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Topic: Unaspected planets - what is technically considered "unaspected"?
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OrbitalFire
Knowflake Posts: 57
From: Sydney. Australia
Registered: Dec 2021
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posted January 25, 2023 07:56 AM
  
So I read there are disagreements on what is considered an unaspected planet.Some say it's when there are no major aspects or declinations to other plantets, and some say minor aspects and aspects to angles should not be ignored. In my case as an example, my Saturn makes no major aspects to any planet. No aspects to angles. Not a single declination within a 2 degree orb. It does make a quincunx to Jupiter at 1'04 degrees applying. Other than that, nothing. Therefore, it's technically not unaspected is it? Should an unaspected planet mean exactly that? Unaspected in every sense for it to be considered lonesome?
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PlutoWasHere
Knowflake Posts: 808
From: The Nether World
Registered: Mar 2021
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posted January 25, 2023 09:30 AM
I always try to look at certain themes in the birth chart, and then try to check with myself if I actually identify with that. Astrology is a tool to get to know yourself better and can help with personal growth. So you need to connect with that part of your birth chart and if you don’t, don’t put too much energy in it. If it’s important for your personal growth it will reveal itself at the time it’s supposed to. https://www.astro.com/astrowiki/en/Unaspected_Planet This link explains unaspected planets and uses Saturn as an example. Does this resonate with you in any way? Even if a planet makes no aspects/parallels check themes through rulership. Maybe there’s a mutual reception or maybe one of the big 3 is ruled by Saturn. Is Saturn in an angular house or maybe aspecting the nodes or vertex? IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
Knowflake Posts: 5005
From: Portland, OR - USA
Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 28, 2023 01:04 AM
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... my Saturn makes no major aspects to any planet. No aspects to angles. Not a single declination within a 2 degree orb. It does make a quincunx to Jupiter at 1'04 degrees applying. Other than that, nothing. Therefore, it's technically not unaspected is it?
Right. I agree. quote:
Should an unaspected planet mean exactly that? Unaspected in every sense for it to be considered lonesome?
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Yes, it should, but don't expect astrologers to be aligned collectively with reality. ------------------
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PlutoWasHere
Knowflake Posts: 808
From: The Nether World
Registered: Mar 2021
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posted January 31, 2023 04:00 AM
Kannon’s answer makes me feel like I should add a bit to my previous answer. 😁I agree with Kannon that it technically isn’t unaspected but in my opinion it doesn’t mean that you have to disregard all the information that is used to explain unaspected planets. It gives you insight in where you might struggle in expressing certain parts of your personality. That’s why I always try to look at the rest of the chart to see if this is a theme. My Taurus Sun is only aspected by a conjunction with Jupiter, but the orb is 8 degrees, both are in the 8th house and my Jupiter is inconjunct my Libra Ascendant. Even though my Sun isn’t technically unaspected (Sun conjunctions have an orb up to 10 degrees), I still struggle with the expression. I recognize the all or nothing effect associated with an unaspected Sun. It doesn’t help that my Pluto is conjunct my Ascendant either, I can easily be perceived as being too forceful. If the only aspect of your Saturn is a quincunx/inconjunct to Jupiter, a minor aspect that is awkward in its expression and usually not something that’s a prominent feature in someone’s personality (unless there’s an aspect pattern involved), I would most definitely still feel that Saturn stands out somewhat. And that would make me look for patterns in the chart that might reinforce this. IP: Logged |
OrbitalFire
Knowflake Posts: 57
From: Sydney. Australia
Registered: Dec 2021
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posted February 01, 2023 06:03 AM
Thank you both!Well, despite my Saturn's lack of aspects, my chart is heavy Saturn influence anyway.
I have Sun, Merc and Saturn in Aqua 11H
And a Venus-Mars-Neptune-Uranus-NN conjunction in Capricorn 10H..
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Kannon McAfee
Knowflake Posts: 5005
From: Portland, OR - USA
Registered: Oct 2011
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posted February 01, 2023 03:45 PM
I have thrown out the entire concept of 'unaspected' because it results from an incomplete understanding in western astrology of planet strength. A planet does not actually have to have any 'major' aspects to have significant strength in a person's natal chart. Having no 'major' aspects does not make it weak (or strong). There are at least half a dozen considerations that go into determining planet strength and this is not one of them.Not only that, but there are entirely contrary opinions as to the interpretation of this 'unaspected' planet. Some say it is stronger, or that the native somehow makes it stronger through a kind of over-compensation. Others say it is weaker. Well, that means western astrology has not worked it out yet, doesn't it. The concept is under-developed, if it needs to exist at all. There are other explanations deeper in the birth chart for why someone can relate to interpretations for 'unaspected' planets. Western astrology has long lost its connection to those deeper explanations in astrology's Asian origins. There are a number of misconceptions, under-cooked notions, or weird ideas in western pop astrology. This is just one of them. ------------------
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PlutoWasHere
Knowflake Posts: 808
From: The Nether World
Registered: Mar 2021
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posted February 01, 2023 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by OrbitalFire:
Thank you both!Well, despite my Saturn's lack of aspects, my chart is heavy Saturn influence anyway.
I have Sun, Merc and Saturn in Aqua 11H
And a Venus-Mars-Neptune-Uranus-NN conjunction in Capricorn 10H..
Kinda ironic lol
Wow, there is definitely a Saturnian theme in your chart. Did you ever have someone read your chart?
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Kannon McAfee
Knowflake Posts: 5005
From: Portland, OR - USA
Registered: Oct 2011
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posted February 02, 2023 04:08 PM
A point I failed to make here in my case against how this 'unaspected' notion is used ...It is based on the assumption that every planet in every person's birth chart should have an aspect ('major' or otherwise). Says who? Why? Acceptance and curiosity I think are the best qualities to keep in performing astrology. Building up too many presumptive notions, or aphorisms beyond a really good understanding of the planets is where things go off course. I learned those things, but have had to un-learn many of them. ------------------
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OrbitalFire
Knowflake Posts: 57
From: Sydney. Australia
Registered: Dec 2021
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posted February 03, 2023 07:12 AM
@plutowashere, I have had others kinda glance at my chart and make general comments but never a had a reading. The Aqua and Cap stelliums is usually the first thing that jumps out at people when they see my chart, so the generalisation that im going to be marked by success and my ambitions in career will be the focus of my life is what I usually hear alot. I would be curious to have a proper reading one day.@Kannon, I admire your ability to delineate- this is something I struggle with. I try to view astrology as a guide and not law. I am a student of modern astrology, whereas my mother was taught traditional astrology, which I was definitely influenced by. Like you I have had to unlearn some things and make my own understanding of it. It's not as black and white as some people make it out to be IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 18, 2023 03:25 PM
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