posted December 31, 2022 05:19 PM            

It's not insightful, perhaps like Pluto.

It's flashes of awareness, or understanding, or knowledge.

It can still be called intuition I suppose.

posted January 01, 2023 11:36 AM            

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
I agree 👍 which is why i don’t understand why this sign is often linked with intuition because in my experiences they are too impersonal to be intuitive about others. They just don’t go that deep into things even when they are interested in someone. They are way too impatient for any of that. Air needs verbal communication which is why they love witty people who they can debate with and who they can have great conversations with too. They don’t do the ‘’non verbal’’ it’s just not how they operate and they will lose interest for someone that is more ‘’non verbally’’ in their approach.

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You don't understand why because Aquarians are known only let a very few people in. And you probably one, who Aquarians you know are never let you in to know the truth. Usually only their own family know who they really are, the people who usually have the privillage to see how their minds work (or maybe not too, depending how they see you), and that's why Aquarians also are known as the most misunderstood sign by people, the majority people who they never let in inside their head.

Air needs verbal communication because they like to know the truth coming from your mouth. No matter if that is a lie or not, they like to focus on people when they interact and a verbal communication help them to know you better. Non verbal communication makes them judge you as dishonest no matter how you think you are not like that. This is what happened in their close relationship, it may differ when they are with strangers. Legend says: "when you start open your mouth, you tell people who you are."

You may think air sign is not capable into deep, I mean, think again. Air sign knows how it would be inside (rather in denial or avoid it), that's why some of them choose to keep in the surface and the other? Have you seen the quiet, cold, slow, and prefer being an observer of people/situation? No? Then you have not meet the other air sign.

posted January 01, 2023 01:00 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
You don't understand why because Aquarians are known only let a very few people in. And you probably one, who Aquarians you know are never let you in to know the truth. Usually only their own family know who they really are, the people who usually have the privillage to see how their minds work (or maybe not too, depending how they see you), and that's why Aquarians also are known as the most misunderstood sign by people, the majority people who they never let in inside their head.

Air needs verbal communication because they like to know the truth coming from your mouth. No matter if that is a lie or not, they like to focus on people when they interact and a verbal communication help them to know you better. Non verbal communication makes them judge you as dishonest no matter how you think you are not like that. This is what happened in their close relationship, it may differ when they are with strangers. Legend says: "when you start open your mouth, you tell people who you are."

You may think air sign is not capable into deep, I mean, think again. Air sign knows how it would be inside (rather in denial or avoid it), that's why some of them choose to keep in the surface and the other? Have you seen the quiet, cold, slow, and prefer being an observer of people/situation? No? Then you have not meet the other air sign.

Debate occurs when the communication between two people are bad or both can't see each other point of view. Everyone can debate, not only the air sign. In this board you can see cleary all the debate, who start it and how it ends. Try to find their sun sign.

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My brother is an Aquarius Sun and Rising plus he has some major Uranus aspects and he has a big heart and is very non judgemental too but he can also be naive and lack some awareness. He is often the life of the party and have a big social circle but he doesn’t get to know people on a more deeper level even with the ones he has known for years it’s a lot that has gone undetected. He also thinks he knows someone well because he has partied with them a lot but the truth is he only knows them on a surface level because he doesn’t take the time to really get to know someone on a deeper level. Aquarians likes casual encounters and connections with people they can have interesting conversations with, it doesn’t ever need to be that deep with them in my experience. Sometimes i feel they don’t even know how casual they can be

I also have had some Aquarian friends and some had some major Uranus aspects too and it was the same with them the connection was more casual with some interesting conversations but it didn’t go so much deeper than that. They weren’t the ones that would ‘’intuit’’ your needs or any of that sort.

Air is the most Intellectual and most communicative element out of all the elements they love picking people’s brains and be intellecually stimulated they don’t need a ‘’barrier’’ to get into a debate. They love this and want this in their relationships.

posted January 01, 2023 01:02 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Aquarians have different "intuition".

It's not insightful, perhaps like Pluto.

It's flashes of awareness, or understanding?

It can still be called intuition I suppose.

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I think this is where the "whole chart" needs considered. As well no two ANY signs are alike but I read some compelling study about 10 years ago that an astrologer (professional) accomplished, stating the findings were Aquarius ppl were more different from one another than any of the the 11 other signs. Hence their being termed "weird", "unique" - "different".

I think when two Aquarius people meet, they instinctually see a difference within the other that might not be as uniform as the other 11. They might have no similarities yet be the only two in a huge group to have caliks(sp). The little Rascals Alphalpha crazy hair. Pipi Long stockings was likey an Aquarius..

I'm trying to say that "whitebirds" has no real way of saying every Aquarius as they are so very different in many ways..
All people are! So the chart is the full picture. There might be Aquarius aspects, say a square or something.

posted January 01, 2023 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
My brother is an Aquarius Sun and Rising plus he has some major Uranus aspects and he has a big heart and is very non judgemental too but he can also be naive and lack some awareness. He is often the life of the party and have a big social circle but he doesn’t get to know people on a more deeper level even with the ones he has known for years it’s a lot that has gone undetected. He also thinks he knows someone well because he has partied with them a lot but the truth is he only knows them on a surface level because he doesn’t take the time to really get to know someone on a deeper level. Aquarians likes casual encounters and connections with people they can have interesting conversations with, it doesn’t ever need to be that deep with them in my experience. Sometimes i feel they don’t even know how casual they can be

I also have had some Aquarian friends and some had some major Uranus aspects too and it was the same with them the connection was more casual with some interesting conversations but it didn’t go so much deeper than that. They weren’t the ones that would ‘’intuit’’ your needs or any of that sort.

Air is the most Intellectual and most communicative element out of all the elements they love picking people’s brains and be intellecually stimulated they don’t need a ‘’barrier’’ to get into a debate. They love this and want this in their relationships.

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I see. I think you should add your Aquarius brother and your Aquarius friends next time rather than saying like all Aquarians are like your brother or your friends based on your own judgment about them.

Aquarius and Uranus is not the same, but it has some similarity. Try to take a time to understand what Uranus before judging Aquarius itself.

My husband has Sun/Uranus, is he acting like an Aquarius? Naah, he is still his Sun but act like someone with Uranian influence.

It will never easy to understand what's inside Aquarians people until they tell you the truth but they usually choose not telling all, this especially true to Aquarius male, the hardest one to crack.

If you like to try to dig some more about them, especially the male Aquarius, if they let you in to know little, they will give a hint that their parents, family, and their upbringing give them the most impact shaping who they are and how they react to the world. Aquarians always start from their little circle before stepping into the bigger circle or they may actually never step into the other circle but act like one and people will accuse them superficial, well, yeah, because they actually never step in.

Short relationship? Yes, I think every sign will have their time to debate. Long time relationship? I don't think Air signs love more debate anymore as they probably have known you unless they meet incompatible mate and keep bickering. Air signs probably the one who will easily leave the relationship if it becomes more emotional through debating.

posted January 01, 2023 06:43 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
I see. I think you should add your Aquarius brother and your Aquarius friends next time rather than saying like all Aquarians are like your brother or your friends based on your own judgment about them.

Aquarius and Uranus is not the same, but it has some similarity. Try to take a time to understand what Uranus before judging Aquarius itself.

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Uranus IS Aquarius ruling planet so when an Aquarian has some Uranus influence too you can’t get more Uranian than that. Uranus will only be ‘’different’’ when it comes to the other signs like someone with a Capricorn Sun conjunct Uranus, but this is Aquarians planet and they are the ones that knows how to ‘’work’’it the best. I think you need to read more about how they can have a more detached side to them. They are KNOWN for this and it’s not for no reason they are either. They have gotten a lot of complaints because of their impersonal approach to romance and relationships

posted January 01, 2023 07:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
They could be too out there and sacrifice people for the progress. Elon Musk could represent superior and inferior Aqua/Uranian traits (Sun Mercury sq. Uranus, Aqua Mars, Uranus IC). He is one of the smartest. But he is also famous for very questionable qualities and decisions, being dirtball and mistreating people.
He can run spaceships and new technology, but have much more struggles managing social networking.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
[b] I agree that they are smart and can be sharp, ambitious and have unique minds but i haven’t found them to be that intuitive esp in regards to people.

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posted January 01, 2023 08:30 PM            

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Uranus IS Aquarius ruling planet so when an Aquarian has some Uranus influence too you can’t get more Uranian than that. Uranus will only be ‘’different’’ when it comes to the other signs like someone with a Capricorn Sun conjunct Uranus, but this is Aquarians planet and they are the ones that knows how to ‘’work’’it the best. I think you need to read more about how they can have a more detached side to them. They are KNOWN for this and it’s not for no reason they are either. They have gotten a lot of complaints because of their impersonal approach to romance and relationships

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Rulling planet doesn't mean THE SAME thing. If this is the same thing, astrologers won't make two different descriptions. Think about it.

I thought this thread is only about the sun of Aquarius, but you suddenly mix it with the Uranian influence, then you should have opened the thread about Aquarians with Uranian aspect in their natal chart.

I don't think I have to read more about how Aquarians can have a more detached side to them because I'm one of them, that's why I ask you to read more because I think you are the one who need to understand it more as you are not their sun sign. I don't even find myself relate more to those people with a lot of Uranian quality about them.

And of course I see this too as a complain and you have said it. I'm here stating that "Aquarians are known only let a very few people in." And there's a lot of information out there about it too. Still, those complainers keep complain because simply they just don't like Aquarians and Aquarians can't always make you satisfied like other sun sign do to others.

If you feel disatisfied about certain people in your life, don't make it like everyone in this world are like that. Telling us specifically who you're talking about, or I will have a thought that you may want to stir the pot in this forum and influence other people who have less knowledge about it to dislike every Aquarians in this world. Lets just be your brother and your friends. Then I will see this as a theraphy session.

posted January 02, 2023 01:21 AM            

Aquarium is trans-personal sign. Not interested in the intimate details of people.

But still, egalitarian and caring for the person as a member of the human race. As one of the hive. Maybe, even only because they are one unit of the greater hive, and for Aqua, the hive must survive.

The details of each person are somewhat irrelevant, lest they muddy the waters of the focus on the whole (hive). Aquariums want to keep in focus their bottom line that states: all human's are equal. Or, a hive member is a resource to the greater hive and must be tended to for the greater good of the all.

For aquariass, if you know people's details, you may become emotionally bias? Which runs counter the Aquarium ideals - they may get distracted, or emotionally involved, and focus too much on one member, where their focus is on the hive.

Further -
Sleepy is even more right

Sleepy makes a really important point: Aquarium is about ideals, and ideals are not reality; they are ungrounded, impractical, impersonal, and too broad. Too airy.

Additionally, they seek to systemise their ideals into methods that are equally applicable to all people (in the hive).

They want to also create an ideal system that supports their ideals, and that can operate fautlessly, for the whole of humanity (to run humanity). This is where the zanny, detached, and ultimately mad scientist enters: the chasing of ideals for the ideal sake, and that then become impractical, and harmful.

The problem is that, it becomes a contradiction. Because when things are systemised for all, they are not equitable (which is different); systems do not adjust to each individual's unique needs/wants. And therefore are bad for humanity.

When things are systemised for all, we run into things like communism, a robotic, obedient, impersonal hive-mind race, etc. Ironically, run by rules and conformity.

The devil is in the detail, and aquariums fall down here. They need to understand the value of the Leo principle: that each person deserves to shine in their own right, and in their own journey of a creative self. And to understand the dangers that exist to humanity, if the value of these details are not understood, and each human is not honoured on their individual and personal merit.

Each person has their own unique and specific personal and intimate needs and perspectives that require validation. And that doing so, ironically, is for the greater good of humanity - not a challenge to the hive. If no one is special, humans quickly fall into a race of drones that serve and obey the system, where all thinking is the same, and a race that is equally grey.

posted January 02, 2023 03:19 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Rulling planet doesn't mean THE SAME thing. If this is the same thing, astrologers won't make two different descriptions. Think about it.

I thought this thread is only about the sun of Aquarius, but you suddenly mix it with the Uranian influence, then you should have opened the thread about Aquarians with Uranian aspect in their natal chart.

I don't think I have to read more about how Aquarians can have a more detached side to them because I'm one of them, that's why I ask you to read more because I think you are the one who need to understand it more as you are not their sun sign. I don't even find myself relate more to those people with a lot of Uranian quality about them.

And of course I see this too as a complain and you have said it. I'm here stating that "Aquarians are known only let a very few people in." And there's a lot of information out there about it too. Still, those complainers keep complain because simply they just don't like Aquarians and Aquarians can't always make you satisfied like other sun sign do to others.

If you feel disatisfied about certain people in your life, don't make it like everyone in this world are like that. Telling us specifically who you're talking about, or I will have a thought that you may want to stir the pot in this forum and influence other people who have less knowledge about it to dislike every Aquarians in this world. Lets just be your brother and your friends. Then I will see this as a theraphy session.

The same with the OP, she simply has bad experience and no matter how everyone suggest her to seek help, she chooses to keep dwelling in her own darkness.

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They do this because they are a aware that not all Uranians will be like a true Aquarian/Uranian who are the true Uranian people and will express Uranus to it’s true form. But every Uranian that got a strong dose of it will have some Aquarian traits because Uranus is giving it to them like unpredictability, being unusual and future-thinking but it will be a little different too because they might not be under the influence of Aquarius where Uranus feels the most at home and can really be itself just like a strong dose of Mars will have people be Arian in nature. I don’t think OP was just talking about the Sun sign but their experience with people that has had Aquarius influence in their charts probably why the OP was so complimentary when it came to Scorpio because it turned out their moon was there, but of course people like you need it written down HARD that it’s not just the Sun sign we are talking about which is why i wrote that my brother has Aquarius Sun AND RISING plus some major Uranus aspects just like those friends. People complain because they have been close to them or are currently close to one and wants to understand why they might do the things they do. Aquarius can be very unusual which can also make them a bit mysterious like for example an Aquarius Venus can have an unusual approach to romance and treat their lovers like friends, not wanting to move in together because they love their space or wanting to hang out with their friends more than their partner and this can frustrate someone that might be more ‘’passionate’’ because they seem detached and impersonal even when they do care.

posted January 02, 2023 03:24 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Sleepy is correct.

Aquarium is trans-personal sign.

Not interested in the intimate details of people.

But still, egalitarian and very caring for the person as a person. As one of the human race. They see all people as people who are worth caring for.

The details are irrelevant, because the bottom line stays the same: a human is a human.

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posted January 02, 2023 03:46 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:

For aquariass, if you know people's details, you may become emotionally bias? Which runs counter the Aquarium ideals.

Further -
Sleepy is even more right

Makes a really important point: the ideas of Aquarium are ideals, and ideals are not reality; they are ungrounded, impractical, and are too broad.

Because while Aqueeriass's are nice, kind and compassionate, theoretically (let's say), they seek to systemise their ideals into methods that are equal for all. Because they want to also create an ideal system that can work for the whole of humanity.

But, this becomes a contradiction because when things are systemised for all, they are not equitable (which is different); systems do not adjustable for each individual's unique needs/wants.

When things are systemised across the board for all, we run into things like communism, a robotic, obedient, impersonal hive-mind race, etc. Ironically, run by rules and conformity!

The devil is in the detail, and aquariums fall down here. They need to understand the value of the Leo principle that each person deserves to shine in their own right, and in their own journey of a creative self. And to understand the dangers that exist to humanity, if this is not understood.

Each person has their own unique and specific personal and intimate needs and perspectives, that should be validated and acknowledged. If no one is special, the humans quickly fall into a race that is drone-like, hive-mind, and all grey.

All this is probably why Pisces is the sign that just gives up, lol

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Very well said 👍

posted January 02, 2023 05:11 AM            

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
Yes it might show more when the Mercury is there but i have also seen Moon in Aquarius have unique minds.

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posted January 02, 2023 05:17 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Then why are they always trying to stand out and be different? Why are they always wanting to shake up and rebel against the current system?

Because Uranus wants to breakdown the old and rebuild (their own system)?

Like how all the outer planets in some way want to breakdown?

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posted January 02, 2023 05:29 AM            

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Originally posted by kani:
how would you define a "unique mind"?

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posted January 02, 2023 06:04 AM            

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Originally posted by kani:
how would you define a "unique mind"?

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posted January 05, 2023 05:06 PM            

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
They do this because they are a aware that not all Uranians will be like a true Aquarian/Uranian who are the true Uranian people and will express Uranus to it’s true form.

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Aquarius expresses Uranus to its true form? Uranian people do.

The identity of Aquarius is fixated. Uranian? Naah, they always desire change.

Uranian is the extremist type, Aquarius? Naah, they don't like complex nor extreme things so they got an inventor label as they will try to find a solution to make their life easier not extreme.

Aquarius itself is too lazy to act like Uranian people who scream for change and movement. They are similar (for futuristic thinker) but yet different (in life). None is true to the other, they are true to their own nature.

The OP has been telling this story over and over again, and we have already got the point, she is talking about her bad experience with that one Aquarius sun, the same as you are talking about your brother and your friends, but act like every Aquarius have the same manner as your Aquarius.

If you explain the first time who are you talking about, we won't feel like you are trying to throw a stone to another Aquarius here who is confusing, what happen to you? As this sound not trying to discuss but trying to climb over.

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:

People complain because they have been close to them or are currently close to one and wants to understand why they might do the things they do.

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We all know complainers mean being unacceptable and complainers are just an explainer of problems. I have never heard complainers motive is to understand, they just want to throw out what they don't accept about something and try to make people to submit.

You want to understand? LEARN not complain. There are a lot of information out there about Aquarius.

Don't make an excuse.

Imagine that you stand in a traffic jam (Aquarius) and you keep complaining about it. We all know you don't try to understand the traffic jam. You just want to speak louder about your irritation about the traffic jam.

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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:

Aquarius can be very unusual which can also make them a bit mysterious like for example an Aquarius Venus can have an unusual approach to romance and treat their lovers like friends, not wanting to move in together because they love their space or wanting to hang out with their friends more than their partner and this can frustrate someone that might be more ‘’passionate’’ because they seem detached and impersonal even when they do care.

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I don't understand how Aquarius venus in love and never got involved with one. I don't think every Aquarius sun will act like Aquarius venus in love. Aquarius sun may have Capricorn venus, Pisces venus, or Aries venus and they will act differently according to their venus sign, and they will want more closeness especially the Pisces venus.

I know one Aquarius venus male and what I've seen, he doesn't even have time to spend time with his friends after marriage. He may have a lot of acquaintance but he said he only have a few that he really considers as friends. We used to meet before us getting married to our spouse now and I know pretty well how small his circle of who he calls "friend".

Each Aquarius influence may easily understand another Aquarius main traits, but each of them not always act the same dose of that traits. I've also read a book that tells: only Aquarius act differently from another Aquarius. They are never found the same. I think that's why astrologers put them in the box of "unique people".

For example, if you put Cancerian people in one group, you can easily notice the same thing they have in common easily without trying. You put Arians people in one group, you can easily notice the same thing they have in common too. You put Aquarius people in one group, you will be surprised how different they are to each other, from their style, their mind, their everything is different to each other, they work differently to each other, so they call it, this is a group of "unique people".

posted January 05, 2023 05:07 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Then why are they always trying to stand out and be different? Why are they always wanting to shake up and rebel against the current system?

Because Uranus wants to breakdown the old and rebuild (their own system)?

Like how all the outer planets in some way want to breakdown?

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I don't think Aquarians put too much effort to try being stand out and be different. It's natural for them just like wearing a cloth. And I don't think they are an attention seeker people, so there's a contradiction there, maybe it's just the problem of those who think Aquarius put an effort to being different/stand out.

Aquarians always wanting to shake up and rebel against the current system? This makes me laugh, I and my Aqua friends who are in IT field don't even care about it. I and my corporate lawyer Aqua friends are never even discussed about it. It doesn't mean we're an ignorance, we just have different interest about it. We live our life by exploring more about life and enjoy it, hanging out and thinking about the future. We get interested to education and business, as some of us are in it, including me who have started a business. You might take your time too much on TV/news/social media or too much into the theory of Aquarians.

One thing I and my Aqua friends have something in common with rebellion, we rebel to the control of people around who try to keep us in the cage. Why we need to rebel against the system? We're just an ordinary people unless we are somewhere in the top who get most attention and there's a certain kind of importance. That's called "power". When power is there, ego is high. The same kind of thing other sign do according to their preferences and those certain kind of importance.

Outter planet doesn't want to break down, but it gives you EXTRA power to the planet it touch. The key to the outter planet is self control.

If you compare Aquarius sun vs Sun/Uranus (especially hard aspect), I won't completely agree if someone says it is the same as an Aquarius, it is not, it is similar yet different. Sun/Uranus will be the one who embody the extremist of Uranian.

Same with Scorpio sun vs Sun/Pluto (especially hard aspect), me having sun/pluto will disagree if someone say I'm the same as Scorpion. It is not. Sun/Pluto will be the one who embody the extremist of Pluto.

posted January 05, 2023 05:41 PM            

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So the conclusion is, if you want to complain about Aquarius, make sure put the detail who is the person in your life, so we know and we won't try to stop you complaining about the person because Aquarius is unique on its own term.

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Haha trust me some Aquarians can have some major similarities and one of those are their tendency to have an impersonal approach to things and quirkiness. No sign is perfect and all signs have their good and bad traits and some have experienced their good side and some have experienced their bad side and we are all here to share our experiences, observations and opinions. And in MY opinion Aquarians have not been that intuitive about people and can be very ‘’casual’’ with their relationships. You have your experiences, i have mine and the OP has theirs. Have a good day

posted January 05, 2023 10:11 PM            

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Originally posted by emniwa:
aquariuses are some of the most fiercely loyal people i've ever met. i'm an aries and they're the only other sign i'd put on par with the loyalty of an aries

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posted January 06, 2023 03:16 PM            

Maybe I come across as unemotional because I try to not create a scene when I am feeling strongly about things but believe it or not I can be very emotionally sensitive. I remember I would cry at funerals over people I never really knew very well just because I absorbed the emotions in the atmosphere at that time. I have a hard time discerning between what feelings are my own and which ones are others that I am picking up on.