posted January 23, 2023 04:49 AM            

These two aspects interacting with the Moon (what makes a person feel emotionally secure) would result in someone who unconsciously looks for/ feels comfortable with spaces/ experiences that don't have rules/ borders/definitions or boundaries attached.

They may be comfortable working in a company where the schedule is "flexible". They may like being in a relationship where things are pretty "open ended" i.e. long distance,not seeing each other often, polygamy, "throuples" or living separately from spouse even when married etc. They may even date someone who is culturally different so that there is some "distance" between them.

Other ways it can manifest is an avoidance of commitments, being late or forgetting about appointments, free-lancing or contractual work would appeal (where the native is free to pursue other interests), a position where there is travelling and isn't always office bound or sedentary, dressing in a manner that is not conventional whether contextually to the societal era or conforming to the trends of the times etc.

There is an emphasis here on personal freedom . So there could also be an attaction to spirituality that emphasizes freedom to be whatever you want to be .

Spirituality that doesn't want strict "conformance" or orthodox alignment to the point of "punishment for not doing things a certain way"etc.

posted January 23, 2023 11:07 PM            

So a person who has the Moon in major aspect to Uranus and Neptune, whether male or female, may likely identify with this archetype and their lives will in some significant way embody its qualities. They can be very creative and inspired in that the puer is attuned to the new or the future. They tend to be idealistic and imaginative. They like to fly high and be unfettered. In Greek myth, Icarus is a typical puer figure. He longs to fly to the Sun and so his father makes him a set of wings for his journey. But as he comes close to the dazzling orb, his wings melt and he falls into the sea.

So, there's the theme of the longing for transcendence and enlightenment, symbolized by the flight to the Sun. The meaning of an aborted quest, however, points to the Achilles heel of the puer. A resistance to coming to terms with being a mortal on the earth plane, with the here and now, and to accept limitation, as the puer is oriented toward the eternal and infinite.

The puer is coupled with the archetypal old man and also the Great Mother. Here, we have the linkage with the Great Mother archetype, given the opposition of these planets with the Moon. So there can be resistance to the realm of the Mother (the Moon in astrology), and all that She represents, reality, limitation, feeling and the body. There can be health problems, such as digestive disorders, or problems with the feet, as an example.

I once met a guy who illustrates the puer story very well. He told me he once went skydiving. He landed wrong and broke both his ankles. The man who fell to earth literally.

Antoine de St. Exupery, the author of The Little Prince, and pilot was only happy when he was flying.

Marie Louise von-Franz, a close associate of Carl Jung, wrote a book about the psychology of the Puer, which has great insights for the astrologer into the planets Uranus and Neptune, and the mutable cross, particularly the signs Gemini, as well as Virgo, as the female version or puella.

posted February 02, 2023 02:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

These two aspects interacting with the Moon (what makes a person feel emotionally secure) would result in someone who unconsciously looks for/ feels comfortable with spaces/ experiences that don't have rules/ borders/definitions or boundaries attached.

They may be comfortable working in a company where the schedule is "flexible". They may like being in a relationship where things are pretty "open ended" i.e. long distance,not seeing each other often, polygamy, "throuples" or living separately from spouse even when married etc. They may even date someone who is culturally different so that there is some "distance" between them.

Other ways it can manifest is an avoidance of commitments, being late or forgetting about appointments, free-lancing or contractual work would appeal (where the native is free to pursue other interests), a position where there is travelling and isn't always office bound or sedentary, dressing in a manner that is not conventional whether contextually to the societal era or conforming to the trends of the times etc.

There is an emphasis here on personal freedom . So there could also be an attaction to spirituality that emphasizes freedom to be whatever you want to be .

Spirituality that doesn't want strict "conformance" or orthodox alignment to the point of "punishment for not doing things a certain way"etc.

They are drawn to liberal philosophies or ones that (at their core) have personal freedom mottos or "live and let live" mantras attached to them.

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Everything you said is pretty spot-on. This is about a guy I know, He was free-lancing earlier, and now he works as a full-time volunteer at a spiritual organization, as a software developer since 4-5 years. Not earning, but pretty much obsessed with the work he does, and good at it. (also has a venus-pluto conjunction in the 6th). If he did the same work as a paid employee elsewhere, he'd earn some real good money. (also it's his 2nd house moon oppose Nept-Ura in 8th)

posted February 02, 2023 02:15 AM            

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Originally posted by problematique:
but i do have like.. an on/off switch when it comes to dealing with MOST things (not saying all).
i can sort of … distance from myself and certain situations and just observe it from afar. if i’m upset about something, i can be like “stop being upset”, then i get up and go on with my day. (this could be uranus/moon)

I get this. You're lucky that you can detach so easily! It's a real positive.

i have my doubts that i used to be easily manipulated and used (which can be neptune/moon) and my boundaries were low. however, i used people as well. i think i used to be pretty naive. alcohol abuse might be more common than is usually expected in a regular person. going through life often thinking nothing really truly matters. very changeable behavior.

Yeah, I see these traits in him too..

ofc, this is all depending on the signs and the rest of the chart.

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posted February 02, 2023 02:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Dhyana:
Uranus and Neptune have features that are linked with the puer archetype or eternal youth. In Western culture we're familiar with this archetype as Peter Pan. The puer also represents the spiritual dimension of life and the drive for transcendence.

So a person who has the Moon in major aspect to Uranus and Neptune, whether male or female, may likely identify with this archetype and their lives will in some significant way embody its qualities. They can be very creative and inspired in that the puer is attuned to the new or the future. They tend to be idealistic and imaginative. They like to fly high and be unfettered. In Greek myth, Icarus is a typical puer figure. He longs to fly to the Sun and so his father makes him a set of wings for his journey. But as he comes close to the dazzling orb, his wings melt and he falls into the sea.

So, there's the theme of the longing for transcendence and enlightenment, symbolized by the flight to the Sun. The meaning of an aborted quest, however, points to the Achilles heel of the puer. A resistance to coming to terms with being a mortal on the earth plane, with the here and now, and to accept limitation, as the puer is oriented toward the eternal and infinite.

The puer is coupled with the archetypal old man and also the Great Mother. Here, we have the linkage with the Great Mother archetype, given the opposition of these planets with the Moon. So there can be resistance to the realm of the Mother (the Moon in astrology), and all that She represents, reality, limitation, feeling and the body. There can be health problems, such as digestive disorders, or problems with the feet, as an example.

I once met a guy who illustrates the puer story very well. He told me he once went skydiving. He landed wrong and broke both his ankles. The man who fell to earth literally.

Antoine de St. Exupery, the author of The Little Prince, and pilot was only happy when he was flying.

Marie Louise von-Franz, a close associate of Carl Jung, wrote a book about the psychology of the Puer, which has great insights for the astrologer into the planets Uranus and Neptune, and the mutable cross, particularly the signs Gemini, as well as Virgo, as the female version or puella.

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posted February 02, 2023 06:58 AM            

I know it, am aware of it, live it.. every day and cannot escape it. It was my fate and my destiny.

I am the same person now as when I was born. It's like time has stopped for me. Like I am in the world but not of it.

It's not of my will (although it is), I channel the soul of which is not bound by time.

I look 20 years younger than I am.

posted February 02, 2023 04:37 PM            

With most it means varying degrees of difficulty to ascertain feelings, moods, and needs. Moon-Neptune in hard aspect indicates a person whose emotions can feel nebulous or unresolved, who has trouble knowing what they really need (or feel). Their feelings are significant, but more effort applied to verbalizing, naming, and expressing them could help.

Moon-Uranus in this shows someone who is a chain-breaker in their family, with odd or unusual attachments. Moods, habits, etc tend to be out of sync with those around, so they may be non-participants or non-joiners.

Moon opposite/contra-parallel both indicates someone who in their soul history is seeking transcendent experiences on a deep personal level, connections to more than the conventional, familiar family life, etc. But contained within the opposition dynamic is the implication that they don't yet feel they are there (or secure in it).

This type of aspect is common with people who have a nebulous early life and disrupted family connections.

Persons who were abandoned, put into foster care, and adopted will often intentionally seek more stability within themselves and avoid many of the pitfalls we assume to be associated with Moon opp. Uranus-Neptune. But others will find themselves playing this dynamic out in a more noticeable way as adults, impulses, unreliability, misunderstandings with loved ones that tend to create rifts.

It should not be seen as all bad, but as the soul's effort at extending the family type of intimacy circle to others in a more inclusive way. So some of these people can be real suckers for a sob story. They may want to help people and bring them in, even if those sufferers aren't willing to help themselves. Yet other times when the Uranus dynamic kicks in they may detach.

It is an alternating dynamic in which special transcendent intimacies are sought, followed by detachment or reversal -- until a sense of internal balance is achieved in which the person is able to meld their personal needs and ideals in an agreeable, balanced, healthy way.

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posted February 02, 2023 05:43 PM            

It's a sad story for many reasons for sure..

Relevant too, is the differences between the major aspects. Opposition is different to conjunct.

posted February 05, 2023 09:33 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Yep, I have Moon conjunct Uranus and I am definitely a Peter Pan. Uranus is all over my chart.

I know it, am aware of it, live it.. every day and cannot escape it. It was my fate and my destiny.

I am the same person now as when I was born. It's like time has stopped for me. Like I am in the world but not of it.

It's not of my will (although it is), I channel the soul of which is not bound by time.

I look 20 years younger than I am.

I am female so really I am Tinkerbell

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Hahaha I envy you guys !! I have an Aqua DSC so... I guess

posted February 05, 2023 09:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
It depends on the person and their early life.

With most it means varying degrees of difficulty to ascertain feelings, moods, and needs. Moon-Neptune in hard aspect indicates a person whose emotions can feel nebulous or unresolved, who has trouble knowing what they really need (or feel). Their feelings are significant, but more effort applied to verbalizing, naming, and expressing them could help.

Moon-Uranus in this shows someone who is a chain-breaker in their family, with odd or unusual attachments. Moods, habits, etc tend to be out of sync with those around, so they may be non-participants or non-joiners.

Moon opposite/contra-parallel both indicates someone who in their soul history is seeking transcendent experiences on a deep personal level, connections to more than the conventional, familiar family life, etc. But contained within the opposition dynamic is the implication that they don't yet feel they are there (or secure in it).

This type of aspect is common with people who have a nebulous early life and disrupted family connections.

Persons who were abandoned, put into foster care, and adopted will often intentionally seek more stability within themselves and avoid many of the pitfalls we assume to be associated with Moon opp. Uranus-Neptune. But others will find themselves playing this dynamic out in a more noticeable way as adults, impulses, unreliability, misunderstandings with loved ones that tend to create rifts.

It should not be seen as all bad, but as the soul's effort at extending the family type of intimacy circle to others in a more inclusive way. So some of these people can be real suckers for a sob story. They may want to help people and bring them in, even if those sufferers aren't willing to help themselves. Yet other times when the Uranus dynamic kicks in they may detach.

It is an alternating dynamic in which special transcendent intimacies are sought, followed by detachment or reversal -- until a sense of internal balance is achieved in which the person is able to meld their personal needs and ideals in an agreeable, balanced, healthy way.

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