posted December 25, 2022 04:33 PM            

I have also read that since the 1990s there has been a trend of people having less sex whether they are in a relationship or not and regardless of age, people are just having less sex.

Pluto has been in cappy for over a decade.

With PLUTO ruling sex that binds what role has pluto played in dating/relationship/sex trends while it has been in capricorn IYO? and what role will it play when it travels through aquarius IYO?

During the sexual revolution in the 60s Pluto was traveling through virgo but I think transit URANUS in LEO had more to do with it. Although pluto entering virgo could explain the radical transformation around this expectation of people needing to wait until they get married to have sex along with uranus in leo transit, those two combined to rebel against that norm.

It seems that sex being on a decline may have coincided with pluto entering saggy and capricorn, it seems that while pluto was traveling through virgo, libra and scorpio that was not the case.

I could see how pluto in libra and scorpio values more sex that is meaningful within the context of a relationship, sex that binds and pluto in saggy may care less about that and is more interested in experiences, being in a relationship is not as important in the context of sex and sex is less important overall valuing more a sense of freedom over committed relationships, pluto in capricorn may be more concerned with security obtained through career aspirations and again sex takes more of a back burner, pluto in cappy may also be more detached about sex, it may be more transactional/casual.

What does pluto in aquarius bring in the context of sex/dating/relationship trends? I mean community and friendship will be more of the focus perhaps so again a trend of relationships loosely defined may continue to increase, people valuing more freedom and autonomy and friendship over committed relationships.

This makes me wonder if is better to go with the flow of what is trending, life may be easier if you do.

There is also a chance that pluto entering aquarius will rebel against the hook up culture we have fallen into.

Did pluto in virgo normalize sex before marriage? Did pluto in libra normalize divorce?

"How did hookup culture begin?
Hookups began to become more frequent in the 1920s, with the upsurge of automobiles and novel entertainment, such as movie theaters. Instead of courting at home under a parent's watchful eye, young adults left the home and were able to explore their sexuality more freely."

^^this would mean that it started during pluto in cancer and we are now ending pluto in cappy. I wonder when pluto comes back to cancer and its then comes to a full circle what that would bring.

"The Logic of Hookup Culture

Students believe, or believe that their peers believe, that virginity is passé and monogamy prudish; that college is a time to go wild and have fun; that separating sex from emotions is sexually liberating; and that they're too young and career-focused for commitment."

^^That sounds very pluto in saggy and cappy (school is more important, career is more important so keep things casual and remove emotion out of sex).

IDK the feeling I get from Pluto entering Aquarius is more of a best friend and lovers arrangement, increased commitment in a sense but also in the context of a more monogomish arrangement, partners giving each other more freedom but still committed, an increased trend around that but sex becoming less transactional and more meaningful or people may rebel against hook up culture and have less sex and become more abstinent and focus more on community and friendship. Well we will get a taste of PLUTO in AQUARIUS from March 2023 to June 2023 before it enters fully into aquarius in 2024 so notice the energy then and see how it feels to you.

posted January 04, 2023 10:35 PM            

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Originally posted by edenhardwicke:
This is really interesting, I agree with you on it too. I have already been seeing inklings recently of people beginning to reject hookup culture, realizing that it is not psychologically or spiritually healthy/fulfilling.

While Aquarius is seen as detached, wanting freedom, etc. since this is Pluto we're talking about, I can see it indicating a transformation of societal tendencies to be too detached and not form deep enough committed bonds with people. It could serve as a time period where people start forming and deepening community and family bonds, in addition to forming more committed lifelong romantic partnerships. Purging the more maladaptive Aquarius tendencies in our societies, and deepening the adaptive ones.

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posted January 04, 2023 10:51 PM            

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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/30/ex-everything-complete-me-broke-up

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2022 did feel like the year of big break ups but I did have tr saturn opposing my venus in the 8th while tr uranus was trining my DC ruler and my personal year was 9 so a year to end relationships, not a great year to start one, lots of barriers to relationships starting.

On a collective level I blame uranus square saturn for it being the year of big break ups. It feels since covid lots of relationships started to end but I feel uranus square saturn is astrologically what has been on and off consistently in the works.

Similarly like the article points out my break up with my ex husband has been amicable after all and we are friends, it was just very clear that what we had ran its course to me.

Ohhh I hope 2023 is less intense in this department though. Saturn square Uranus is breaking up finally now.

posted January 05, 2023 07:45 PM            

Pluto in Virgo did away with women's virginity as a valuable item.

Pluto in Libra brought about the "no fault" divorce. Totally devastated the original concept of marriage as till-death-do-us-part.

Pluto in Scorpio taught us that sex can kill, with the AIDS crisis.

Pluto in Sagg... "i love big butts and I cannot lie!" Shot fired! LOL Sir Mix a Lot's lusty anthem came out when Pluto was in the early degrees of Sagg. Sagg rules the hind parts. Need I say more? That was the beginning of the end of the cult of flat butts as the perfect assets of a feminine figure...

Pluto in Capp gave us the concept of "leveling up". It also highlighted imbalance of power structure in certain relationships, with the MeToo movement, the Epstein scandals of children and the sexual exploitation of minors.

It is always easier to look back and see how Pluto changed the landscape of a sign.

Moving forward is more difficult. My speculations: -

Pluto in Aqua: Fascination with the unusual, the odd, and with sexual minorities. Aqua being a detached sign who notoriously has difficulty with emotions, relationships are going to be more remote, colder. Kissing through masks. Sex through facetime, or any augmented reality, virtual reality sex, online friendships as opposed to real life friendship. I don't think Pluto in Aqua will reinforce families. On the contrary. Family is a cancerian concept. Pluto is Aqua will not be a warm blanket. Be prepared to see more mental illnesses in the general population...

Relationships as virtue signaling: Look how cool and progressive I am, I am dating so and so.

posted January 06, 2023 12:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
I feel that once Pluto goes through a sign, its effects are long lasting, or at least lifetime lasting for the generations that experienced the transit.

Pluto in Virgo did away with women's virginity as a valuable item.

Pluto in Libra brought about the "no fault" divorce. Totally devastated the original concept of marriage as till-death-do-us-part.

Pluto in Scorpio taught us that sex can kill, with the AIDS crisis.

Pluto in Sagg... "i love big butts and I cannot lie!" Shot fired! LOL Sir Mix a Lot's lusty anthem came out when Pluto was in the early degrees of Sagg. Sagg rules the hind parts. Need I say more? That was the beginning of the end of the cult of flat butts as the perfect assets of a feminine figure...

Pluto in Capp gave us the concept of "leveling up". It also highlighted imbalance of power structure in certain relationships, with the MeToo movement, the Epstein scandals of children and the sexual exploitation of minors.

It is always easier to look back and see how Pluto changed the landscape of a sign.

Moving forward is more difficult. My speculations: -

Pluto in Aqua: Fascination with the unusual, the odd, and with sexual minorities. Aqua being a detached sign who notoriously has difficulty with emotions, relationships are going to be more remote, colder. Kissing through masks. Sex through facetime, or any augmented reality, virtual reality sex, online friendships as opposed to real life friendship. I don't think Pluto in Aqua will reinforce families. On the contrary. Family is a cancerian concept. Pluto is Aqua will not be a warm blanket. Be prepared to see more mental illnesses in the general population...

Relationships as virtue signaling: Look how cool and progressive I am, I am dating so and so.

All those things will be highlighted, until Pluto takes them down because PLuto always takes something away to do its work, as it is the planet of death and rebirth.

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Always looove your input and perspective on things.

Love your pluto in saggy highlight LOL. Is that why I am butt girl? the last guy I was dating had the most beautiful ass I have ever seen in my life so rare to come across an ass like that in a man, women usually are the ones with the nice butts and I identify as straight but I still enjoy looking at them. Bless his butt. Its a shame he has an avoidant dismissive attachment style and is deeply depressed, broken and stuck but he had the butt of a God. I will miss his butt. Ahhhhh God dam* it!!!!! He had venus in virgo conjunct mars in virgo though but square jupiter conjunct uranus in SAGGY, maybe that is why.

As for your prognosis on pluto in aquarius, I am not a big fan and god help us, I hope you are wrong We don't need for sex to become more detached! OH GOD, virtual sex? How freaking borinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng, I will die, nah I like to feel things that is what makes sex awesome, the skin to skin, the sensations, the heart racing, the unexpected this and that. Please Please Please, we don't need sex to go virtual, shoot me now LOL Noooooooooooooooooo

posted January 07, 2023 05:27 AM            

Domestic violence is still a thing, but women were finally talking about it, when I was a kid. I dealt with it myself, but not from a partner. I've tried to avoid it, but that isn't something you can always do. It can come out of nowhere, or be hidden for a while. And, still, when the subject comes up, we can't just deal with it. We can't hear that something needs to be done. Instead, it's "Women can be abusive too!" Or, "More men die from violence, than women." So, nothing should be done? Why can't we deal with both? Then, of course, we get, "Women wanted equality" like we deserve to get beaten up. That's a really lazy and abusive, misogynistic outlook.

posted January 07, 2023 08:46 PM            

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Always looove your input and perspective on things.

Love your pluto in saggy highlight LOL. Is that why I am butt girl? the last guy I was dating had the most beautiful ass I have ever seen in my life so rare to come across an ass like that in a man, women usually are the ones with the nice butts and I identify as straight but I still enjoy looking at them. Bless his butt. Its a shame he has an avoidant dismissive attachment style and is deeply depressed, broken and stuck but he had the butt of a God. I will miss his butt. Ahhhhh God dam* it!!!!! He had venus in virgo conjunct mars in virgo though but square jupiter conjunct uranus in SAGGY, maybe that is why.

As for your prognosis on pluto in aquarius, I am not a big fan and god help us, I hope you are wrong We don't need for sex to become more detached! OH GOD, virtual sex? How freaking borinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng, I will die, nah I like to feel things that is what makes sex awesome, the skin to skin, the sensations, the heart racing, the unexpected this and that. Please Please Please, we don't need sex to go virtual, shoot me now LOL Noooooooooooooooooo

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That was hilarious!

Yes, I can see your Sagg nature coming through!

posted February 01, 2023 04:40 PM            

I am reflecting again on PLUTO entering Aquarius....

We have become very disconnected and isolated as a society with the advancement of technology and mental health issues have gone up because of it.

I wonder if Pluto in aquarius will address this social issue we have been having for quite some time as I have been noticing more and more people bringing up the need to build up community.

Even today I was on a coffee date and we discussed this a bit and I could feel myself wanting to put our brains together to try to do something about addressing this problem at a community level but I think that discussion will be had at a later date.

Its interesting bc I think we are having a bit of a crisis with dating but perhaps the community issue needs to addressed first and then that will also transform in a positive way the dating issues/trends that are not serving us.

posted February 14, 2023 07:29 PM            

I continue to reflect on this...

I am noticing personally that is becoming more the norm to not jump into relationships and develop a friendship first perhaps even with multiple interests and then be friends for a while before taking that step to commit. I don't think this is bad actually, I am seeing that it gives people time to really get to know each other before labeling/committing more deeply so it will allow us to enter relationships when we are truly ready and to enter them in a more mindful way not based on a rush or fantasy.