries/Cancer energy of Moon/Asc. They run from the very intimacy they crave-which can add to frustration in matters of sex and intimacy.

I often think that with women, this aspect may manifest in a different way. Maybe they attract or are attracted to a man who is "macho" and rejects their vulnerable side or sees it as "weak"? etc.

Drawn to a partner who doesn't want to acknowledge their(woman's) feelings and calls them "manipulative"? Or the type to roll their eyes when they(the woman) gets emotional etc. Thus reiterating the lack of emotional support they(the woman) grew up with from their parents, on to their partner etc.

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Belage
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posted December 08, 2022 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you tend to have issues with the way you look, your appearance?

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toolazyformynorthnode
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posted December 16, 2022 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for toolazyformynorthnode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I happen to have almost the exact same condition as the OP, but the Aries moon is on the 10th not the 11th. And, conjunct Mars.

It is a very uncomfortable way to navigate the world, like having no skin, and always feeling like you have to justify yourself for everything, or asking to be forgiven for just being yourself. Always knowing that you are going to **** people off, without meaning to.

I'd very happy and honest expressing my emotions, I just don't like people's reactions to them, I don't feel welcome to do so, and how they can weaponize them to portray me as more volatile, vulnerable, needy, childish or unstable than I am.

It does not help that that moon also rules my south node.

Initially, I attributed so many of the issues derived from this position to the moon squaring the Uranus-Neptune conjunction right at the descendant, which means it is actually a square made of 2 conjunctions, plus the angles! But I'm sure this can only aggravate them.

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