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Topic: A look at Mr.Henry William Dalgliesh Cavill 🤔
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10089 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 21, 2022 02:54 AM
Henry Cavill seems to be going through the most. The Uranus transit on his Sun in Tau 14Deg and Moon in Aqua 13Deg is doing tricks to destabilize/rattle his career /professional relationships and consequently is likely creating general unease in his private life.There is the issue with "The Witcher". A fallout involving the writers which was resolved by altogether replacing him with Liam Hemsworth( who ironically also has trans Ura square his Moon Leo/Pluto Sco natal square). Liam has his Sun conj transiting Pluto. So finally we'll see this actor rising from the ground after being in his brother's shadow for so long. Jupiter will likely square his Sun next year and transiting Pluto will conjunct his Venus ***Back to Henry*** Henry has a complicated issue with the Superman franchise and it's subsequent connections with DC Universe that has turned acrimonious. He wants to server ties there too. And now I hear there is the firing of his manager(Dany) who was also "The Rock's" Dwayne Johnson ex wife and manager- which ofcourse will complicate relations between him and Dwayne. Uranus has a way of coming into our lives and initiating many changes all at once. This either to jolt us out of our comfort zone or create a need for more self autonomy. This could happen in many ways ; current relationships could be difficult and feel "stifling". There could be people trying to "manage" us or "handle"us and it feels like a noose around our necks. We could be drawn to the idea of self-governance and move away from environments where people are making decisions for us(this no matter how well-meaning they may be). When on the Moon, Uranus can make us desire emotional freedom or the ability to follow our own intuitive nudges as they come. This is not easy for others to comprehend or control and so it may lead to personal relationships going through a rough patch where people detach/break away from us. However in other cases,it could be that others act unilaterally and don't take our needs into account. Then they become unpredictable / feel unsafe for us and we wish to server ties from them. I hope astrologers are paying attention because his birth time (giving Asc on Aqua) was said to be suspect and currently the transit of Uranus to his Sun/Moon is popping. Transiting Mars in Gemini is arcing to oppose his Jup/Uranus conjunction. Cavill is prickly at the moment. Prone to rash decisions (which is in contradiction to his Sun in Tau nature). Cavill has had the misfortune/fortune of being replaced at the 11th hour for a leading role in a movie(usually by fellow Taurus Robert Pattinson). Or the project being cancelled in its entirety. And this would be in keeping with Saturn Sco angular in house 10 in his whole sign chart. Saturn can be delays/reversals. It can build maturity in the process and readying the individual for that one "career defining" role that makes up for all the others they didn't get. His had to wait a long time for things to kick off in his career. Lots of setbacks and demoralizing instances on the pathway there. He also has natal Uranus/Jup conjunct. And this aspect can have opportunities for growth/expansion appear/disappear very randomly. This includes money, promotion, securing employment or getting favourable opportunities etc. This aspect can have one live life in an unplanned/adhoc way. They can lose . Or they can win. It's unknown how it will go as sudden big gains or unexpected big losses can occur at any point in time. Interestingly, the ingress of erratic Uranus in Tau coincided with his 2nd most beloved character to date - "Geralt of Rivia" in "The Witcher". This has become such an exclusive "Henry Cavill" role , that fans are even threatening to boycott the series because Henry has been replaced by Liam Hemsworth. His role as "Superman" in "Man of Steel" coincided with his Sat return.Infact, the release date was when Saturn was in retrograde motion to conjunct his natal Saturn. Progressed Venus was also arcing to square Plu/Sat natally. His dashing good looks as the caped crusader certainly hypnotized the world at the time. With the listed Asc in Aqua (low rating) Sun would rule the 7th Leo cusp. Sun ruling 7th would make relationships very volatile. Cavill has Sun/Mars conj in Tau and Sun/Moon square. He is a touchy individual and insists on his own way.🤔 Saturn would be his 1st house ruler and transiting Uranus was opposed his Saturn in Sco when he was announced as the lead role for "The Witcher". He also sustained an injury on the set of "The Witcher" on the 14th of December 2020 that (according to him)could have ended his career. And it took longer than expected to heal(Sat). Jupiter/Sat were conjunct in late Cap arcing on squaring his natal Sat/Pluto. The ingress of Saturn in Aqua in house 1 would have had him on crutches. He had to limit what he could do on set to prevent further damage to his torn hamstring.And Jupiter was likely the saving grace that made the injury less permanent. Saturn transits tend to apply caution to us and give us a realistic outlook to what we can and can't do. So this was in keeping with that. And Jupiter is small blessings. Pluto is currently arcing to square his Sat/Plu conj too(which seems to be a very eventful sensitive point). So perhaps these power struggles and standoffs with film creatives are indicative of that too? Sat/Plu can be obsessively (Plu) committed(Sat) to their craft. Putting their bodies to the ultimate test and working very hard to accomplish a project/task. Sat/Plu people can have great stamina and discipline. But they also tend to want to control a lot of what they create. They don't want another to take credit for what they did( naturally). Because they want that sense of autonomy. I am curious as to what Pluto's ingress to his proposed 1st house Aqua will do. I hope he shows himself more. I still find him so "stiff" in his projects. Maybe a dry comedy or something self-effacing will make me see him in a new light?🤔 But nevertheless,I do see Henry insisting on more "creative control " over projects. That Plu square will not have it otherwise. Perhaps this will even factor into his personal life where the partner will definitely know who is in charge.🙏🏿 IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 23612 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 21, 2022 02:31 PM
I saw that, within hours of finding out that he’d lost Superman, too, someone suggested him for another role, and it was immediately made a thing. Amazon is getting people together to make it happen. One thing that I see from a lot of people, is that he’s pretty, but dull. He has the looks, but not the charisma. I know that he loves gaming, and was making bread, and cooking up a storm, in the first year of this ongoing pandemic. He announced a girlfriend in his life, which predictably had fans attacking her, because it should be them, or someone they view as more appropriate. 🙄 IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10089 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 22, 2022 12:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I saw that, within hours of finding out that he’d lost Superman, too, someone suggested him for another role, and it was immediately made a thing. Amazon is getting people together to make it happen. One thing that I see from a lot of people, is that he’s pretty, but dull. He has the looks, but not the charisma. I know that he loves gaming, and was making bread, and cooking up a storm, in the first year of this ongoing pandemic. He announced a girlfriend in his life, which predictably had fans attacking her, because it should be them, or someone they view as more appropriate. 🙄
Lol. He certainly is quite awkward. But i think its shyness. I also caught this very early on with him on "Man of Steel". There is a certain high level of "self consciousness" that Aqua placements can give. And he also has Aqua Moon squaring Sun. So there is always this blatant awareness of how "out" and "different" he is. And this can affect ones ability to project confidence. As one fears ridicule (tantamount rejection) from others whom they'd like approval/ acceptance from. Aqua placements typically can make one very socially "aware" in every context. And the "group think" or "clan mentality" can influence one a lot because Aquas tend to want social acceptance and inclusion. They feel (and sometimes even look) "out" a lot. As a Draconic Aqua Asc myself,I get this sense of "not being like others". And thus being singled out as the "odd" one because I don't fit the mould. Inside , one can feel inadequate and do their best to meet the generic fold of what is considered "acceptable". I recall a lot of instance when younger that had me question and self doubt.This in particular when transiting Uranus in Aqua went into my 1st house Draconic. I felt made fun of because of not being like other boys. It made me feel alienated most times. And Aqua can be very familiar with that feeling of alienation. Some are ofcourse braver. There are likely Mars/ Pluto aspects that ensure that not only do they stand out. But that they invigorate strong feelings on others whether they choose to accept their difference or not. So accepting their "quirks" become liberating for them in this regards. I am surprised he has a girlfriend tbh. I assumed he is likely asexual or borderline aromantic. He barely shows heat for his co-stars in love scenes. He has Mars/Sun/Mercury/Chiron conj in Taurus. My thinking is that Henry is still learning to better assert himself or learn greater confidence in himself? He was bullied as a kid and I doubt his relationship with his brothers was all that great. Mercury/Mars/Chiron conj certainly doesn't make it so. Leo Dsc (if his Asc is in Aqua)suggests one tends to express themselves more aptly in partnerships . Or relationships encourage/enable one to be more of themselves i.e relationships empower them in a way and are thus quite important. In my Draconic chart, this is certainly highlighted. Ruler of my Asc( Draco Sat Leo)is in the 7th house. And Draco Sun (personality) in mutual reception with Sat in Leo in the relationship sign of Libra. His low-key girlfriend actually suits him imo.Because if he is socially awkward, it will not make sense for him to choose someone who will put the spotlight on him or raise his profile to everyone's attention. Asc in Aquas can be quite eccentric and eccentrics aren't always a hit with the public. I looked at Chris Bumstead(Mr Olympia Classic Physique winner) and he looks similar to Henry facially. Not a spitting resemblance. But there are similarities. And I know of an Aqua /Moon in Virgo, Asc in Virgo who reminds me a lot of Henry Cavill. Not by looks but personality expression The Aqua in question is very eloquent. But not vivacious. Prone to social anxiety and awkwardness too. I think this trait of being socially anxious is shared by Aqua placements (this particularly Sun/Moon) because a good friend (Aqua Sun) is also the same. He talks of social anxiety a lot (just like Cavill).He has Aqua Sun, Moon in Pisces. Chris Bumstead (the bodybuilder spoken of) has Sun in Aqua/Moon in Pisces too. The slightly square face Chris has is similar to that of Henry. And often times the Asc person looks close to the Sun person in some aspects. But then again Henry has Aqua Moon. So there is a possibility that the square of fixed Sun sign/Moon interaction may have resulted in his square face? The rest of him is however surprisingly thick.Henry got cakes for days😐. And this "roundedness" is often suggestive of a Moon(roundness in parts)/Jupiter (ruling the buttox) or Venus (subcutaneous fat around there) influence in the chart. IP: Logged |
Sunnya Knowflake Posts: 675 From: Sunnyland Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 06, 2023 04:58 AM
Does the so called girlfriend still is his girlfriend too?He had a lot of friends with benefits so I always thought he had commitment issues. Pluto in Aqua is coming by the way.... IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 653 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted January 06, 2023 07:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: One thing that I see from a lot of people, is that he’s pretty, but dull. He has the looks, but not the charisma. I know that he loves gaming, and was making bread, and cooking up a storm,. 🙄
Haha this is SO true 👍 Sorry to say but he has no charisma, esp as Superman. I don’t know how he is off screen but i saw him as Superman and this man was soooooo dull with so little personality put into the character. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10089 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 06, 2023 08:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sunnya: Does the so called girlfriend still is his girlfriend too?He had a lot of friends with benefits so I always thought he had commitment issues. Pluto in Aqua is coming by the way....
This is not surprising to me. He has Ven/Nep opp. Nep can spread fog all over getting clarity over what you really want when on Venus. On one hand, this lack of clarity can have someone refuse to be tied into any one thing. So they are slippery in love. Fearing confinement or resisting clear definitions of what is really happening. And that's because they can't define it for themselves either. So how can they be able to define it for those outside themselves? On the other hand, it could be an attraction to relationships that feel "distant" in some form.Maybe attract people who are emotionally or physically unavailable to them?They are married? Maybe its an affair that can only flourish in secret?This could actually include a concealed sexual orientation /romantic inclinations that are seen as "taboo" or "clandestine" in nature by others . It could also include an attraction to foreigners or having a long distance relationship. Again here we have limited exposure to the partner.And thus(by consequence) the relationship has no clear definition. Its impossible to "box" or label it in any conventional way. I kinda understand all this. I have Sun/Nep conj with 5th house ruler is Sun. Its very difficult for me to define what i actually want from a partner or define my wants in a clear way when i find one. Privacy is HUGE! The Neptune cover could at 1st have others think he might be gay. Then perhaps asexual. And sometimes even "shady". This is because we try to define Neptune for ourselves. But we can't. And i dont think he can either. So things remain very open-ended. This can provide fertile ground for "friendship with benefits" or secret affairs to flourish. Why the secrecy Cavill? Why the duplicity or lack of openness? Well, Cavill has Sun/Moon midpoint exactly square Neptune. Boom! So Neptune is extremely influential from a both conscious/unconscious point of view. Venus/Mars midpoint is also opposite Uranus 🤷🏿♂️. Nobody gets close enough. If they do, he runs. Or he is unconsciously attracted to those who don't promise anything. Or are distant from him in a way that keeps things from feeling "claustrophobic". There is little to no desire to concretize things with Uranus/Neptune in the mix here. I think its likely that he is drawn to those who are evasive, private, unobtrusive and equally as ambiguous as he is. Their "mystery" will attract him as he will recognize a lot of himself in them. IP: Logged |
Sunnya Knowflake Posts: 675 From: Sunnyland Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 06, 2023 08:39 AM
I think you are spot on, as usual, Aries.I don't really believe that this lady will remain his girlfriend (in the traditional sense of the word). Hope she does for the sake of happiness, but like you say, there's much "fog" in his chart. With his chart positions, I don't even think he has a strong sense of identity or he even knows well himself or what he wants for himself in a partner. Aren't his parents divorced? I always thought that may have played a part on his love life. Edit: He might even be prone to cheat because he is not really the type to settle down in a traditional monogamy relationship. Who knows if even the alleged "girlfriend" was/is a marketing move that backfired? In a way, I feel he wished he could relate to others as we anonymous people can, but at same time, it seems like he just can't either way. Like two sides of him battling. I don't know, there's something indeed "shady" about his love life. And yes, I agree with those who say he seems "dull". I think there's sadness in him. IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 653 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted January 06, 2023 08:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Lol. He certainly is quite awkward. But i think its shyness. I also caught this very early on with him on "Man of Steel". There is a certain high level of "self consciousness" that Aqua placements can give. And he also has Aqua Moon squaring Sun. So there is always this blatant awareness of how "out" and "different" he is. And this can affect ones ability to project confidence. As one fears ridicule (tantamount rejection) from others whom they'd like approval/ acceptance from. Aqua placements typically can make one very socially "aware" in every context. And the "group think" or "clan mentality" can influence one a lot because Aquas tend to want social acceptance and inclusion. They feel (and sometimes even look) "out" a lot. .
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10089 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 06, 2023 09:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sunnya: I think you are spot on, as usual, Aries.I don't really believe that this lady will remain his girlfriend (in the traditional sense of the word). Hope she does for the sake of happiness, but like you say, there's much "fog" in his chart. With his chart positions, I don't even think he has a strong sense of identity or he even knows well himself or what he wants for himself in a partner. Aren't his parents divorced? I always thought that may have played a part on his love life. Edit: He might even be prone to cheat because he is not really the type to settle down in a traditional monogamy relationship. Who knows if even the alleged "girlfriend" was/is a marketing move that backfired? In a way, I feel he wished he could relate to others as we anonymous people can, but at same time, it seems like he just can't either way. Like two sides of him battling. I don't know, there's something indeed "shady" about his love life. And yes, I agree with those who say he seems "dull". I think there's sadness in him.
Absolutely 👌🏿. The "sadness" you pick up is Neptune imo. "Dull" he is because I don't think he knows how he is supposed to be. Here he is (given these incredible looks) and everybody expects so much from him. But he doesn't know what he is supposed to "give". Neptune dislikes pressure. He would like to be anonymous. But his career will not allow for anonymity(Sun-Moon square).And he wants BOTH. I often find Moon/Sun square people tend to have their private life overlap with the public (much to their dismay). They are unable to contain feelings(Moon)and soon their emotionally sensitive natures influence their career decisions (Sun). I dont think Henry enjoys the drama around him lately. Nor can he help catching feelings about it. But with Sun/Moon square aspect,its not possible for him to hide from the world. This no matter how hard he tries. The world will not be satisfied with what he gives them(because it'll appear too limited). So they'll dig and come up with their own answers. He must be mindful that hearsay/rumours often breed scandal. If he continues to be evasive, we'll be ready to believe anything about him. Because we know NOTHING about him. Neptune can do that too.🤷🏿♂️ IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 653 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted January 06, 2023 10:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Absolutely 👌🏿. The "sadness" you pick up is Neptune imo. "Dull" he is because I don't think he knows how he is supposed to be. Here he is (given these incredible looks) and everybody expects so much from him. But he doesn't know what he is supposed to "give". Neptune dislikes pressure. He would like to be anonymous. But his career will not allow for anonymity(Sun-Moon square).And he wants BOTH. I often find Moon/Sun square people tend to have their private life overlap with the public (much to their dismay). They are unable to contain feelings(Moon)and soon their emotionally sensitive natures influence their career decisions (Sun). I dont think Henry enjoys the drama around him lately. Nor can he help catching feelings about it. But with Sun/Moon square aspect,its not possible for him to hide from the world. This no matter how hard he tries. The world will not be satisfied with what he gives them(because it'll appear too limited). So they'll dig and come up with their own answers. He must be mindful that hearsay/rumours often breed scandal. If he continues to be evasive, we'll be ready to believe anything about him. Because we know NOTHING about him. Neptune can do that too.🤷🏿♂️
You mentioned he has some pretty strong Taurus energy in his chart sorry to say but in my experience i find Taurean people to have this dullness about them which can get even worse with Aqua’s detachment in the mix too. Like with Debbie reynolds who was an Aqua Moon and Venus in Taurus she admitted men left her for more passionate women one of those ex husbands actually left her for Elizabeth taylor. But she was an incredible actress with much more charisma than Henry imo
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Sunnya Knowflake Posts: 675 From: Sunnyland Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 06, 2023 11:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Absolutely 👌🏿. The "sadness" you pick up is Neptune imo. "Dull" he is because I don't think he knows how he is supposed to be. Here he is (given these incredible looks) and everybody expects so much from him. But he doesn't know what he is supposed to "give". Neptune dislikes pressure. He would like to be anonymous. But his career will not allow for anonymity(Sun-Moon square).And he wants BOTH. I often find Moon/Sun square people tend to have their private life overlap with the public (much to their dismay). They are unable to contain feelings(Moon)and soon their emotionally sensitive natures influence their career decisions (Sun). I dont think Henry enjoys the drama around him lately. Nor can he help catching feelings about it. But with Sun/Moon square aspect,its not possible for him to hide from the world. This no matter how hard he tries. The world will not be satisfied with what he gives them(because it'll appear too limited). So they'll dig and come up with their own answers. He must be mindful that hearsay/rumours often breed scandal. If he continues to be evasive, we'll be ready to believe anything about him. Because we know NOTHING about him. Neptune can do that too.🤷🏿♂️
I couldn't have said better. Apparently he is to be cast in some Warhammer project? It's all so weird. I had a look at the lady and I found two possible birthdays for her which make her either an Aries or a Sagittarius. She gives me Virgo vibes with her huge glasses, maybe there's some Virgo in the chart. She's pretty but doesn't exude charisma either. While both Aries and Saggie could bode well with his Aqua side, his Taurus will be screaming at some point... And then Neptune, yea Fire doesn't go well with the elusive, unsettling, dodgy.... But of course without her full chart, the data and info we can deduct is very limited. Although I must say, it all seems awkward, maybe it's all normal, but the way even he addresses the relationship on his Instagram and communicated it's all a bit weird. Or someone writes for him his posts with this approval. With Pluto coming into Aqua, I wouldn't be surprised if we find out more about him, his sexuality, his love life, his career direction or lack thereof... Neptune can't dodge Pluto. Hell, even Saturn crumbles its crystallized forms in the face of Pluto.... And like you said, trying to be elusive all the time is breeding scandal... well... Pluto loves a good scandal if the point is to bring transformation into any limitations... Looks like to me Henry is having a deep scorpio moment and facing his own limitations.... will he resist and continue to try and dodge or will he cooperate with evolution transcending his own limitations with the Pluto transit? I guess we will see. Will this lady survive it? I am not sure. There's something off about the pairing. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10089 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 07, 2023 02:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by SleepyDiary: You mentioned he has some pretty strong Taurus energy in his chart sorry to say but in my experience i find Taurean people to have this dullness about them which can get even worse with Aqua’s detachment in the mix too. Like with Debbie reynolds who was an Aqua Moon and Venus in Taurus she admitted men left her for more passionate women one of those ex husbands actually left her for Elizabeth taylor. But she was an incredible actress with much more charisma than Henry imo
Yes... probably 🤔. I would think the Aqua would give them interesting quirks. But i do see the "dullness" you speak of. My friend (Tau Sun/Lib Moon) is like this. He lacks a certain va va boom! I think i would add Taurus Moon to this. I find them to be lovely. But i know many people who find Taurus moon natives "boring". IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10089 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 07, 2023 02:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sunnya: I couldn't have said better. Apparently he is to be cast in some Warhammer project? It's all so weird. I had a look at the lady and I found two possible birthdays for her which make her either an Aries or a Sagittarius. She gives me Virgo vibes with her huge glasses, maybe there's some Virgo in the chart. She's pretty but doesn't exude charisma either. While both Aries and Saggie could bode well with his Aqua side, his Taurus will be screaming at some point... And then Neptune, yea Fire doesn't go well with the elusive, unsettling, dodgy.... But of course without her full chart, the data and info we can deduct is very limited. Although I must say, it all seems awkward, maybe it's all normal, but the way even he addresses the relationship on his Instagram and communicated it's all a bit weird. Or someone writes for him his posts with this approval. With Pluto coming into Aqua, I wouldn't be surprised if we find out more about him, his sexuality, his love life, his career direction or lack thereof... Neptune can't dodge Pluto. Hell, even Saturn crumbles its crystallized forms in the face of Pluto.... And like you said, trying to be elusive all the time is breeding scandal... well... Pluto loves a good scandal if the point is to bring transformation into any limitations... Looks like to me Henry is having a deep scorpio moment and facing his own limitations.... will he resist and continue to try and dodge or will he cooperate with evolution transcending his own limitations with the Pluto transit? I guess we will see. Will this lady survive it? I am not sure. There's something off about the pairing.
Ime, Sag females actually like Taurus males. I think they rank #2 of Sag Female "Most likely to marry" list in Gunter Sach's research. And for Taurus male, Sag females are #2 too. So yeah 🤷🏿♂️ Henry briefly dated Kaley Cocuo(Big Bang Theory)and she is Sag Sun. I think the added Uranus mix on his Ven/Mars doesn't want anything heavy-going. And Sag can be cool with that. Plus the Venus in Gem opp Sag placements can add to the attraction i guess. Moon in Aqua is not great with emotional expression. And with added Mars square, there is a defensiveness there too. Whether gay, straight, bi or even asexual, i think the issue here is with privacy. Neptune can be secretive about their relationships. Very cryptic. This because they believe in privacy so much. Not always because they are ashamed.But because to them its synonymous with sanctity. With Henry however there is a little bit of a contradiction-as indicated by the Sun/Moon square. The Aqua Moon is usually(and ironically) very comfortable with communicating about their private thoughts on public platforms i.e. social media and having people chime in. They can find it therapeutic to connect with the greater public. Group therapy sessions like AA meetings or related support groups etc. Were probably started by someone with Moon in house 11 or in Aquarius. But now Henry has reserved Taurus Sun squaring the Moon. And this presents a problem i.e. he only wants to share what he wants to share. And we are like "but you let us into your thoughts. Why don't you let us in all the way"? And then he gets defensive. So you can ask Cavill anything. But he won't answer some things and is not really as open or communicative as would be suggested by that Moon in Aqua. Thats the square. He can switch on/off. Venus/Neptune is at the Aries point in the Draconic chart. I find natal aries point and Draconic aries points to highlight themes that are pivotal in the birth chart. This because in the draco chart, the Nodal relationship of the relevant planets involved is brought to central focus. When we brainstorm Venus/Neptune, we can find much to interpret about their alignment. Secret(Nep)love(Ven),finances (Ven) go through sudden losses(Nep),a changeable (Nep)self esteem(Ven),unclear(Nep) value system(Ven),pretend(Nep)love(Ven),the consummate(Nep)romantic(Ven),love(Ven) of escapism(Nep),an unfinished(Nep) lovelife (Ven),hero(Nep)worship (Ven), transcendental(Nep)attraction/love(Ven), dreamy(Nep)looks(Ven),deceptive(Nep) looks(Ven),uunrealistic (Nep) ideals (Ven), the worship(Nep) of beauty(Ven) hidden(Nep) affections (Ven), spiritual (Nep)love (Ven),infatuation(Nep) confused as love(Ven), confusion (Nep) in love (Ven),love(Ven)of solitude(Nep), no boundaries (Nep) in love(Ven), lost (Nep)love(Ven),unrequited(Nep) love or affections(Ven),project (Nep) beautiful qualities (Ven) on something, foreign (Nep) affections(Ven), seeing what you want to see(Neptune) in love(Ven), infedility(Nep) in love(Ven), i dint know(Nep) what love(Ven) is, overlooked (Nep) in love(Ven), all is not as it seems (Nep) in love(Ven). He also does have Ven on his Sun/Moon midpoint. There is a strong Neptune influence with him. Perhaps we will never truly know who Henry really because (as I said), i don't think he knows who he is from one day to the next either. Everything tends to dissolve quite regularly 🤔
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 23612 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 07, 2023 05:45 AM
I know exactly what you're talking about, because I experience it, too, only I'm not famous. I was bullied a lot, too, and I have Sun/Mercury/Ceres/Chiron all conjunct. Uranus conjunct ascendant, opposed Sun, inconjunct Moon/Venus, trine Mars. I occasionally feel like I fit in, until something comes up, and I don't, so I must be ousted. It can hurt, even if you rationally know that you shouldn't care. It can depend on how much you know someone, or if you're related to them, but also just in general, if it's somewhere you have to be, or pack behaviour rearing its head. I always wanted to be inclusive. His girlfriend - some think that she's a fake girlfriend, and that he's gay, but not out. I don't know. I don't really care. It just bothers me when people attack her, because they don't think she's worthy, or they think that he should be "out" if he's gay. If he is, that's incredibly personal. I tend to love Taurus moons, and also the Suns figure prominently in my life. My dad is a Taurus sun/moon. Mum was Sadge/Libra, and he was the only one to get her down the aisle (and more than once). I think it's shyness, and just that it's nobody's business. The Taureans I know, are incredibly private, unless they trust you, or feel like talking. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10089 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 07, 2023 07:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I know exactly what you're talking about, because I experience it, too, only I'm not famous. I was bullied a lot, too, and I have Sun/Mercury/Ceres/Chiron all conjunct. Uranus conjunct ascendant, opposed Sun, inconjunct Moon/Venus, trine Mars. I occasionally feel like I fit in, until something comes up, and I don't, so I must be ousted. It can hurt, even if you rationally know that you shouldn't care. It can depend on how much you know someone, or if you're related to them, but also just in general, if it's somewhere you have to be, or pack behaviour rearing its head. I always wanted to be inclusive. His girlfriend - some think that she's a fake girlfriend, and that he's gay, but not out. I don't know. I don't really care. It just bothers me when people attack her, because they don't think she's worthy, or they think that he should be "out" if he's gay. If he is, that's incredibly personal. I tend to love Taurus moons, and also the Suns figure prominently in my life. My dad is a Taurus sun/moon. Mum was Sadge/Libra, and he was the only one to get her down the aisle (and more than once). I think it's shyness, and just that it's nobody's business. The Taureans I know, are incredibly private, unless they trust you, or feel like talking.
Privacy is a thing with Taurus. Yes. Absolutely. But unfortunately (and perhaps to echo the Sun/Moon square conundrum) he chose and got famous with a role that would cost him his privacy (square Moon). I find that Sun/Moon conj people intentionally "merge" their public and private lives together. So the face often doesn't hide emotions well. This because the emotions are usually always on the surface. Sun/Moon square are similar. But they wish they could differentiate their private selves from their public persona . But the two are "together" like conjoined twins i.e. their emotions are most times in conflict with their self expression. That's why they can often appear either stiff and stoic or defensive and prickly. With the opposition, there is a clear and unbridgeable distinction between the private self (Moon) and the public persona (Sun). This is very important for their psyche. They can literally "switch" once off-stage and be somebody else entirely. I would not approach these people for an autograph whilst they are out in public. They may not be friendly. Henry will continue to have an issue with invasion of privacy or brusque questions by the public. I have seen that he even cringes in interviews when they ask him anything outside of the roles he plays (barring being an online gamer). Unfortunately Henry, being an extremely good-looking guy and an unwilling sex symbol, people will be interested in who is filling up your stuffings. Its the fame game🤷🏿♂️ They were like that with fellow Sun/Moon square ambiguous sexuality turned revolutionary activist alumni Ricky Martin. Barbara Walters did that (now cringe-worthy)interview where she flat out asked him if he was gay. Ricky denied it(ofcourse, anybody would) but later recanted the denial(as is evident now). I just think as a public, sexuality has become a huge issue that when you are as evasive as Henry has been about his lovelife, people assume you are "hiding". So they will disconnect with you somewhat and find you "shady" or disingenuous. I am not saying that Henry is gay. I still think he is asexual tbh. But there is a pattern of men in Hollywood who tend to keep up appearances just so they are not overlooked for "red hot blooded male" leading roles. Public opinions =dollars. And most men(like cost conscious Taurus Sun Henry) know the cost of coming out or being outside the accepted "norm". Unfortunately, Henry will not be afforded more privacy if his status continues to elevate. People will want to know and pry into his business. And the Pluto transit square to natal Sun/Moon square,will heighten his defenses on one hand. Or have him become more authentic to himself and others by bringing him clarity on stuff he was long unclear about(on the other) Ricky Martin (Cap Sun-Pisces Moon sqaure) was at the height of his success in 1999/ 2000, when he went for a sabbatical. Prior to this,he was very defensive regarding questions of his sexual orientation. This is typical of the Sun/Moon square as described. He couldn't find a way to distinguish his private life from public image. They seemed to overlap(much to his discomfort) . Ricky has Ven/Mars midpoint =Neptune. Was he private about his loves? Yes. But that was also because he was self-denying & trying to maintain an identity that he wasn't. Trans Pluto was square his Mc/Ic and conj his Merc(AscGem ruler). As he said of the time, it was a period for him to forgive himself for "letting things get that far"(with regards to his concealed sexual orientation). Ricky officially came out in 2010, trans Plu conj Sun/sqaure Moon. Plu has a way of having us become more authentic with ourselves.This whatever the world thinks. I am not saying that Plu square Henry's Sun/Moon will have him "come out" ( I don't know if he actually is /is not gay). But it will certainly change his whole persona and how he is known to the public. Pluto does that.☝🏿 IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary Knowflake Posts: 653 From: Registered: Apr 2017
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posted January 07, 2023 10:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Yes... probably 🤔. I would think the Aqua would give them interesting quirks. But i do see the "dullness" you speak of. My friend (Tau Sun/Lib Moon) is like this. He lacks a certain va va boom!I think i would add Taurus Moon to this. I find them to be lovely. But i know many people who find Taurus moon natives "boring".
Oh Aqua’s can definitivly have some interesting quirks to them but they can also be too ‘’chill’’ in their relationships and be kinda carefree. This combined with some Earth influence too makes it even more so i have noticed.
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Sunnya Knowflake Posts: 675 From: Sunnyland Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 07, 2023 11:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Ime, Sag females actually like Taurus males. I think they rank #2 of Sag Female "Most likely to marry" list in Gunter Sach's research. And for Taurus male, Sag females are #2 too. So yeah 🤷🏿♂️Henry briefly dated Kaley Cocuo(Big Bang Theory)and she is Sag Sun. I think the added Uranus mix on his Ven/Mars doesn't want anything heavy-going. And Sag can be cool with that. Plus the Venus in Gem opp Sag placements can add to the attraction i guess. Moon in Aqua is not great with emotional expression. And with added Mars square, there is a defensiveness there too. Whether gay, straight, bi or even asexual, i think the issue here is with privacy. Neptune can be secretive about their relationships. Very cryptic. This because they believe in privacy so much. Not always because they are ashamed.But because to them its synonymous with sanctity. With Henry however there is a little bit of a contradiction-as indicated by the Sun/Moon square. The Aqua Moon is usually(and ironically) very comfortable with communicating about their private thoughts on public platforms i.e. social media and having people chime in. They can find it therapeutic to connect with the greater public. Group therapy sessions like AA meetings or related support groups etc. Were probably started by someone with Moon in house 11 or in Aquarius. But now Henry has reserved Taurus Sun squaring the Moon. And this presents a problem i.e. he only wants to share what he wants to share. And we are like "but you let us into your thoughts. Why don't you let us in all the way"? And then he gets defensive. So you can ask Cavill anything. But he won't answer some things and is not really as open or communicative as would be suggested by that Moon in Aqua. Thats the square. He can switch on/off. Venus/Neptune is at the Aries point in the Draconic chart. I find natal aries point and Draconic aries points to highlight themes that are pivotal in the birth chart. This because in the draco chart, the Nodal relationship of the relevant planets involved is brought to central focus. When we brainstorm Venus/Neptune, we can find much to interpret about their alignment. Secret(Nep)love(Ven),finances (Ven) go through sudden losses(Nep),a changeable (Nep)self esteem(Ven),unclear(Nep) value system(Ven),pretend(Nep)love(Ven),the consummate(Nep)romantic(Ven),love(Ven) of escapism(Nep),an unfinished(Nep) lovelife (Ven),hero(Nep)worship (Ven), transcendental(Nep)attraction/love(Ven), dreamy(Nep)looks(Ven),deceptive(Nep) looks(Ven),uunrealistic (Nep) ideals (Ven), the worship(Nep) of beauty(Ven) hidden(Nep) affections (Ven), spiritual (Nep)love (Ven),infatuation(Nep) confused as love(Ven), confusion (Nep) in love (Ven),love(Ven)of solitude(Nep), no boundaries (Nep) in love(Ven), lost (Nep)love(Ven),unrequited(Nep) love or affections(Ven),project (Nep) beautiful qualities (Ven) on something, foreign (Nep) affections(Ven), seeing what you want to see(Neptune) in love(Ven), infedility(Nep) in love(Ven), i dint know(Nep) what love(Ven) is, overlooked (Nep) in love(Ven), all is not as it seems (Nep) in love(Ven). He also does have Ven on his Sun/Moon midpoint. There is a strong Neptune influence with him. Perhaps we will never truly know who Henry really because (as I said), i don't think he knows who he is from one day to the next either. Everything tends to dissolve quite regularly 🤔
I mentioned above the possibility of this lady being a marketing move exactly because of that quick fling (1 week? XD) with Kaley. It was rumoured to have been a PR stunt... So yea, it wouldn't be new to him such attitudes. Again, deceptive Neptune coming up to play there. I agree and also have mentioned that this coming Pluto transit will shaking him to the core and we will see how he chooses to act with the profound stuff it will come up even more intensely... This will add up to the continuous cruise of Uranus throughout Taurus too. Whatever is, it will be on his face and impossible to "pretend it's not there and "escape" (Neptune) We have an upcoming Venus retrograde around the summer, right? if I am not mistaken then that should be interesting, if she's still around at that time lol. I do agree with teasel that i don't know why people attack her and offend her even. For me, it's just feels it's all a consequence of the way he deals with the fans. Sometimes he seems a open book and others, things seem less clear, doubtful and even deceptive as we already talked (neptune), so maybe that's why the fans don't accept this girlfriend. It could also be something on her chart that we don't know. Regardless, there's no excuse for disrespecting her. But isn't it peculiar that it's Henry's girlfriend that gets all the animosity, that it's a minority who feel happy he found someone? Meaning, it's not coincidental this is happening with her because of associating with him.... But something tells me, she's just here to play a part in the great Pluto in Aqua plan. What is his chart ruler again? EDIT: the irony is funny too... this is a guy without charisma in a charismatic field.... needs a partner that could potentially help here and bring some charisma, some presence and love with the fans and even attract more fans. Gets a girlfriend, he's attacked, she's attacked, they both lack charisma, and being with her is hurting his image rather than helping (among fans). And this is ultimately why i feel they won't last...
You can be private but still sometimes "throw a bone" and keep public happy. But yea, this is probably the balance that Sun/Moon square needs to find. I don't know what rules his MC, but if that ruler is also afflicted... yea... fun times... Eeeeek. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10089 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 07, 2023 01:47 PM
#Sunnya I am more inclined to believe the 26 March 1989 birthday. This since it was in 2005 that she was celebrating her "Sweet 16" ( as per the MTV show). Well, she was young back then. So I will not be hard on her for that. As a bae to some football player who is into "chicks". She would make sense. But I don't know, with Henry I pictured someone a little more....eh....cultured? Maybe someone whose family owns a Vineyard or something? And she sells art pieces to galleries and museums for "kicks".Someone a little more polished. I dont trust this relationship. But time will tell.☝🏿 Her Moon in Sco opposes his Sun and squares his Moon. The Moon is currently going through an opposition with transiting Ura. Whilst her Sun is conjunct trans Jupiter/square Neptune and Uranus. I am seeing the Uranus on Sun & Neptune on Sun. She has similar identity issues. Absent/inconsistent Father. Chiron on Sun(Daddy issues). Venus is conj Sun. So Chiron will aspect Venus too. In desperate need of validation. The "show me my worth, show me you love me" type. Ura/Ven square, Neptune/Ven. In Henry the two planets are present too. Neptune is midpoint to his Sun/Moon and Uranus is midpoint to his Ven/Mars. Neptune aspects Venus. We attract exactly who wr are🤷🏿♂️ I dont trust this relatinship as lasting. Neptune/Uranus together will not solidify anything.There is however a possible friendship.They are emotionally detached from each other. Sat/Nep/Ura stellium build-up aspect her Sun/Ven. Her Moon/Pluto are conjunct. There is a streak about her that tends to follow her own directive. I don't think the hate online is causing much of a dent. Mars/Jup conj in Gem. She may just brush it aside or use it for more clout. Is the relationship for publicity? Perhaps. Jupiter/Mars in Gemini likes social relevance. It reminds me of that phony "Don't forget your crown" female "empowerment" self-help guru Derrick Jaxn. He left his long-suffering wife for a woman he was cheating with. She is selling a story. Some people will buy it. In time we will see if its real. I will reserve judgement for now. But i find it interesting that Mars in Gemini retro is on her Mars/Jup natal conj. Could the online hostility be indicated by that?🤔
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Sunnya Knowflake Posts: 675 From: Sunnyland Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 07, 2023 06:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: #Sunnya I am more inclined to believe the 26 March 1989 birthday. This since it was in 2005 that she was celebrating her "Sweet 16" ( as per the MTV show). Well, she was young back then. So I will not be hard on her for that. As a bae to some football player who is into "chicks". She would make sense. But I don't know, with Henry I pictured someone a little more....eh....cultured? Maybe someone whose family owns a Vineyard or something? And she sells art pieces to galleries and museums for "kicks".Someone a little more polished. I dont trust this relationship. But time will tell.☝🏿 Her Moon in Sco opposes his Sun and squares his Moon. The Moon is currently going through an opposition with transiting Ura. Whilst her Sun is conjunct trans Jupiter/square Neptune and Uranus. I am seeing the Uranus on Sun & Neptune on Sun. She has similar identity issues. Absent/inconsistent Father. Chiron on Sun(Daddy issues). Venus is conj Sun. So Chiron will aspect Venus too. In desperate need of validation. The "show me my worth, show me you love me" type. Ura/Ven square, Neptune/Ven. In Henry the two planets are present too. Neptune is midpoint to his Sun/Moon and Uranus is midpoint to his Ven/Mars. Neptune aspects Venus. We attract exactly who wr are🤷🏿♂️ I dont trust this relatinship as lasting. Neptune/Uranus together will not solidify anything.There is however a possible friendship.They are emotionally detached from each other. Sat/Nep/Ura stellium build-up aspect her Sun/Ven. Her Moon/Pluto are conjunct. There is a streak about her that tends to follow her own directive. I don't think the hate online is causing much of a dent. Mars/Jup conj in Gem. She may just brush it aside or use it for more clout. Is the relationship for publicity? Perhaps. Jupiter/Mars in Gemini likes social relevance. It reminds me of that phony "Don't forget your crown" female "empowerment" self-help guru Derrick Jaxn. He left his long-suffering wife for a woman he was cheating with. She is selling a story. Some people will buy it. In time we will see if its real. I will reserve judgement for now. But i find it interesting that Mars in Gemini retro is on her Mars/Jup natal conj. Could the online hostility be indicated by that?🤔
Oh after this, I believe even less in this relationship too. Moon in Scorpio basically activating his Sun/Moon square. A Moon that is private yes, but she won't take lightly his neptunian bs either lol, in fact she might see through the bs and then not trust him. Goodness, considering these aspects it's as if she will mirror to him his own issues. And that Sun Chiron? Her ego could be easily hurt and she could lack confidence (hence also the need for validation) while being very good at boosting the confidence of others. Because of this, I think the online hate is bothering her. You say absent/inconsistent father and voila inconsistent "boyfriend" lol. You know what's funny too? Is that Mars in Gemini in retro (that you mention is on her Mars/Jup) is ruled by the current Mercury in retro in Cap. And the hate comes before the Merc rx but has been ongoing during Mars rx. Maybe we will have more hints after both are direct. I feel this will all implode to Henry... Career, shady love life.... I think if this is just a story or a real relationship, it won't last (edit: and be exposed). This 2023 year feels a very "psychological themed" year with Pluto getting in Aqua, squaring Taurus nodes, etc... Beautiful contributions Aries, by the way . IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 2786 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted January 08, 2023 02:31 PM
Regarding his career struggle, there is always a lot going behind the scene of big Hollywood projects. A lot of times the actor's political views or financial demands will get them in trouble or boycotted by Hollywood. Henry has apparently a history of being bullied since childhood. He was even bullied for the girlfriend he had?Being bullied is a pattern I see in people with moon in Aquarius. I think they are just too nice to confront. I saw my best friend (Aquarius Sun, moon, mercury, Aries AC) get bullied a lot. Same thing with my ex of two years who had his moon in Aquarius. I always urged him to confront others more, but ultimately I learned he just doesn't have it in him. My Sun in Taurus squared his moon. Eventually I broke up with him because there was no fire (even his sun in Leo could not save the relationship). I think the recent square from Saturn to Henry's Sun, is another culprit why he faced career struggles (or maybe eventually he'll be better off away from Hollywood?). I experienced a lot of career confusion and even some backlash from my bosses where Saturn squared my Taurus Sun not that long ago. I admit I did not work hard enough.  IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 23612 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 08, 2023 02:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul: Regarding his career struggle, there is always a lot going behind the scene of big Hollywood projects. A lot of times the actor's political views or financial demands will get them in trouble or boycotted by Hollywood. Henry has apparently a history of being bullied since childhood. He was even bullied for the girlfriend he had?Being bullied is a pattern I see in people with moon in Aquarius. I think they are just too nice to confront. I saw my best friend (Aquarius Sun, moon, mercury, Aries AC) get bullied a lot. Same thing with my ex of two years who had his moon in Aquarius. I always urged him to confront others more, but ultimately I learned he just doesn't have it in him. My Sun in Taurus squared his moon. Eventually I broke up with him because there was no fire (even his sun in Leo could not save the relationship). I think the recent square from Saturn to Henry's Sun, is another culprit why he faced career struggles (or maybe eventually he'll be better off away from Hollywood?). I experienced a lot of career confusion and even some backlash from my bosses where Saturn squared my Taurus Sun not that long ago. I admit I did not work hard enough. 
They weren’t my own words. I find him attractive, I haven’t seen most of his work. I followed him on Instagram, when he was baking bread, and cooking during the pandemic. I’m a gamer, so I won’t find that unattractive in someone, as long as he does other things with his life, too. Other people have said that his PERSONALITY is dull. *edit. There was an entirely different post there before. I finally learned to confront others. I used to just try to keep the peace, it was easier for me, too. Hate drama, but it’s always somewhere now. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 23612 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 08, 2023 02:56 PM
I have sun/Chiron, and I don’t have daddy issues. I have issues from abusive men in my childhood, and a sexual harasser, but it’s nothing that isn’t understandable. My dad is the best man I know. I’m very lucky to have him as my father. Edit. Hi sunnya.  IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 2786 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted January 08, 2023 04:52 PM
^ Yes, I edited my post. I realized I may have been wrong in my judgement. IP: Logged |
Sunnya Knowflake Posts: 675 From: Sunnyland Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 08, 2023 05:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: I have sun/Chiron, and I don’t have daddy issues. I have issues from abusive men in my childhood, and a sexual harasser, but it’s nothing that isn’t understandable. My dad is the best man I know. I’m very lucky to have him as my father. Edit. Hi sunnya. 
I see Saturn as the one related to father/paternal figures, not the Sun. But there are certain astrology branches which relate the Sun with the father, I don't really consider them myself, although respect them. HUG to you Teasel, so good to still see you around <3 IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 10089 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 09, 2023 02:46 AM
Thought I read somewhere that he and the current beau broke up. Tried to look for that article. But it turns out its not true . They are still(very much) together.🤔IP: Logged | |